MOST REPUBLICANS WOULDN'T SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT EVEN IF MUELLER PROVES HE ACCEPTED RUSS

[EricMaundry]

Source: Newsweek

Most Republicans wouldn't support impeaching President Donald Trump, even if special counsel Robert Mueller found that the billionaire worked with Russia to get elected president in 2016, a new poll released this week found.

A survey from YouGov/The Economist asked respondents if they would "support or oppose Congress beginning the impeachment process if Special Counsel Robert Mueller found" a number of different things, among them that "Donald Trump accepted Russian assistance during the 2016 presidential campaign." That would effectively amount to the collusion allegations that Trump has repeatedly swatted away as untrue.

But most Republicans would not want the president to be impeached, even if Trump did accept Russia's help. Sixty-three percent of GOP respondents said they opposed impeachment in that situation, while just 18 percent supported it and 19 percent weren't sure.

And most of the GOP also wouldn't want Trump to be impeached if Mueller found he obstructed justice. Sixty-two percent of Republicans said they opposed impeachment in that case, while 18 percent supported it and 20 percent were not sure.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-support-donald-trump-impeachment-russian-assistance-mueller-1355656

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Full article title: MOST REPUBLICANS WOULDN'T SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT EVEN IF MUELLER PROVES HE ACCEPTED RUSSIAN ASSISTANCE OR OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE, POLL SHOWS

The GOP is now officially a pro-Russian 5th column.

[RockRaven]

1. Which underlines we shouldn't give a s--t what Repukes think about anything

They are not formulating opinions in good faith based on logic, reason, evidence, and moral or philosophical principles.

[cstanleytech]

4. Bingo!!! There just comes a time when you have to ignore such people and do what needs to be

done to get the job done.

[lagomorph777]

50. +1 If you're a Russiapublican, go fuck yourself. You are not worthy of my concern.

(Not addressed to anybody here; just a rhetorical point).

[cstanleytech]

2. Thats because most Repugnants have honestly never cared about the Constitution nor

the rule of law except to wave it around claiming that they do during an election.

[democratisphere]

29. redumbliCONS support the "Rule of Outlaws".

[DBoon]

51. I bet they actually admire Putin

and that most Republicans would enjoy living in a nation where opponents were poisoned or "fall out of windows" with disgusting regularity

[cstanleytech]

57. Or have "accidents" falling down stairs like Roger Ailes?

[Haggis for Breakfast]

3. Maybe he really could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue.

I'm beginning the think that anything short of impaling babies on pikes in front of the WH . . . .

[cstanleytech]

6. He could have sex and then pay a 16 year old to abort a baby and they would still support him.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

8. I dunno.

I read that the ONE thing that would make the RW christianistas flee would be if he suddenly embraced abortion and pushed to relax the laws. If you remember he was pro-choice BEFORE he ran for the WH. Then, he said that MDs and women who sought termination "should be punished" and then his poll numbers shot up because the religious freaks lost their minds.

[cstanleytech]

14. If they do not object to him divorcing and marrying multiple women and having sex with other

women while he own wife is pregnant with their child then I am sure they would find a way around him paying for a 16 year old to abort a child he impregnated her with.

[MyOwnPeace]

41. I'm afraid......

that you are probably quite correct about that.
Sad, isn't it?
Makes you wonder what Sunday School class they skipped....................(if not all of them!)

[steve2470]

5. if this is an accurate poll, this is beyond horrible

Their agenda no matter what. The authoritarian-lover party, particularly of Russia.

[yaesu]

7. The Nixon republicans were the same way, it just took the JD to threaten indictment

to change their minds but tRump would never resign to keep from being impeached, it would just be another feather in his reality TV world MAGA cap.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

32. Now that the DOJ won't indict a sitting president, there's no threat from Mueller.

Barr's going to deep six Mueller's report, Kavanaugh is going to protect him from anything that reaches the SCOTUS. Moscow Mitch won't let anything on the floor that Fat Donnie disapproves of. The Russians haven't stopped messing with our election system in favor of Trump and against the Democrats.

I will give Fat Donnie this -- he's a survivor. He has put into place layer upon layer of protection. He really is like a mob boss. I'm starting to agree with Cohen when he says that even if he loses in 2020, Trump is not moving out of the WH willingly. He probably figures that if he can hang on to the presidency until January 2025, even if he's indicted he has enough money -- and judges in his pocket -- to drag it out until he dies.

Manafort proved that the rules of justice are different if you are white and rich. He's been playing by Trump's playbook, and I imagine he's looking at a pardon after next week's sentencing. Trump keeps saying how unfairly Manafort's been treated, and that's what he has said about every person he has pardoned so far.

[burrowowl]

9. Really

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Go back to Nixon's record breaking re-election and support, even while being investigated...

and then we heard about the tapes. And Nixon was gone.

Republican support evaporated, and we didn't even have to impeach him-- the threat of impeachment sent him packing.

