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Tactical Peek

(1,208 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:58 PM May 2019

Nadler says Mueller will not testify next week

Source: The Hill

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y) said Friday that special counsel Robert Mueller will not be testifying before his panel next week.

Nadler told reporters that the committee is still negotiating over his testimony with the Justice Department and Mueller but expects him to appear.

“He will come at some point. If it’s necessary, we will subpoena him,” Nadler said.



Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/443128-nadler-says-mueller-will-not-be-testifying-next-week

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Nadler says Mueller will not testify next week (Original Post) Tactical Peek May 2019 OP
Mueller needs to be rid of the DOJ employee thingie first. ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #1
They're going to ask him about his kids or his last vacation destination? FBaggins May 2019 #6
He won't have any restraints related to DOJ employment upon him Progressive Jones May 2019 #37
That has been frequently posted... but is entirely wrong. FBaggins May 2019 #40
Perhaps they are waiting until 2naSalit May 2019 #2
He should resign and... Mike Nelson May 2019 #3
You'd think so, especially if he is upset about the way Barr handled his report. jalan48 May 2019 #5
Why would he be upset? rockfordfile May 2019 #43
If Barr didn't truthfully portray his findings. jalan48 May 2019 #44
Hmmm Nuggets May 2019 #4
If I made up a list of American patriots, watoos May 2019 #8
Rod Rosenstein hand picked Mueller Nuggets May 2019 #11
Of course Mueller is better than Barr. Qutzupalotl May 2019 #15
No shit... he didn't have to write any of the things he did in the report... Chakaconcarne May 2019 #20
Anyone hear Hickenlooper on his plan True Blue American May 2019 #16
How could it be non-political? former9thward May 2019 #35
I am with you and I said it as well Perseus May 2019 #18
What can they do? Nuggets May 2019 #25
He might refused to leave, but he'll be physically removed, one way or another. nt Progressive Jones May 2019 #38
your opinion, about Mueller, flies in the face of facts. Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #31
Actually your opinion flies in the face Nuggets May 2019 #32
you have my response confused with someone elses. Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #33
No Nuggets May 2019 #34
hmmmmmmm Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #39
Who cares if he's a career military man? Nuggets May 2019 #41
Well you seem to have all the answers Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2019 #42
I'm so tired of this. kacekwl May 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author watoos May 2019 #9
Not everyone Nuggets May 2019 #26
bummer nt yaesu May 2019 #10
dammit samnsara May 2019 #12
Of course not LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #13
Yes, "if we have to"...well Nadler, guess what? YOU HAVE TO! NOW! Perseus May 2019 #19
+1000 LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #22
Two days ago Nadler said Mueller can testify regardless of DOJ BigmanPigman May 2019 #14
I think Mueller is going to retire and is securing his pension benefits, etc. before doing any monmouth4 May 2019 #17
I reckon Rosenstein faced the same fate at some point.... Chakaconcarne May 2019 #21
Mueller retired from the FBI in 2013. Cattledog May 2019 #27
That "poor guy" McCabe Nuggets May 2019 #29
Mueller is 74. former9thward May 2019 #36
Darn I was not going to work that day to watch on TV. kimbutgar May 2019 #23
We were told this was a done deal. ''at some point'' ain't gonna get it. YOHABLO May 2019 #24
Subpoena him. he's 74 and forgetting shit by the day. Kurt V. May 2019 #28
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #30

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
6. They're going to ask him about his kids or his last vacation destination?
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:23 PM
May 2019

Not being a DOJ employee doesn't mean that he's free to give the committee what it wants.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
40. That has been frequently posted... but is entirely wrong.
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:58 AM
May 2019

Leaving DOJ provides him with few additional options. He can’t bring an unredacted copy of the report. He can’t discuss ongoing prosecutions. He certainly can’t discuss grand jury information or counterintelligence/classified matters.

He could still be useful. He might say something like Comey’s personal belief that someone other than a president would be indicted. But “won’t have any restraints” is simply incorrect.

2naSalit

(86,524 posts)
2. Perhaps they are waiting until
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:00 PM
May 2019

He's not on the DoJ payroll anymore, which should be about one more week, maybe two.

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
4. Hmmm
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:16 PM
May 2019

Where is that person who gave me a belittling lecture on what tentative means when I said
“Mueller just left himself a way out of testifying”?

