Schumer says Trump and Democrats agreed to $2 trillion figure on infrastructure

[yaesu]

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Source: CBS news

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said President Trump and Democrats agreed to spend $2 trillion on infrastructure over 25 years in a "constructive" White House meeting, and will meet again in three weeks on how to pay for it.

But that number, reached in a meeting with only Democratic members present and no Republican members present, could already be dead on arrival. House Minority Whip Steve Scalise told reporters Monday there was no appetite within the GOP for a $2 trillion deal.

Schumer and Pelosi, speaking to reporters after the meeting, said the roughly 90-minute meeting emphasized the importance of broadband, bridges and highways. They insisted Congress and the White House can work together at the same time as Congress is exercising oversight in Congress.

Democrats, according to top White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, requested the meeting, and the White House didn't have a blueprint going into the meeting. Democrats have set out a handful of key — albeit general — principles for piecing together an infrastructure deal, which Mr. Trump has long believed the two sides can work together on, even in hyper-partisan Washington. The White House acknowledged Monday it does not yet have a blueprint ahead of the meeting with Democrats.



Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-meeting-with-democrats-on-infrastructure-without-a-plan/

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So, we are helping tRump look good before the election? This has got to be a trap to make tRump, his party look bad when they can't agree on how to pay for it, how much to privatize.

[SHRED]

1. He'll use this against us

Mark my words.

[underpants]

4. Yes he'll lie. The poo flingers in the House will kill it

and their machine will turn reality on its head.

[JDC]

18. Agreed fully

[pangaia]

42. ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY !!

I wish Chuck and Nancy would not have been so 'gracious' in their comments about him''



WTF were they thinking??



And how much ya wanna bet it will never happen. He will use it for a while, then poof... "Cheesy Chuckie and Nenny Nancy," or some other such shit...


Fuck him three ways to Sunday..

[The Mouth]

51. Unless he can figure out how to get a big piece of it

Then he'll be all in.

He'll sell out how own party as quickly as anyone else for a chunk of two big.

[crazytown]

2. This will last as long as his tryst with Stormy.

The GOP will go nuts. Hannity will get on the phone and it will all be over by beddybyes.

[DonCoquixote]

3. FOOLS!

WE cannot allow trump to blow that amount of cash while his office is packed with cronies that will steal most of it,and privtaize the rest. Of course congres will vote it down on the elephant side, but now Trump can look like the victim

[crazytown]

5. Ain't gonna happen

You’ll see. It’s another Trump thought bubble destined to burst.

[NCjack]

6. Trump will back out of deal when he can't deliver our infrastructure to the rich.

He always crawfishes.

[Mike Nelson]

7. Republicans will...

… want to get the two trillion by cutting "waste" - like social security programs. They will include Trump's proposed wall as infrastructure.

[klook]

33. Yes, and they will demand the rollback of "cumbersome" environmental protections

-- er, regulations -- in the bargain.

[orangecrush]

54. This.

[BeyondGeography]

8. Sure they did

[unblock]

9. as soon as he signs it, he'll call the wall "infrastructure"....

[ancianita]

10. More like using Schumer to look good b4 the election; Schumer might be up to something himself.

[still_one]

11. This is typical MSM distortion. Did they even listen to what Pelosi and Schumer said in their news

conference?

They agreed in principle, but also made it clear that it depends where the funding comes from

The reason this isn't going to go anywhere is because the Democrats are going to say the funding must come from the scam tax republican tax bill which benefited only a small percentage

[yaesu]

14. and tRump wanted to privatize everything so that should be a big no no also. nt

[oldsoftie]

27. Seems people only read headlines

[ariadne0614]

12. Thom Hartmann is ranting against this right now.

Looks like the freaked out Wall Street thugs got to Pelosi and Schumer. So much for making tRump a 1-term dictator. #FeelingSoldOut

[doompatrol39]

13. Reaching across that aisle for some sweet bipartisanship

This DEFINITELY will lure those mythical moderate Republicans to our side and DEFINITELY will never backfire in any way.

