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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,183 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:02 PM May 2019

Trump officials to challenge authority of judges to issue national injunctions

Source: The Hill

Vice President Pence on Wednesday announced that the Trump administration will challenge the ability of federal district court judges to issue nation-wide injunctions.

Pence argued to supporters at an event hosted by the conservative Federalist Society that the Trump administration has been “unfairly” targeted by injunctions issued by lower courts.

The vice president said that in the coming days, administration officials will seek pathways to put the issue before the Supreme Court.

“So I say to all those gathered here, for the sake of our liberty, our security, our prosperity and the separation of powers, this era of judicial activism must come to an end,” Pence said. “The Supreme Court of the United States must clarify that district judges can decide no more than the cases before them.”



Read more: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/442787-trump-admin-to-challenge-authority-of-district-judges-to-issue

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Trump officials to challenge authority of judges to issue national injunctions (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 OP
Maybe if the Trump admin would stop issuing illegal orders DBoon May 2019 #1
Serious challenge to judicial independence and our Constitutional form of sinkingfeeling May 2019 #2
... a dictator. NotHardly May 2019 #8
What will it take for Republicans in the Senate to turn against him? DavidDvorkin May 2019 #3
No. They're Russian to the core. ananda May 2019 #10
A loss in 2020 The Mouth May 2019 #11
Only if the Senate flips to a Democratic majority. imo saidsimplesimon May 2019 #29
Seriously? atreides1 May 2019 #16
Repub. Senator Richard Burr just did dixiegrrrrl May 2019 #21
Maybe it's just a gimmick, but let's hope it's a major break in the wall of evil. DavidDvorkin May 2019 #22
We need to seek some of those pathways to the SC also! bluestarone May 2019 #4
Face Palm. ! BootinUp May 2019 #5
Pense.....STFU..you know nothing trumphumper.. asiliveandbreathe May 2019 #6
Kick dalton99a May 2019 #7
K&R Solly Mack May 2019 #9
This is getting serious. As a whole, Americans have been lulled by KPN May 2019 #12
You know there are Trump supporters that I have talked to INdemo May 2019 #17
Yup. That's why Pence was railing in a speech today about the threats to "freedom, prosperity and KPN May 2019 #18
Good to know Pence is as equally dictatorial as Orange Julius. I knew he was a Christo- Evolve Dammit May 2019 #13
How about I_have_had_enough May 2019 #19
I like it! Evolve Dammit May 2019 #31
Trump wants absolute power duforsure May 2019 #14
"There is no Republican primary" - DT 5/8/19 pat_k May 2019 #24
Separation of powers? Pence is an idiot. LiberalFighter May 2019 #15
This won't fly. Even the SC will knock this down for a host of reasons. machoneman May 2019 #20
This reads more like Trump's stupid statements to nowhere jgmiller May 2019 #23
not good at all. riversedge May 2019 #25
Effing Federalists! Zoonart May 2019 #26
Pence' Remarks at the Federalist Society's Seventh Annual Executive Branch Review Conference mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 #27
This is a dumb idea Gothmog May 2019 #28
Trump is shooting for the moon. He is making his move. Time to impeach. Nitram May 2019 #30

DBoon

(22,397 posts)
1. Maybe if the Trump admin would stop issuing illegal orders
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:04 PM
May 2019

the courts would stop issuing nationwide sanctions

sinkingfeeling

(51,471 posts)
2. Serious challenge to judicial independence and our Constitutional form of
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:06 PM
May 2019

government. Wonder what they call a president who ignores Congress and rules by EO? Is that an activist president?

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
16. Seriously?
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:22 PM
May 2019

Even if Trump shot one of Grassely's grandchildren...old man Chuck would be on his knees asking for Trump, to tea bag him!!!


So, no!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Repub. Senator Richard Burr just did
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:48 PM
May 2019

when his Senate Intelligence Committee subpoenaed Donald Trump Jr today.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. Pense.....STFU..you know nothing trumphumper..
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:17 PM
May 2019

for the sake of our liberty, our security, our prosperity and the separation of powers, this era of judicial activism must come to an end - and now want to handcuff judges???? Let's see how that flies.....

KPN

(15,649 posts)
12. This is getting serious. As a whole, Americans have been lulled by
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:29 PM
May 2019

decades of relative stability in the rule of law. Hell, a century plus! Most Americans are not paying attention and do not fully understand what is happening to our real liberty, freedom and democracy because of being lulled. Even those who support Trump do not recognize this for what it is.

Pence rails about the threats to “liberty, security, prosperity and desperation of powers” in this “era of judicial activism” all while he, tRump and the rest of these thugs threaten our liberty, etc, via a stacked SC established for the sole purpose of judicial activism”. The hypocrisy and projection are appalling.

These are dangerous days. Will Americans rise to defend our Constitution or unknowingly aid and abet with vacuous complacence?

Me? I’m ready and want to rumble.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
17. You know there are Trump supporters that I have talked to
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:38 PM
May 2019

that absolutely have no clue. They hear shit like what Barr is putting out and move on and never hear the details about the obstruction of justice.
When Hitler spread his propaganda people bowed to him and that is what Trump wants.
Trump is following Hitlers play book to a T.

