Adults who were vaccinated in the 1960s may need a measles booster
Source: CBS News
Some adults who were vaccinated against the measles in the 1960s may only have partial immunity. CBS News' Dr. David Agus explained on "CBS This Morning" Friday why people who were vaccinated from 1963 to 1968 should see their doctor about potentially getting a booster shot.
"Starting in 1963 we started vaccinating," Agus said. "The first five years of the vaccine -- some batches of it were not very good. None of us really know which batch we got."
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According to Agus, those who were born before 1957 were most likely exposed to measles, meaning 95-98 percent of them have enough antibodies to fight the disease. From 1968 to 1989 doctors gave only one shot, meaning immunity among those people may be a little lower than those who received two shots.
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The CDC has confirmed the largest number of cases -- mostly in unvaccinated children -- since measles was declared eradicated in the U.S. in 2000. Measles can linger in one's body without symptoms, putting newborns who don't have antibodies yet and are too young for a booster shot at risk. In other words, it's not just about you.
Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/measles-vaccine-adults-who-were-vaccinated-in-the-1960s-may-need-a-measles-booster/
To repeat what the article says: IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YOU!!!!!!
still_one
(92,138 posts)test to determine if they need a vaccine booster
This applies only to those who have been previously vaccinated. Those who have never been vaccinated, and have no existing conditions that would preclude a vaccination, such as a compromised immune system or allergies, because we are dealing with a live vaccine with measles
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Coventina
(27,101 posts)Then, just as I started college, there was a measles outbreak and the college required proof of immunization to attend classes.
Well, my record had been lost, so I went and got another jab...this would have been in the mid 80s.
So, I hope I'm now OK.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)that made the change in the measles vaccination, and I believe they give two, several years apart.
Here's an interesting chart.
Coventina
(27,101 posts)kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)So according to this article I cant get measles again?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)Last edited Fri May 3, 2019, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)
I had measles as a child myself and so I personally don't worry in the least bit about getting it again.
That's one of the reasons people cite as a reason not to get vaccinated. Get the disease, immune forever. That would work the same way with smallpox, also. I'm glad I got the smallpox vaccination back when, and even more glad that it no longer exists in the wild.
CORRECTION:
I wrote measles below, and I should have said chicken pox. Please note that those who corrected me below saw the original post below.
Also, since most people are vaccinated these days, at least in this country, shingles is more common. It works like this. Back in the day before vaccinations, when everyone got measles, an adult who'd had the disease would periodically be re-exposed to the virus, their immune system would go, "Oh, I know what this is" and all would be fine. To anthropomorphize things, now the virus that lives on after we've recovered from the disease, gets bored and activates. Shingles!
There's a new vaccine for the shingles. I got the old one several years ago and keep on intending to get the new one. It's a two part vaccine, and pharmacies are having trouble keeping it in stock.
That is wrong. Chicken pox wasn't under discussion and I had a brain fart.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)I think I'll go back and post a correction.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I had chickenpox as a child and was vaccinated for Measles and never have had Measles....but I have had Shingles multiple times over last decade (including in my 40's which is rare) and have had to be vaccinated for Shingles....and still had Shingles....
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)I'll go back and post a correction.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)And that unfortunately none of it seemed to have worked for me....
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)the disease wrong, and I'm glad I got corrected very quickly.
Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts)So the effort is appreciated.
Raster
(20,998 posts)1. Zostavax, which is about 50% effective; and
2. Shingrix, with is the newest vaccine and given in two doses, which is about 90% effective.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)The one I have had multiple times now and that clearly puts me in the 50% that for whom it is ineffective is the Zostavax.
I am going to ask about the Shingrix - clearly that is one I should take a look at....Shingles is awful. Have had it 4 times now since I was 42....
Really never want it again....
Raster
(20,998 posts)...and I NEVER want to have to go through it. In fact, I am due to get my second Shingrix shot this weekend. The good news is that the Shingrix vaccine used to be hard to get because so many people wanted it. Now, it is pretty much available on demand.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)discount. Right now I am taking it (and rationing it) from my doctor's free samples. My pharmacy wants to charge me $4l4 for 2 months supply which I simply cannot afford. They say they will honor certain coupons from Lyrica's manufacturer which I can get online. but the amount of a discount is uncertain.
This is an awful situation. I am going to take the coupon into the pharmacy and see if they can honor it (they really want to help).
moriah
(8,311 posts)Namely, an income under 48,000 for a single person, and not enough coverage to pay for your medication.
https://www.pfizerrxpathways.com/learn-about-programs
If you are on Medicare or Medicaid, they will have to ship the med to your doctor's office vs using a copay assistance card (controlled substance), and you have to submit documentation showing need. Make sure they get a good copy of your driver's license, as with it being a controlled substance they have to make sure you're legal to get it.