[TeamPooka]

15. real infrastructure or Trump's tax breaks infrastructure? big diff there between the two

[Perseus]

16. I can come up with some ideas on how to pay for it

1. Get rid of the buffoon and his family, they cost too much.
2. Get rid of the tax breaks implemented by the repubs.
3. Reverse every bill/law the repubs have passed in the last two years.
4. Reduce military spending, get better audits to make sure money is not wasted in projects that never produce anything positive.
5. Stop oil subsidies
6. Eliminate tax loopholes that allow companies like GE to not pay taxes.
7. Set outsource fees to corporations to make sure they bring the jobs back
8. Place a cap in high executive compensations, it is ludicrous that a CEO who did not create a company, who is an employee to gate a $700,000,000 a year salary. I believe that is the salary of the CEO at Disney. Exxon CEO got a $400,000,000.00 bonus many years ago, why? Did he create Exxon? Imagine what these companies can do with that money if they don't have to give it to a single person, maybe better salaries to its employees?
9. Simplify the Tax laws.
10. Tax the super rich accordingly, I believe AOC has a good plan for that.
11. Eliminate "Healthcare for life" for public employees like Congress and Senators, even the President. People need to understand that a President is just a servant of the people, he/she is not a special person, most are very intelligent and that is why we vote for them, but someone like the buffoon makes my point very well, he is specially corrupt and inept, he does not deserve any of the perks that come with the presidency. Now, imagine all the money we will save if we take away the life-long healthcare, and other perks? It will also accomplish that people, when they run for office is not because of the perks, but because they truly want to serve the country.
12. If a person is indicted, serves time in prison, that person should never be allowed to run for office.

And there is so much more...

[orangecrush]

56. +1

[duforsure]

17. Wonder how much he'll get funneled back to his pockets

By getting only contractors that'll give to his campaign PAC fund. Schummer may be making a huge mistake.

[yaesu]

19. It won't get past the how we pay for it phase nor allowing for privatization of roads, bridges. nt

[delisen]

20. This is to be paid for by tax increases such as gasoline

instead of increasing gas tax to pay for green alternatives. It is a win for the hard hat labor force, not for the rest of us-we will be scrambling as inflation steps up.

The massive tax cut for corporations snd super rich last year got those two groups out of paying going forward. So most of us are going to be quite strapped economically.

Politicians generally divide programs between social and ecomomic-we will be offered help and some protection in saving reproductive rights, saving social safety net, saving education, disability programs, equality

If we are going to ever get off the merry-go-round we are going to have to win these battles over the next 18 months.

[Lonestarblue]

21. This may make Republicans look bad.

I think candidates should use this in their Senate and House elections. Scalise says they don’t want to spend the money, yet last year they were more than willing to give corporations and very rich people $1.5 trillion over 10 years. Since the $2 trillion is over 25 years, they can just rescind that tax bill and pay for the infrastructure needs. So whether Trump backs out or not, Republicans can be made to look bad here.

[yaesu]

26. this is the way I'm looking at it now, it may be good move if played right. nt

[Ponietz]

41. I know they're trolling him but sometimes I feel trolled, too

It is becoming more difficult to recognize who is gaslighting who these days.

[Coastal Elite]

48. Over 25 years??

2 Trillion over 25 years?
That won't pay for anything. 25 divided into 2,000,000,000,000 = only $80,000,000,000/year. Hardly making a dent.

[crazyabout71]

67. Good on you, Coastal Elite!

That was my first thought - 25 years??? The Pentagon probably gets that much in 3 years! California, with its 5th largest economy in the world, could probably raise & spend that much on infrastructure in half that time, probably less!

[mcar]

22. I cannot believe the replies I'm seeing to this OP

Once again, some on this board seem to think Dotard is a strategic genius and Pelosi and Schumer are dumb rubes.

[oldsoftie]

25. Its something isnt it?

[mcar]

28. It shouldn't surprise me after all these years

But it still infuriates me.

[Iliyah]

32. Yep.

[mcar]

35. My head hurts from rolling my eyes so much

and from this:

[sheshe2]

50. I noticed.

[mcar]

52. Makes me

[sheshe2]

55. Oh, yeah!

[Cary]

61. The Democrat bashers are a pathetic lot

They disgust me.

[mcar]

62. And me

And it never stops, it seems.

[Corgigal]

23. Great, so we're working with a criminal.

Shouldn't we just wait for the next election and do a McConnell? Just pass a damn bill and let the criminal veto it. I have no idea why any of this happened ? I guess someone who see politics wiser then me can get it.

[oldsoftie]

24. He talked about infrastructure during the election. He was right. But the GOP wont go along.

They wont want to spend any money on all the shit thats needed. Its not "cool" to fix sewers & roads.

[sdfernando]

29. the orange pustule doesn't keep his word about anything...

besides the reptilian controlled Senate will not pass it..so DOA anyway.