Its scary.....I live in a solid red county in Indiana and I would not be comfortable with a bumper sticker reading "Impeach Trump now "and park in a Wal-Mart parking lot or a grocery store lot because I could come out of store and find a broken window or something..... I'm serious.

Here's the deal though..If this would have happen back in the 70's with Nixon Thousands would have been in the Streets Republicans and Democrats... We are dealing with Russian propaganda on the social networks and propaganda from the Repuke we have legislative branch fighting back and that too is scary..if the SCOTUS sides with Barr and Trump its over.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
18. Yup. That's why Pence was railing in a speech today about the threats to "freedom, prosperity and
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:06 PM
May 2019

separate powers in government” or words to that effect from “an activist judiciary”. Smokescreen projection. Appallingly hypocritical.

We could well be doomed as a free democracy.

Evolve Dammit

(16,760 posts)
13. Good to know Pence is as equally dictatorial as Orange Julius. I knew he was a Christo-
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:30 PM
May 2019

Fascist; but thought he had some respect for the rule of law upon which our country is based. WRONG! Treasonous and holding party over country. FU Pence.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. Trump wants absolute power
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:30 PM
May 2019

no. Rule of law,only trump justice,and he ll bypass Congress even all the republicans,then he ll ignore the judicial branch, and all judges decisions. If trump isn't t stopped soon we will not be a Democracy anymore. Trump supporters will then see how cruel and corrupt he really is then, and it will be too late for them.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
24. "There is no Republican primary" - DT 5/8/19
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:12 AM
May 2019
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7008065/Trump-campaign-says-president-NOT-debate-Bill-Weld-GOP-challengers.html

President Donald Trump will not debate former Gov. William Weld or other Republican challengers because 'there is no Republican primary,' his campaign declared, defying other potential challengers.


One step away from "There is no election"...

machoneman

(4,010 posts)
20. This won't fly. Even the SC will knock this down for a host of reasons.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:18 PM
May 2019

Better, this proves that the the actions of lower level courts has REALLY pinched Trumpy's efforts to subvert laws, the Constitution and long standing precedents. Great I say!

jgmiller

(395 posts)
23. This reads more like Trump's stupid statements to nowhere
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:11 AM
May 2019

than anything real. Federal district court judges were created as an extension of the supreme court because SC judges no longer had time to ride their "circuit". Which means they have the same power on a national level. Even without that the logic is silly so district court judge can only put an injuction on things in his district that would mean there is no such thing as the federal level.

It's just more babel for his supporters and the fools that keep giving him moeny.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
27. Pence' Remarks at the Federalist Society's Seventh Annual Executive Branch Review Conference
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:17 AM
May 2019
REMARKS

Remarks by Vice President Pence at the Federalist Society’s Seventh Annual Executive Branch Review Conference
Issued on: May 8, 2019

The Mayflower Hotel
Washington, D.C.

4:20 P.M. EDT

{snip}

Unfortunately, as you’ve no doubt reflected on today, the kind of government control that our Founders were concerned about is too often exerted by the administrative state in this country. And it’s been emerging in recent years in the federal judiciary in the form of nationwide injunctions.

These orders are issued by federal district court judges on a broad range of issues — from national security to immigration, from border security to healthcare reform. And these orders prevent the entire Executive Branch from enforcing a statute, a regulation, or a policy on a nationwide basis. And they apply everywhere, to everyone, granting relief even to those who are not parties to a case.

As Justice Thomas wrote last year in a decision upholding President Trump’s ability to enforce our immigration laws against nationwide injunctions, Justice Thomas said nationwide injunctions, in his words, “take a toll on the federal court system — preventing legal questions from percolating… [and] encouraging forum shopping, and making every case a national emergency for the courts and…the Executive Branch.”

It’s remarkable to think a Supreme Court justice has to convince four of their colleagues to uphold a nationwide injunction, but a single district court judge can issue one, effectively preventing the duly elected President of the United States from fulfilling what he believes is a constitutional duty.

This obstruction at the district level is unprecedented. Studies show that there’s not a single example of a nationwide injunction in the first 175 years of our nation’s history.

Although we received some good news last night that the Ninth Circuit stayed an injunction to allow our administration to continue our “remain in Mexico” policy, addressing the crisis at our southern border, the truth is, our administration has been unfairly hit with more nationwide injunctions than the first 40 American presidents combined.

Nationwide injunctions issued by federal judges prevent the Executive Branch from acting, compromising our national security by obstructing the lawful ability of the President to stop threats to the homeland, where he sees them.

These injunctions undermine the rule of law and the separation of powers that are central to our nation’s founding, that lie at the very heart of our Constitution.

And so I say to all those gathered here, for the sake of our liberty, our security, our prosperity, and the separation of powers: This era of judicial activism must come to an end. (Applause.)

The Supreme Court of the United States must clarify that district judges can decide no more than the cases before them. And it’s imperative that we restore the historic tradition that district judges do not set policy for the whole nation.

In the days ahead, our administration will seek opportunities to put this very question before the Supreme Court to ensure that decisions affecting every American are made either by those elected to represent the American people or by the highest court in the land. (Applause.)

{snip}
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