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ripcord

(5,553 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:11 PM Mar 2019

Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops: reports

Source: Reuters

Two Russian air force planes landed at Venezuela’s main airport on Saturday carrying a Russian defense official and nearly 100 troops, according to media reports, amid strengthening ties between Caracas and Moscow.

A flight-tracking website showed that two planes left from a Russian military airport bound for Caracas on Friday, and another flight-tracking site showed that one plane left Caracas on Sunday.

That comes three months after the two nations held military exercises on Venezuelan soil that President Nicolas Maduro called a sign of strengthening relations, but which Washington criticized as Russian encroachment in the region.

Reporter Javier Mayorca wrote on Twitter on Saturday that the first plane carried Vasily Tonkoshkurov, chief of staff of the ground forces, adding the second was a cargo plane carrying 35 tonnes of material

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/russian-air-force-planes-land-in-venezuela-carrying-troops-report-idUSKCN1R50NB



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Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops: reports (Original Post) ripcord Mar 2019 OP
Right on Cue. Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #1
Watch for a Rosnef Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #2
Wouldn't surprise me. Igel Mar 2019 #9
Just an FYI his bodyguards are Cuban ripcord Mar 2019 #13
I don't know that people in the USA understand what this means Perseus Mar 2019 #17
If that was true, Muller would come out and say so. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #19
"we then have several people HERE on DU working for Putin" Perseus Mar 2019 #20
And i agree with that. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #24
By the way, Muller cannot come out and say so Perseus Mar 2019 #22
He cant say what was in the report, but he COULD say he was stopped from proceeding? oldsoftie Mar 2019 #23
Trump and Pompeo Roy Rolling Mar 2019 #3
Trump and Putin have been planning their war profiteering here Secret mtgs onit2day Mar 2019 #30
What a weekend! PatSeg Mar 2019 #4
Wonder how long until Maduro is killed in a supposed coup and the Russians send in troops cstanleytech Mar 2019 #5
I don't think Maduro will be killed. Russia wants him in charge. Maduro is Putin's guy. Plus they okaawhatever Mar 2019 #6
Thats just it if Maduro is killed the Russians could and probably would try to play the white knight cstanleytech Mar 2019 #7
Oh, I understand what you meant now. And ty for showing me an even darker outcome than I okaawhatever Mar 2019 #10
Maduro is the Castro's guy Perseus Mar 2019 #21
+100 nt okaawhatever Mar 2019 #27
Remember how Putin said he wasn't scared of another missile crisis? roamer65 Mar 2019 #8
So, We Might be Facing a Threat from the South, After All Norman Conkedwest Mar 2019 #11
It's only a matter of time sarisataka Mar 2019 #14
Isn't Bolton pushing for an invasion? Yavin4 Mar 2019 #12
Seems the only actual invasion is this set of Russian troops. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #16
Cuban Missile Crisis II? B Stieg Mar 2019 #15
Now the REAL murdering will begin. MAduro is an amateur compared to the Russians. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #18
Kick ck4829 Mar 2019 #25
This is the start of WWIII nt maryellen99 Mar 2019 #26
What happened to the Monroe Doctrine? Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2019 #28
Reagan stopped the Russians and Cubans Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #29
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Watch for a Rosnef
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:20 PM
Mar 2019

to secure and claim the Oil Fields. There is a hell of a lot more to this story. Do not forget,the Koch Brothers own and operate our East Coast Refineries that depend on this oil for their operations.

Trump is up to his eye balls in this one.

Igel

(37,613 posts)
9. Wouldn't surprise me.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:29 PM
Mar 2019

1. Maduro is massively in debt to Russia with repayment in oil and if he's overthrown there's no guarantee Guaido would honor that agreement.

2. On the other hand, don't rule out that the Russians will be there to work in the embassy and consulates.

3. Or that it's merely part of securing an airfield as was suggested would be the case a while back.

4. Or that Maduro's finally convinced that maybe his inner circle can't quite be trusted and wants foreign body guards, because nothing says "I'm in charge" like having your patron provide protection.

I go with, in order, (2), (3), (1) to a limited extent after (2) and (3), with (4) in reserve to protect and remove the Russian asset if necessary.

I'm also not going to rule out that Russia wants a piece of the Venezuelan unrefined gold that's being mined in the south, or that Maduro's so convinced that everything's sabotage that he's invited in safe outsiders to protect infrastructure. Like that'll go over well with anybody.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
17. I don't know that people in the USA understand what this means
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 06:57 AM
Mar 2019

Venezuela is a very strategic region, and has been for the USA, why the USA has not intervened for years, starting with Bush II, I don't understand. Venezuela has oil, has the perfect geographical location to set up military camps against the USA.

The orange buffoon and Pence, as always, have been with a bravado that I knew would turn to nothing, I think Putin gave the orders to the orange buffoon to not move into Venezuela to remove maduro's regime, and the idiot obeyed.

If this is a true statement then I feel for the Venezuelan people, on top of the Cubans who have been leading the corrupt military, and they will get their day when they are no longer of any use to the cubans, now with Russian military there, I find very difficult that conditions for Venezuelans will get better and now that threat of Russia taking over Venezuela is very real.

This is real bad news, of course it is for Venezuelans, but it is real bad news for the USA and the World. Imagine, now Putin will have a clear view of the USA, they can attack, if that is the goal, any time they want. They take on Venezuela, then suddenly the cancer continues to spread throughout South America and Central America. All this bullshit of people calling for the USA, within the USA, of USA getting out of Venezuela is so harmful, they obviously are either working for Putin, or they have no clue of the consequences.