But I've used their program before for Celebrex, and the only issue with them also approving the Lyrica shipments was the fact they didn't get my DL clearly enough.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I'm not sure I qualify income wise, but I will try what I can. But this website helps.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)I had 3 day measles, too, as a kid, but as I recall there were 2 varieties, 3-day (German/Rubella) measles and 9-day measles with the latter being the more severe one.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Fortunately it's usually only healthcare workers who would be required to get an antibody titer test of the generation that probably had measles as a child -- most of that generation is beyond reproductive years.
But a friend of mine who was a nurse had all three diseases in the MMR vaccine as a child, yet her measles antibody titer wasn't high enough from her natural illness to meet institutional immunity standards. It took three rounds of vaccine, not just two or the one they expected, to get her titer level high enough for the hospital to feel she'd be safe to be called on in an outbreak.
And since we're in a state where we have a high rate of homeschoolers, and many get to college without having been vaccinated as a result... it's quite possible we could have a large outbreak. So health care workers potentially taking care of measles cases really should be immune and tested to confirm it -- they are at a high risk of spreading it to others who are not immune/not immune enough if the virus can start incubating in their body.
Other issues could make you want to get your titer levels tested or just schedule a booster series -- if you have a grandchild/niece/nephew and don't want to risk potential exposure, if you work with immunocompromised individuals, if you hang out around unvaccinated people, if you travel, or if there's an outbreak in your local area.
BumRushDaShow
(128,856 posts)and saw the last MMR I had (at least recorded in the little blue book my parents kept for us) was 1969. I asked my PCO about it in March and he said he could just write out a script to have a pharmacy do it. I would rather he do it.... IMHO.
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)Five years ago, there was another measles outbreak, so I had an MMR booster just before going to Disneyland and attending a Doctor Who convention.
Javaman
(62,517 posts)They asked that anyone wanting to see the baby must first have their shot.
I thought that really smart of them.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)dem in texas
(2,674 posts)I had the measles as a child and back in the 1960's, just before the measles vaccine was available, my oldest (5 years old) came down with the measles. I just as I was bringing home our 2-day old infant girl. Both of my older (ages 5 and 3) came down with the measles, but the newborn did not the virus. Doctors told me the newborn would be immune and that was so.
The immunity was because of me having the measles, not from a vaccine; it must be different.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)Passive immunity to measles, mumps and rubella can last for up to a year, which is why the MMR vaccine is given just after your baby's first birthday.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)but I know they recommend that any baby in the vicinity of an outbreak to got an MMR at 6 mos, and then two more at the regular times. NYC has already implemented this for certain neighborhoods.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)But our doctor was sensitive to our concerns and worked with us on my son's immunization shots decades ago. We broke up the MMR bomb and metered them out over an extended period of time, long before he interacted with other children.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)in 2010 because my DIL would not let anyone who had not received a whooping cough booster see my youngest grandson when he was tiny.
She was adamant and I respect her for it.
As for measles, I had the disease, which we used to call the "Red Measles," in the early 1950s. According to this article, I should be OK, but will verify that with my GP. I had the "German measles" or "three-day measles" (rubella), when I was 20, as there was an outbreak in the area where I lived in 1964. At that time, there was no vaccine for rubella.
I remember being quite ill with rubella. But at least I was not pregnant, thank heavens. Many of those who were had children with birth defects, e.g., deafness, etc.
Those who refuse to vaccinate their children or themselves are literally abominations, IMO. They are Deplorables to the nth power.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)in the 1950s, so apparently should have the antibodies.
But I will follow my doctor's recommendation.
IMO, anyone who does NOT vaccinate their children, or themselves if it is applicable, is criminally negligent.
Period.
murielm99
(30,733 posts)they checked my immunity levels. I had a very high immunity level to measles. I had them when I was a kid.
I had chickenpox, too, so I got the shingles vaccine a few years ago. I understand that the immunity level the vaccine provides is not very high. It is better than nothing.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)It has 91% immunity. It is recommended for age 50 and over. Its a 2 part. You get the injections 2-6 months apart.
There wasnt even a waiting list. I got the first one on Thursday. Im still getting over it . I have never ached so bad in my life, but Im going to get the second injection in a few months because Ive already had shingles twice. Oh, and of course its not cheap, but my insurance is covering it in full.
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)Here's what I learned when my son was growing up in the 70s: there's more than one kind of measles.
I guess some people (not doctors) used to call roseola "three-day measles" because it wasn't considered as dangerous as the "German measles." I'm pretty sure German measles is the high-temp one that most parents and doctors fear, and it's very contagious among children. In the early 70s my son got roseola and the pediatrician told me not to worry about it. Just watch his temperature and keep him warm and hydrated.
I had never heard of roseola before that, and I'm pretty sure I had the German measles as a kid. Maybe my son received my immunity to them at birth, I don't know. By the way I haven't heard the term "German measles" for probably 40 years.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)are all the same form of measles. There's a more severe form (rubeola) sometimes called (7,8,10) or 9 day measles.
