Schiff defiant: 'Undoubtedly, there is collusion'
Source: The Hill
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 03/27/19 07:52 AM EDT
House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said in a new interview that he believes evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia "undoubtedly" exists and can be found by his committee, even though a summary of Robert Mueller's investigation said there was no evidence to support that conclusion.
Schiff told The Washington Post that the special counsel's investigators did not look at whether Trump was subject to the influence of foreign powers, and said that his committee would continue to pursue an investigation into whether the president's campaign worked with Russia or other countries in 2016.
Undoubtedly, there is collusion, Schiff told the Post. We will continue to investigate the counterintelligence issues. That is, is the president or people around him compromised in any way by a hostile foreign power?"
"It doesnt appear that was any part of Muellers report," he continued.
Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435983-schiff-defiant-undoubtedly-there-is-collusion
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)subpoena of Mueller and Mueller's report to be brought before his committee?? Let trump and GOP fight against doing this.
I would think the subpoena for both would have gone out yesterday.
Ligyron
(7,825 posts)They'll catch their footing and move forward.
DownriverDem
(6,473 posts)They will subpoena both Barr and Mueller. There are talks going on now. One thing for sure, the majority of the country does not believe trump and the repubs. Now we see they are going to destroy ObamaCare (which includes Medicaid expansion) that will take away health care from millions of Americans. It will also take away the benefits we all enjoy - protecting pre-existing conditions and allowing your child to stay on your health insurance until 26 to name a couple of benefits that would end. I abhor repubs.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He has stated that he will subpoena Mueller "if necessary." He's being logical and reasonable, making DT look more defensive and freaked out by contrast.
One has to have a carrot before bringing out the stick. What motivation would the GOP have to release the report if Schiff had already subpoeneaed Muller? Think about it.
Besides, it gives the GOP more rope to hang themselves, knowing that they will have to come up with more and more excuses for why they won't release a report that found nothing wrong about DOTUS?
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)the next step in the offensive for democrats occur. Until then it is not a real play with the public. Force GOP to defend not abiding a congressional subpoena, the sooner the better.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)After that the subpoenas can begin flowing.
William Barr..."I have worked all my life to put myself through law school, to become AG, but my greatest moment has been to be accepted into trump's pet collection, I am now a puppet of trump, I have realized my lifetime goal."
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)onetexan
(13,599 posts)That this guy who had already served honorably (at least from the perspective that the previous POTUS he served under was half decent compared to the Idiot) would be willing to disgrave himself to cover up for such a hideous and corrupt man. Has he no integrity?
rzemanfl
(30,174 posts)MondoMan
(17 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Now the ball is in Congress' court. Whether the actual report comes or not, they can move forward.
Does anyone believe that they are going to let the whole report be released? Not unless it paints DT as an absolute angel.
DeminPennswoods
(15,871 posts)Russian government, not Russians. I think it's a generally accepted fact that the Russian government doesn't directly involve itself. All the dirty work is done by oligarchs and others technically unaffiliated with the government.
Botany
(71,817 posts)Both the FSB (used to be the KGB) and the GRU (Russia's military intel) worked
on rigging our elections.
csziggy
(34,179 posts)"Voice on Tape: As always, should you or any of your IM force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck, Jim. This tape will self-destruct in five seconds."
Now translate that into Russian. The Russian government, either behind the Iron Curtain or now, would have had the same policy - as did and does the US government - for their operatives.
The Mission Impossible team screwed with elections on at least one episode:
TV-PG | 1h | Action, Adventure, Crime | Episode aired 29 October 1966
Season 1 | Episode 7
The IMF team's tasked to "unfix" a crooked election by thwarting plans to use a crooked voting machine in a crucial voting district in a South American country. "The Wheels" are the tally counters in the voting machine.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0649373/
DeminPennswoods
(15,871 posts)The episode where they built a fake submarine in a warehouse to catch a former Nazi, iirc, and the one where they drilled into a vault, melted the gold bars and drained out the liquid gold were classics.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)The counter is no one would do this independently of the FSB in Russia and expect to have a long life.