I am very sad to find out that I was right about the orange buffoon and Pence putting up an act when I knew Russia was giving them different orders.

Brace yourselves, what is coming in the USA, after the Muller report having been cut shorter than needed, and Barr being a good pet for the orange buffoon, brace yourselves, what is coming is not good. Anyone who thinks Muller was done I think is wrong...Muller had just extended Gates' and Flynn's sentence date because they were going to cooperate more. What Barr did is cut the investigation from the inside, it would have looked really bad if they had fired Muller, so they did it by cutting the investigation, now Barr exonerates all the criminals thus making him a criminal as well...All those years representing the law to end as a criminal himself, that is sad.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
19. If that was true, Muller would come out and say so.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:18 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Mon Mar 25, 2019, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1)

As for your other point, we then have several people HERE on DU working for Putin. Look back and ANY OP critical of the disaster in VZ. ALL the blame is put squarely on the US by those people. Constantly

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
20. "we then have several people HERE on DU working for Putin"
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:20 AM
Mar 2019

There are two options with your statement:

1. You are 100% correct. One example was the "March" in DC which was taped by "RT" (Russian TV), where all the so called "protesters" against USA intervention spoke perfect English, and were not Venezuelans.
2. They are very ignorant about the situation in Venezuela and just feel like making a statement. Unfortunately, we have a lot of people who like to jump the gun and blame the USA for almost everything so, without real knowledge of the situation in Venezuela, or anywhere where the news is evolving, they jump the gun to blame the USA. I wish they would read and inform themselves before commenting.

My opinion is that we have a mix of the two.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
22. By the way, Muller cannot come out and say so
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:39 AM
Mar 2019

Democrats may need to subpoena him to come and testify, only the AG can tell what is in he report at this time.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
23. He cant say what was in the report, but he COULD say he was stopped from proceeding?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 09:14 AM
Mar 2019

I dont see what law THAT would break

Roy Rolling

(7,712 posts)
3. Trump and Pompeo
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:21 PM
Mar 2019

Seriously, two marshmallows who have been insulated from consequences in America all their lives, because people in America are civilized.

Now they're on the world stage, where bone saws are the "art of the deal". Their Venezuela puppet show won't impress countries willing to send troops and missiles in response to their tough talk.

cstanleytech

(28,592 posts)
5. Wonder how long until Maduro is killed in a supposed coup and the Russians send in troops
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:51 PM
Mar 2019

announcing that they are doing it to help restore order?

okaawhatever

(9,568 posts)
6. I don't think Maduro will be killed. Russia wants him in charge. Maduro is Putin's guy. Plus they
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:55 PM
Mar 2019

want to be able to claim that everything they do is government sanctioned. Never mind that Maduro, by VZs own constitution isn't the president.

cstanleytech

(28,592 posts)
7. Thats just it if Maduro is killed the Russians could and probably would try to play the white knight
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:06 PM
Mar 2019

to the Venezuelan people there to save them and help secure their country and they would probably keep playing at it while building up their military to secure it permanently for Russia.

okaawhatever

(9,568 posts)
10. Oh, I understand what you meant now. And ty for showing me an even darker outcome than I
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:31 PM
Mar 2019

imagined. LOL. There is really no bottom with Putin. Especially since VZ owes Russia & China billions of dollars. I imagine that China will tacitly back Putin's moves if it helps them get their money back. It was a cash for oil deal, and VZ can't produce enough right now to meet their obligations to China and Russia.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
21. Maduro is the Castro's guy
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:25 AM
Mar 2019

He was educated in Cuba, and before Chavez died the Castro ordered Chavez to appoint Maduro.

Chavez was Castro's puppet, they got rid of him when Chavez started making his own decisions. The same is going to happen to the orange buffoon, when Putin feels he has outlived his usefulness, he will either bring the pee tapes out, or begin a campaign against him, or just simply have him removed from this earth.

Putin IS interested in Venezuela, of course, oil and geographical position which is perfect for placing military bases. I break my head on why the USA has not done more to prevent this situation, it should have been done during GW's presidency.

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
8. Remember how Putin said he wasn't scared of another missile crisis?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:25 PM
Mar 2019

Don’t be surprised when we discover Russian intermediate range nuclear missiles in Venezuela.

 
11. So, We Might be Facing a Threat from the South, After All
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:32 PM
Mar 2019

One that Trump will do nothing about.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
12. Isn't Bolton pushing for an invasion?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:12 PM
Mar 2019

Didn't Brazilian President Bolsonaro tour CIA HQ on his visit, probably given a preview of invasion plans?

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
18. Now the REAL murdering will begin. MAduro is an amateur compared to the Russians.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:14 AM
Mar 2019

He's NOT the legitimate leader, so no laws wouldve been violated if we'd just arranged for Madruo to get a bullet long ago. Then turn over the country to the newly free people

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
29. Reagan stopped the Russians and Cubans
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:52 PM
Mar 2019

from lengthening the runways in Grenada. The wanted runways long enough to takeoff and land certain Russian propeller driven bombers with nuclear capabilities. The students at the medical school were never in danger. Funny thing is how I know this. One of my instructors and I were taking a break. Off hand he asked me if I knew what bomber needed the longest runway. I said I didn't and he then told me the plane and the length of the runway it needed. It was much later that I heard that Russian officers and Cubans were lengthening the runways, I knew why.

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