[George II]

30. That's exactly what it is - they painted trump in a corner and when he doesn't deliver it will be...

....a smashing blow. It's "when", not "if" he doesn't deliver.

It definitely doesn't make him look good at all.

[mcar]

37. And in so doing, they showed Americans that they care about our country

and the issues important to people.

[beachbum bob]

31. so where is the revenue coming from? GOP won't raise taxes back where they should be

[Ponietz]

34. UGH!

[ginnyinWI]

36. Remember, if he doesn't have an opinion going into a meeting,

he will agree with the last person he listened to.

Tomorrow someone else will talk and he will agree with them instead.

[Afromania]

38. He knows jack shit and has agreed to something that the republicans arent going to like in the end

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So, I predict the house will put together something reasonable with cuts to stuff like defense/raises in select taxes to pay for it. It'll get out of the House to the Senate where one of two things will happen. Either A) it will get beaten down by ratfucker turtle and the real head of the GOP and its titular head clash. They'll go about furthering the narrative that the GOP isn't interested in doing shit for the country. It'll be GOP civil war but they wont shed voters. The people that vote for the GOP will vote republican or nothing at all. We can never count on them to vote for us in and real numbers.

In scenario B what the Democrats want to do actually gets through the Senate and signed by stupid. While trump might get a few kudos
for signing the thing. The never trumpers/establishment republicans will use it as an opening to pounce and try to push his primary challenger. They call say that he isn't a true republican and so on, and so on. Just like the first scenario the Gop is at each others throats and the Democrats are looking good.

This also negates the narrative the GOP is trying to push that we aren't doing anything in congress other than investigating, and undermining trump. Unlike the Republican party we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

[Liberalhammer]

39. It's a trap

I hope Chuck and Nancy have a plan. Otherwise their fools.

[Bonhomme Richard]

40. It gives the GOP a reason to take more.....

from those that can least afford it and I would be shocked if the money went to infrastructure. One thing you can be sure of is that the wealthy will not pay one dime into it and if there is actually infrastructure work then they will be the ones getting the lucrative contracts.
Am I too cynical?...................Nah!

[patphil]

47. Lily Tomlin used to say...

No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up.
Remember Trump never keeps promises, and a deal is only as good as how much it enriches him.
This won't last very long.

[demosincebirth]

43. Trusting him to keep his word is precarious

[orangecrush]

60. you are a master...

of understatement!

[INdemo]

44. This was brillant by Speaker Pelosi..Repunlicans have no interest in advancing

this legislation. It is dead in the water but,but when Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats are accused of doing nothing but investigations they can say hey..."We introduced infrastructure legislation but Republicans shot it down"
McConnel will throw this in the trash if it should happen to get to the Senate.

[mcar]

45. Yep

Our Democrats got the Rs caught between the proverbial rock and hard place.

[keithbvadu2]

46. To Trump, 'infrastructure' means 'wall'.

[DorothyG]

49. How many federal initiatives have intentionally survived 25 years?

[orangecrush]

53. On the same day we are debating impeachment

How can you negotiate with a man who calls murdering nazis "good people" and tears children from their parents and throws them in cages?

[yaesu]

57. Good point! nt

[orangecrush]

58. Money TRUMPS morality.

[zentrum]

59. I think Dems have just handed

....Trump a huge gift.

Now he'll be able to hand out contracts to private companies and any time you can dispense favors---you gain power. So Trump is majorly empowered. Probably hire Erik Prince's outfit who will build things to the same lousy specs he used in Iraq. Because these guys T gives infrastructure gifts to will cheat.

Secondly it allows bragging rights for jobs. He'll preen king-like over every aspect of it. Probably will even try to divert some of it to The Wall.

And the 2Trillion will come out of the social safety net--Medcaid, Medicare, SS, food stamps, schools etc.

Makes T look reasonable as hell too.

I think this will be a mess.

[Cary]

63. You know better?

Run for office.

[zentrum]

64. Wait and Watch.

[orangecrush]

65. I won't run for office but

I will be voting in the democratic primaries.

I also have a phone that works quite nicely for calling congresspeople.

To their credit, none of them have ever been rude when I voiced my opinion.

[Hotler]

66. We won't impeach if you sign an infrastructure bill. I think a back door deal was mad.

Nancy has no fight to impeach and the red don is happy to sign away $2 Trillion. Something stinks.

[Nitram]

68. Trump NEVER keeps his end of a deal. It's a point of pride with him. He thinks makes him look

strong and his enemies weak.