It's a rough place; they do not play.
DeminPennswoods
(15,871 posts)which is a narrow definition. We know from public accounts that Trump et al was more than willing to conspire with Russians if by nothing more than Jr's "If it's what you say, I love it!" email setting up the Trump Tower meeting.
C_U_L8R
(45,400 posts)In fact, no one really knows what the Mueller report says.
At this point there were no further neatly packaged prosecutions.
But there may be tons of evidence.
zaj
(3,433 posts)Political cover. Frame the narrative in the media. Cover up without covering up.
zaj
(3,433 posts)even though a summary of Robert Mueller's investigation said there was no evidence to support that conclusion
It didn't say this... At all.
There isn't enough evidence to bring a conviction at 90% confidence. There might bea lot of evidence, but not enough to convict in court with near certainty of winning.
DallasNE
(7,507 posts)The report said the evidence was not sufficient enough to convict beyond a reasonable doubt.
Also, I don't know why Israel isn't named as one of those countries that helped Trump during the election. Trump has certainly returned the favor.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)They would need to do something illegal, like hack an email server.
Do you have evidence the Mossad was up to something? Or is this just an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory?
DallasNE
(7,507 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Their Office of Ungentlemanly Warfare is the Mossad.
What illegal act, if any, do you claim Israel participated in?
Go ahead, don't be coy.
DallasNE
(7,507 posts)I have attached a link that covers some of the issues I read about but is not the original source. My memory was of Sheldon Addleson connections inside of Israel that he encouraged to help Trump by setting up false social media accounts to use in that regard - similar to what was going on in Russia. These kinds of foreign services are considered contributions when done for political purposes. I also recall a Popadopalous connection with Israel from his plea deal that may not have been legal but my search didn't locate that.
Perhaps I should have said Israeli rather than Israel but that changes little.
https://mondoweiss.net/2018/10/israeli-president-rewards/
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Three comments:
1. Sheldon Anderson is not Israeli. He's from Dorchester, MA and lives in Las Vegas.
2. While apparently a private group in Israel offered to help, they were turned down by Trump. Says so in your article.
3. That's an interesting website. One article claims saying "Israel has a right to exist" is racist. Another pushes the (long debunked) myth that Israeli Jews are Khazars. (Being proven wrong both by the fact that this was genetically dis-proven in the Ashkenazi population at issue and because the plurality of Israeli Jews are Sephardic -- that is, Jewish people that were ethnically cleansed from the surrounding countries (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc). They had to flee to the British Mandate/Israel to escape being murdered. I normally see those kind of theories on right-wing Neo-Nazi websites -- but they've seen to found a home with the pro-Arab/one-state crowd. I'd peruse the site with caution.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)many other examples: Trump's furtive trysts with Putin, with no Americans present, after which Putin emerges with that post-orgasm smirk. Firing Comey, then immediately inviting the Russian foreign minister and the Russian ambassador over to the WH for a high-five and sharing some sensitive classified information, Trump constantly praising Putin, ...
I don't understand how there's any debate about it, nor any need to investigate. Trump colluded; it's a publicly obvious fact. There may be more collusion, but what's publicly established is unambiguously collusion.
DallasNE
(7,507 posts)Barr is a total yes man that will kiss Trump's butt at every turn. Below is a video of Barr addressing immigration at our southern border. He sounds exactly like Trump so make no mistake, he is Trump's hatchet man.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=video+of+william+barr+speaking+at+the+whitehouse&view=detail&mid=929FE6AEBF2C44B848FB929FE6AEBF2C44B848FB&FORM=VIRE
Irishxs
(622 posts)paleotn
(18,787 posts)that we can trust what the US AG says implicitly. Theyre unaware or intentionally obtuse to the fact that the rules have changed
Gothmog
(152,079 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)If the people investigating are already sure of the facts, why even bother? He should just start impeachment now.