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)That's what I was explaining in my earlier post. The German measles (rubella) lasts about 2 weeks, not 3 days, but that may include the incubation period. It has a danger of high fever in which some patients might need to be hospitalized.
Roseola has the lower temperature, red rash on the face and body, and nobody dies from it, as far as I know. Both are considered childhood diseases that give lifetime immunity to survivors.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)see below.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)but I believe that rubella is the "German measles" and yes, although it doesn't last as long as THE measles, it can be serious in its consequences, especially to others. See https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/rubella/symptoms-causes/syc-20377310
Rubella is not the same as measles (rubeola), though the two illnesses do share some characteristics, including the red rash. However, rubella is caused by a different virus than measles, and is neither as infectious nor usually as severe as measles.
The measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, usually given to children in the United States twice before they reach school age, is highly effective in preventing rubella.
Roseola appears to be an entirely different disease and is generally not serious. See https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/roseola/symptoms-causes/syc-20377283
Two common strains of the herpes virus cause roseola. The condition typically causes several days of fever, followed by a rash.
Some children develop only a very mild case of roseola and never show any clear indication of illness, while others experience the full range of signs and symptoms.
Roseola typically isn't serious. Rarely, a very high fever can result in complications. Treatment of roseola includes bed rest, fluids and medications to reduce fever.
THE measles, aka rubeola, is the really bad one. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857
Also called rubeola, measles can be serious and even fatal for small children. While death rates have been falling worldwide as more children receive the measles vaccine, the disease still kills more than 100,000 people a year, most under the age of 5.
As a result of high vaccination rates in general, measles hasn't been widespread in the United States for more than a decade. The United States averaged about 60 cases of measles a year from 2000 to 2010, but the average number of cases jumped to 205 a year in recent years. Most of these cases originate outside the country and occurred in people who were unvaccinated or who didn't know whether or not they had been vaccinated.
The terms are similar and can lead to confusion.
But the most important thing is that ALL individuals, unless there are specific medical conditions as defined by a legitimate medical doctor to the contrary, MUST receive the MMR vaccine.
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)There is some confusion over these diseases, I know I'm not the only one. My son was only 2 or 3 when he got roseola, and he already had the MMR vaccination.
I am frightened that some parents think the vaccinations are somehow optional. No they aren't optional if you care about the health and safety of your children!
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)If one develops an immunity to a disease, it is not automatically passed on to one's children.
sdfernando
(4,930 posts)I would have been vaccinated between '62 & '64....military brat so vaccines were always done and on schedule or no school for you!...probably need the booster.
Had Chicken Pox twice, which is pretty rare, but still don't think that reduces chances of getting Shingles, so I'll chat with him about that too.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Im 53 and have read about some peoples loss of immunity as they get older. We travel a lot and live in a tourist haven so figured it was better safe than sorry. The wife had one in 2015. We should be good to go for the rest of our lives.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)my shot records were lost when I left for college. I had to get a bunch of vaccines during the summer. Yes, that was quite a few years back but not as far back as early childhood. So I don't know if I should do a titer test to see if I'm protected or just go ahead and get a new vaccine. I'm thinking a new vaccine can't hurt, right? I work with young children part-time now so I do boosters for other things.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Social media is your enemy when otherwise simple decisions are in front of you.
I walked in. 10 minutes later walked out. Good to go.
dem in texas
(2,674 posts)We lived in Anchorage in the 1970's and there was a diphtheria outbreak that started in Copper Center school. There were deaths of some of the lunchroom workers who were older. It was said that they lost their immunity from the vaccine given earlier in their lives. The state went all out and opened the schools at night so everyone could get a renewal vaccination.
Way back there was only a vaccine for diphtheria. It was not until around 46 or 47 that the combined shot became available.
I will never forget when a neighbor's baby had whopping cough and could not breathe. There was no 911 then so my mother rushed the baby and her mother to the hospital. She was about 18 months old and luckily, she survived. I am still friends with her and her sisters to this day, now were all old ladies..
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)Did anybody else get a vaccination with a type of "pressure gun" they used to use on recruits in the military? They used them on us in kindergarten and said they would be less painful than needles, but that was not true at all!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)Not too bad, if you could relax the muscle and not flinch. It was not easy to relax in that assembly line of prods and pokes. Some were bleeding, probably from flinching during the shot. I hope they got rid of those stupid guns.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)except for my annual pneumonia prevention. I was just thinking it is time for me to call by pharmacy to determine if they are still offering vaccinations for measles.
I may need a booster for all my childhood immunizations.
LibFarmer
(772 posts)Adults are actually more prone to develop encephalitis from measles than children.
Raine
(30,540 posts)also had chicken pox, had all childhood diseases. I'm not worried.