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turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:16 AM Mar 2019

Centene to buy WellCare for $15B creating ACA powerhouse

Last edited Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: Associated Press

By TOM MURPHY an hour ago

Centene is spending more than $15 billion on rival WellCare to dive deeper into government-funded health coverage in the same week that President Donald Trump’s administration renewed its attack on the Affordable Care Act.

The insurer said Wednesday that its cash-and-stock deal to buy WellCare will create an insurer that manages Medicaid coverage for more than 12 million people and covers several million more in the federal government’s Medicare program for people age 65 and older.

The deal comes after the administration attacked the ACA in court Monday, saying that former President Barack Obama’s health care law should be declared unconstitutional after Congress repealed one part of it — unpopular fines on people who remain uninsured. The 2010 Affordable Care Act expanded coverage to millions of people by creating individual insurance exchanges and increasing Medicaid enrollment in several states.

Centene Corp., based in St. Louis, has built its business around Medicaid, the state and federally funded program for people who are poor or disabled, and also has expanded aggressively on the exchanges.

Read more: https://apnews.com/f9b111d19e634b1b8ebe7916fb672764



Think about this for one minute this for profit insurer is going to buy another for profit insurer, to make a buck off Medicaid recipients from the federal tax payer system to manage Medicaid....................what the fuck is CMS doing with that lobbyist running that government agency......................making a buck off the taxpayers.

This "deal" really shows why health care costs are going up........................this is just outrageous, health care should not be to make "stock" go up for investors on the backs of people that are sick or disabled ...........................


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Centene to buy WellCare for $15B creating ACA powerhouse (Original Post) turbinetree Mar 2019 OP
I totally agree, watoos Mar 2019 #1
I am also on Medicare and Social Security..................... turbinetree Mar 2019 #3
Care Source True Blue American Mar 2019 #4
Just read the bio of one Pamela Morris turbinetree Mar 2019 #9
And now they are expanding True Blue American Mar 2019 #13
I had forgotten they raised the age limit. watoos Mar 2019 #5
You said it! True Blue American Mar 2019 #14
I did not think they changed the Medicare age. True Blue American Mar 2019 #15
DEMS need to start using sound bites and propaganda. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Mar 2019 #11
less competition means these conglomerates have more control over ACA and the wall street banksters yaesu Mar 2019 #2
The end result of capitalism is monopoly. watoos Mar 2019 #6
I think something is up with Trumps attack on the ACA too ToxMarz Mar 2019 #10
Yep, good observation & I believe this is their endgame. nt yaesu Mar 2019 #12
More proof that capitalism would be up Shit Creek if it didn't have socialism bullwinkle428 Mar 2019 #7
Yup, we wouldn't have, watoos Mar 2019 #8
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
1. I totally agree,
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:28 AM
Mar 2019

The problem is that you are being factual and realistic about our health care providers. Republicans use sound bites and propaganda.

People are unaware what is really happening.

I am on Medicare, and I think it was back in 2013 that Congress passed the Sequester which I think goes on until 2022? In the Sequester, every year 2% is cut from funds that go to Medicare doctors. Republicans want Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid to fail.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
3. I am also on Medicare and Social Security.....................
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:40 AM
Mar 2019

and some how I am hoping that my wife can get on a Medicaid for All program or be giving Medicare at her age, instead of having to wait until she is 67 ......................this is just outrageous.

That above article is just amazing, this is just so wrong, to make a buck of people are disabled or on Medicaid, and now some states are denying people on Medicaid, because they have to look for "work" 80 hrs of the month for three months, and if they fail that litmus test, they are kicked off Medicaid, 37 states want to implement that BS..................I really do hate fascist republicans and corporations that are enabling this crap.........................


November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough to declare National Emergency by a Democrat on Health Care, and to clean up the packed courts from this jerk.......................I mean seriously......................

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
9. Just read the bio of one Pamela Morris
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:58 AM
Mar 2019

about passion:

“The Pamela Morris Center will inspire Daytonians for decades to come by reminding them of what is possible when you follow your passion.”

Propaganda BS...........................she was paid a salary to get her hands on Medicaid and Medicare money to be an administrator off the backs of taxpayers.....................she alone was making over 2.9 million dollars to do exactly what build buildings, and hire people to get money from the taxpayers, the same taxpayers that have Medicare taken out of there paychecks, to subsidize her in her retirement...................

https://www.daytondailynews.com/business/caresource-ceo-earned/YCGJH184j6WnOk8OdYxahJ/


this is just insane...............


This is from 2017 but this shows why the system is failing....................all of our Medicare and Medicaid is stock price.....................to pay some jerk a salary, by showing how to siphon money from health care....................

https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/ceo-pay-2017-342-million-unitedhealth-molina-cigna-aetna

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
13. And now they are expanding
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:44 PM
Mar 2019

Into Medicare Advantage because Medicaid is not enough. This is taking place all over Ohio.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. I had forgotten they raised the age limit.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:17 AM
Mar 2019

I went on Medicare at 65, I went on SS at 63 which means I only get 85%. I had a union sponsored health care plan from 62 to 65. Yeah those evil unions allowed me to retire early. I turned wrenches and built huge glass bottle machines for a living for 41 years. I traveled all over the country and world. I would wake up at 3 AM in the morning with cramps in my fingers. Thank god for SS, Medicare, and my union insurance, I got out before my arthritis turned into carpal tunnel.

Good luck with the wife, best wishes.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
15. I did not think they changed the Medicare age.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:50 PM
Mar 2019

Only SS. Have you checked? Several people I know have Medicaid before 65. It is income based.

I would check with whoever the Provider is.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. DEMS need to start using sound bites and propaganda. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:08 PM
Mar 2019


Short simple words used in a battle plan like the enemy does... !

And get with the program !!!

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
2. less competition means these conglomerates have more control over ACA and the wall street banksters
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:30 AM
Mar 2019

are pulling the strings. All they need to do is threaten to get out of the ACA market if they don't get their way, too big to fail has become too big to say no to.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. The end result of capitalism is monopoly.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:20 AM
Mar 2019

The end result of crony capitalism, which is what we have, is fascism. Only it is corporations who control government.

ToxMarz

(2,162 posts)
10. I think something is up with Trumps attack on the ACA too
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:04 PM
Mar 2019

They aren't willy nilly willing to spend $15 billion on uncertainty. I think the insurers and Repugs are going towards attacking the ACA to get people to just be happy to keep it (in name only) in return for letting them gut its protections and benefits making it more profitable.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
7. More proof that capitalism would be up Shit Creek if it didn't have socialism
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:31 AM
Mar 2019

to back it up, but the goddamned rubes that voted for this ass-clown are too stupid to figure that out.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. Yup, we wouldn't have,
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:36 AM
Mar 2019

a single nuclear power plant were it not for Socialism. I'm not advocating for nuclear power plants just using them for an example.

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