Current polls are meaningless. I don't know where the tipping point is, but we are so far along that something is bound to hit the public and doom Trump.

Welcome President Pence, who, while bad enough, will still be relief from the chaos of Trump. And it's tough see him being re-elected in 2020.

[Doodley]

12. It would take his children being locked up. Then Trump would become

so demented that he would totally lose the plot.

[TreasonousBastard]

16. Trump's already lost it-- the point is to convince the faithful. But...

I'd love to see that brood behind bars just for GP.

[tableturner]

13. What makes you think that Pence won't be implicated, also?

[TreasonousBastard]

17. So what? The point is to clean out the source of the cancer...

Pence is merely temporary relief, not a cure. And, as bad as he might be, he can't reach the depths of Trump.

Besides, in the extremely unlikely event he goes, we get President Pelosi.

How many books would be written about that?

[C Moon]

23. True. Right now they are being told it's a Democratic Party attempt at taking him down.

When the truth comes to light, many will change their minds.

[Doodley]

11. Most Republicans think Russia and Trump colluding is better than Hillary Clinton.

They hate her because she is a formidable woman and a Democrat. As long as Republicans win, it doesn't matter what cheating is involved.

[Ron Fleishman]

15. Moral Values are Completely Gone

Much has happened since the Nixon Days. People still had values in the 70s. Now they've disappeared. Yes Trump could kill somebody on 5th Avenue, he could nuke the whole East Coast and the Republicans would still back him. 20 women have accused him of Rape. No Investigations no nothing. He IS above the law. There's one and only one way we can take back America. STOP VOTING FOR POLITICIANS BACKED BY CORPORATE LOBBYISTS!
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/04/how-corporate-lobbyists-conquered-american-democracy/390822/

[area51]

18. Welcome to DU.

[BigmanPigman]

19. This is when it is wise to expect and be prepared for the worst outcome

yet hope for the best. I am a realist.

I knew tRump would win and said so from the moment he was on that Golden Escalator. I knew Manafort would get a light sentence based on that judge's personality and his past experiences with Manafort.

We should all be ready for any outcome since we are living in abnormal times.

[hay rick]

20. Confirming the obvious. nt

[OnDoutside]

21. That's great news, impeachment wouldn't help Democrats. Trump needs to be beaten

in 2020, and he'll take the GOP with him.

[crazytown]

22. TAPES

The missing ingredient is tapes. The GOPers didn’t turn on Nixon till they heard the tapes.

[C Moon]

24. +1

[SunSeeker]

26. That was a different GOP, pre-Fox. nt

[SunSeeker]

25. They voted for him to bash people of color.

As long as he's doing that, they don't give a shit what crimes he's committed or is committing.

[airmid]

27. Trump cultists don't care. It's not just about about keeping the orange

menace in office. It's also about "owning the libs". It's sick and vile but many would happily sit back and allow any policy or law as long as that objective were fulfilled.

[SergeStorms]

28. The only consolation about this...

is that there are fewer of these so-called "republicans" (actually they're the Cult of Trump) every day. All of the "honest" republicans (if such a thing exists) have abandoned, or are currently abandoning the cult. All of these so-called "republicans" are not enough to elect Trump to a second term. Trump would still need millions of independents and disgruntled "democrats" to elect him to a second term. He may have fooled them with his "what have you got to lose" bullshit in 2016, but now they know what they have to lose!

This is not the old republican party responding to this poll. This is the Cult of Trump responding to this poll. Fuck them. They're losers, just like their cult leader, and they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of getting the orange hemorrhoid re-elected by themselves, or even with Russia's influence. If Russia is allowed to hack the vote totals though........all bets are off.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

36. Your point is excellent and important. . . . nt

[videohead5]

30. If Hillary had gotten help

From China or Germany and won they would want her hanged for treason. The Rethugs are now anti-American and traitors period.

[duforsure]

31. Just more examples of how putin

Has done in russia. He and trump are actively corrupting the entire system , with judges and agencies appointments to undermine the system ,and corrupt our government with. They use media to influence people with, and attack others who won't promote their propaganda.

[Chin music]

33. Why do 2/3rds of America give a shit?

Do what we know is right, and let the chips fall where they may. Inaction, or decisions by Ds bc 'the right won't do this or that', isn't working. We aren't 1/2 and 1/2. Ds need to back THEIR constituents desires. Not forgo acting bc the other side won't go along. They enjoy hurting the other side. Their opinion is insignificant. We will never please them so, ignore them and let's go.

[pressbox69]

34. Need any more reasons

to remove these Republican traitors from office ASAP?

[Mike Nelson]

35. There are a lot of wise...

… responses in this thread.

… need 67 Senate votes to convict. Impeach without them & he's stronger. With what we know now, any other person would be impeached and convicted.

… it looks like Trump needs to have a live pay-per-view event where he performs a late-term abortion and has gay sex on camera - maybe, then, Republicans will consider convicting him.

