Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops: reports
Source: Reuters
Two Russian air force planes landed at Venezuelas main airport on Saturday carrying a Russian defense official and nearly 100 troops, according to media reports, amid strengthening ties between Caracas and Moscow.
A flight-tracking website showed that two planes left from a Russian military airport bound for Caracas on Friday, and another flight-tracking site showed that one plane left Caracas on Sunday.
That comes three months after the two nations held military exercises on Venezuelan soil that President Nicolas Maduro called a sign of strengthening relations, but which Washington criticized as Russian encroachment in the region.
Reporter Javier Mayorca wrote on Twitter on Saturday that the first plane carried Vasily Tonkoshkurov, chief of staff of the ground forces, adding the second was a cargo plane carrying 35 tonnes of material
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/russian-air-force-planes-land-in-venezuela-carrying-troops-report-idUSKCN1R50NB
Nothing good is going to come from this.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)This was predicted four weeks ago in the Guardian Eourpe.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)to secure and claim the Oil Fields. There is a hell of a lot more to this story. Do not forget,the Koch Brothers own and operate our East Coast Refineries that depend on this oil for their operations.
Trump is up to his eye balls in this one.
Igel
(37,613 posts)1. Maduro is massively in debt to Russia with repayment in oil and if he's overthrown there's no guarantee Guaido would honor that agreement.
2. On the other hand, don't rule out that the Russians will be there to work in the embassy and consulates.
3. Or that it's merely part of securing an airfield as was suggested would be the case a while back.
4. Or that Maduro's finally convinced that maybe his inner circle can't quite be trusted and wants foreign body guards, because nothing says "I'm in charge" like having your patron provide protection.
I go with, in order, (2), (3), (1) to a limited extent after (2) and (3), with (4) in reserve to protect and remove the Russian asset if necessary.
I'm also not going to rule out that Russia wants a piece of the Venezuelan unrefined gold that's being mined in the south, or that Maduro's so convinced that everything's sabotage that he's invited in safe outsiders to protect infrastructure. Like that'll go over well with anybody.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)Venezuela is a very strategic region, and has been for the USA, why the USA has not intervened for years, starting with Bush II, I don't understand. Venezuela has oil, has the perfect geographical location to set up military camps against the USA.
The orange buffoon and Pence, as always, have been with a bravado that I knew would turn to nothing, I think Putin gave the orders to the orange buffoon to not move into Venezuela to remove maduro's regime, and the idiot obeyed.
If this is a true statement then I feel for the Venezuelan people, on top of the Cubans who have been leading the corrupt military, and they will get their day when they are no longer of any use to the cubans, now with Russian military there, I find very difficult that conditions for Venezuelans will get better and now that threat of Russia taking over Venezuela is very real.
This is real bad news, of course it is for Venezuelans, but it is real bad news for the USA and the World. Imagine, now Putin will have a clear view of the USA, they can attack, if that is the goal, any time they want. They take on Venezuela, then suddenly the cancer continues to spread throughout South America and Central America. All this bullshit of people calling for the USA, within the USA, of USA getting out of Venezuela is so harmful, they obviously are either working for Putin, or they have no clue of the consequences.
I am very sad to find out that I was right about the orange buffoon and Pence putting up an act when I knew Russia was giving them different orders.
Brace yourselves, what is coming in the USA, after the Muller report having been cut shorter than needed, and Barr being a good pet for the orange buffoon, brace yourselves, what is coming is not good. Anyone who thinks Muller was done I think is wrong...Muller had just extended Gates' and Flynn's sentence date because they were going to cooperate more. What Barr did is cut the investigation from the inside, it would have looked really bad if they had fired Muller, so they did it by cutting the investigation, now Barr exonerates all the criminals thus making him a criminal as well...All those years representing the law to end as a criminal himself, that is sad.
oldsoftie
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As for your other point, we then have several people HERE on DU working for Putin. Look back and ANY OP critical of the disaster in VZ. ALL the blame is put squarely on the US by those people. Constantly
Perseus
(4,341 posts)There are two options with your statement:
1. You are 100% correct. One example was the "March" in DC which was taped by "RT" (Russian TV), where all the so called "protesters" against USA intervention spoke perfect English, and were not Venezuelans.
2. They are very ignorant about the situation in Venezuela and just feel like making a statement. Unfortunately, we have a lot of people who like to jump the gun and blame the USA for almost everything so, without real knowledge of the situation in Venezuela, or anywhere where the news is evolving, they jump the gun to blame the USA. I wish they would read and inform themselves before commenting.
My opinion is that we have a mix of the two.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)Democrats may need to subpoena him to come and testify, only the AG can tell what is in he report at this time.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)I dont see what law THAT would break
Roy Rolling
(7,712 posts)Seriously, two marshmallows who have been insulated from consequences in America all their lives, because people in America are civilized.
Now they're on the world stage, where bone saws are the "art of the deal". Their Venezuela puppet show won't impress countries willing to send troops and missiles in response to their tough talk.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)PatSeg
(53,540 posts)cstanleytech
(28,592 posts)announcing that they are doing it to help restore order?
okaawhatever
(9,568 posts)want to be able to claim that everything they do is government sanctioned. Never mind that Maduro, by VZs own constitution isn't the president.
cstanleytech
(28,592 posts)to the Venezuelan people there to save them and help secure their country and they would probably keep playing at it while building up their military to secure it permanently for Russia.
okaawhatever
(9,568 posts)imagined. LOL. There is really no bottom with Putin. Especially since VZ owes Russia & China billions of dollars. I imagine that China will tacitly back Putin's moves if it helps them get their money back. It was a cash for oil deal, and VZ can't produce enough right now to meet their obligations to China and Russia.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)He was educated in Cuba, and before Chavez died the Castro ordered Chavez to appoint Maduro.
Chavez was Castro's puppet, they got rid of him when Chavez started making his own decisions. The same is going to happen to the orange buffoon, when Putin feels he has outlived his usefulness, he will either bring the pee tapes out, or begin a campaign against him, or just simply have him removed from this earth.
Putin IS interested in Venezuela, of course, oil and geographical position which is perfect for placing military bases. I break my head on why the USA has not done more to prevent this situation, it should have been done during GW's presidency.
okaawhatever
(9,568 posts)roamer65
(37,974 posts)Dont be surprised when we discover Russian intermediate range nuclear missiles in Venezuela.
Norman Conkedwest
(46 posts)One that Trump will do nothing about.
sarisataka
(22,835 posts)Until they are parachuting into Colorado
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Didn't Brazilian President Bolsonaro tour CIA HQ on his visit, probably given a preview of invasion plans?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)But we don't have Kennedy, this time.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)He's NOT the legitimate leader, so no laws wouldve been violated if we'd just arranged for Madruo to get a bullet long ago. Then turn over the country to the newly free people
maryellen99
(3,798 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,231 posts)Is that still a thing?
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)from lengthening the runways in Grenada. The wanted runways long enough to takeoff and land certain Russian propeller driven bombers with nuclear capabilities. The students at the medical school were never in danger. Funny thing is how I know this. One of my instructors and I were taking a break. Off hand he asked me if I knew what bomber needed the longest runway. I said I didn't and he then told me the plane and the length of the runway it needed. It was much later that I heard that Russian officers and Cubans were lengthening the runways, I knew why.
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