[Fiendish Thingy]

46. Faulty premise

No definitive proof that Trump would be stronger if he survived a trial in the senate. People keep comparing a potential Trump impeachment to Clinton's, when it should be Nixon- Trumps crimes are far worse than Nixon's, and a year of investigations and impeachment hearings leading to the primaries could do a lot of damage, and maybe scare enough Republican senators to supporting removal.

We must push ahead slowly, steadily to make the Unignorable case for Trump's removal, using all of Meuller's evidence, then gathering more via congress. No hand wringing or pearl clutching, just relentless presentation of facts to shift the narrative so that by this time next year, removal will clearly be the right thing to do.

[Oneironaut]

37. Trump is their Fuhrer. There's absolutely nothing he could do to lose their support.

If Trump demanded the 2020 election be canceled, they would whole-heartedly support that as well.

[DBoon]

52. How many Germans still supported Hitler in 1946?

I bet the percentage would be similar

[Lonestarblue]

38. Republicans have anointed themselves as the party of God.

According to the Pew Research Center, over 70% of people in this country are Christians, with just over 25% of that number being evangelicals, who make up most of Trump’s support. The percentage of people who identify as Christian has declined over the years, and Republicans have been clever at exploiting the fear of the US not being a Christian nation, the fear of minorities outnumbering white people, and the resentment of what they perceive as government overreach in extending legal rights to LGBT and allowing abortion. I remember a Republican candidate in 2018 claiming that people should vote for him because his opponent did not believe in God since he was a Democrat.

Many Republican voters have convinced themselves that God is on their side and that keeping Republicans in office is more important than following the rule of law or ethics or normal behavior. Thus, it is okay to lie, cheat, and steal because those actions serve the greater good of forcing everyone else to abide by their religious beliefs. Fortunately, the entire 70% of those who affiliate as Christians does not follow those beliefs, but far too many people do and we ignore what they will do to win at our peril.

[sinkingfeeling]

39. You see, to a Republic, committing a crime isn't a big deal. But consensual

sex between two adults is an impeachable crime.

[DBoon]

53. only if one of them is a Democratic president

IOKIYAR

[Luciferous]

40. So 63% of respondents are traitors...

[world wide wally]

42. We have met the enemy...

[Maxheader]

43. Wingers will destroy this country through their own stupidity.

[Honeycombe8]

44. We HAVE to win Senate seats in 2020. We HAVE TO! nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

45. It was the same with Nixon, until just before his resignation

Rachel did a good segment on this a couple of nights ago.

We shouldn't shy away from impeachment because it's unpopular or we don't have the numbers in the Senate, we should strive to make the Unignorable case for impeachment, using all of Meuller's evidence, as well as evidence gathered by congressional investigations.

[Firestorm49]

47. This is frightening stuff.

Apparently, Republican followers and those who voted for this idiot truly don’t give a shit about our founding principles, the bedrock that made this country the envy of the world. They are blind to the fact that in two short years, we have raced toward Autocracy, and they relish in the fact that dirty water and dirty air is good, that happily giving your money to those who need it the least is sacrosanct,,,,,,blah, blah, blah.

I find it hard to fathom that we have sunk to this point. Putin just passed legislation that makes it a CRIME to criticize him in the open - press, demonstrations, etc. it is basically an open infringement on whatever kind of press or individual freedoms(?) they have in Russia. The Asshole In Chief tells his ill-informed followers to trust that only he will “take care of them”. Really, how stupid can you be?

We’re on a razors edge, and it’s the stupid people that voted for him and the insipid Republican Party who are 100% to blame (and the fricking electoral college). The acrimony between the parties is only getting worse. We continue to find more and more reason to hate each other. I’m not a religious person, but I pray for our country that somehow we can get past this black chapter in our history and back to whatever revised picture of society will be created from the rubble.

[FiveGoodMen]

48. ALL repukes have betrayed this country in a manner that deserves death for treason

Don't bother telling me about the legal niceties.

I'm not saying the law covers their treachery.

Only that they deserve total destruction for it.

[defacto7]

49. Is that 44% and 42% w/o the not sures?

[Faux pas]

54. We should be impeaching

ALL the repugnants.

[LiberalLovinLug]

55. They won't stop until there is goosestepping in the streets

#404_is_fine


This from the party that was so paranoid in the 50's about Russians that they destroyed careers.

[Nevermypresident]

56. 1st I was crushed when trump won. 2nd I was appalled when rethugs in Congress enabled and protected

him, putting our country last.

3rd I am disgusted and bewildered by many of my fellow Americans who have no moral compass and no respect for our Democratic institutions.

It's been a constant punch in the gut and I find myself constantly lowering my expectations over the past 2 years. I'm now at the point where I don't expect justice, I just hope to God he doesn't get re-elected.

[Zorro]

58. Party of Traitors

Been so for decades now.

[Hoyt]

59. That's been obvious for quite awhile.