Trump is just buying time! Meanwhile we all hear more and more what a straight arrow and honorable patriotic man Mueller is over and over and over and over again on DU.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. If I made up a list of American patriots,
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:31 PM
May 2019

Bob Mueller would be in the top tier. Mueller may have a reason to stay employed by justice, maybe he has more work to do? Don't forget, Mueller had a mole in his investigation, Rod Rosenstein.

We don't need to bash Mueller, that's the Republican's #1 game plan right now, because when he testifies all they will have left to do is throw mud at him. I would hope that we would leave the bashing of Mueller to Republicans.

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
11. Rod Rosenstein hand picked Mueller
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:02 PM
May 2019

There’s no reason to believe Mueller is any better than Rosenstein, or Comey, or McCabe, or Barr. Not one.

How do you know the Republican game plan isn’t to get Dems to talk about what straight arrow he is?

That’s what they did with Comey
We still see people here praising him and declaring him honorable, yet he went against protocol to berate Hillary’s supposed “extreme carelessness”,

Dems cheered his honesty anyway because he found nothing to be indict her for.

then Comey wrote a letter to “reopen the case” then lied about how long it takes to cross check the emails found on Weiner’s phone. None of that is straight arrow or honorable.

Dems see his corruption. And Republicans bludgeon us with the straight arrow bit.

Then somehow Coney instantly becomes a straight arrow again.

It’s Ludicrous.

Qutzupalotl

(14,300 posts)
15. Of course Mueller is better than Barr.
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:05 PM
May 2019

If he weren't, the Republicans would be happy to let him testify to Congress like they were with Barr.

Mueller laid out a strong case for impeachment. Barr let Bush Sr. off the hook and spun the hell out of the Mueller report, hoping no one would read it.

Night and day as far as I'm concerned.

Chakaconcarne

(2,442 posts)
20. No shit... he didn't have to write any of the things he did in the report...
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:52 PM
May 2019

He could have made Barr's life easy.... but he didn't.

It's way too early and premature to be hammering on Mueller...

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
18. I am with you and I said it as well
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:44 PM
May 2019

I would not be surprised anymore if the "straight shooter" shoots at the people now, Rosenstein did, and we all though he was also a "Straight Shooter".

This is unbelievable, this is scary now. We are heading to a total chaos, those who said "It Can't Happen Here" will be rudely awaken to find out they were wrong.

Damn, this is so wrong...and I hate to say it but, Democrats do not seem to be doing anything besides the blah, blah, blah.

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
25. What can they do?
Fri May 10, 2019, 06:02 PM
May 2019

Trump and the GOP leadership disregard laws every day. If we follow all the rules and they do whatever they want without consequences, how do people think that will end?
They seem to be seeking a violent end that they can watch from their tvs. Watch their angered biker gangs and militias rush into Democratic strong holds or whatever to take control.

What should we do if 2020 ends the with the same cheating or he refuses to leave?


We need to quit depending on any Republican to do the right thing. We crossed that bridge long ago.


Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
31. your opinion, about Mueller, flies in the face of facts.
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:41 AM
May 2019

It suggests Mueller didn't do his best or was bought off or some such thing. The R's are masters at playing politics with EVERYTHING. The D's not so much. The R's, even though Mueller is one of theirs, are different from him. He isn't an elected Senator or Rep. They will manipulate him too to get what they want. It appears you are convinced he is corrupt along with Comey. I disagree.

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
32. Actually your opinion flies in the face
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

of all of the facts I posted on the previous 2 comments on this thread.
You, however, nor anyone else has not listed one fact that shows what an honorable man he supposedly is — your opinions based on ?
Feelings? Wishes?

Plus the continuing odd use of the watergate narrative.

Leon Jaworski, prepared a report with his findings, known as the "road map," to assist Congress with possible impeachment proceedings to remove Nixon from office.

So since we’re using past examples :
the stonewalling worked for Reagan and Republicans . Given all the time in the world to shred documents and refuse to turn them over. How’d that work out?

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
33. you have my response confused with someone elses.
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:04 PM
May 2019

I didn't mention Watergate. My opinion on Mueller's honor? Going, voluntarily to Vietnam and seeing action, could be one thing that tells me the kind of man he is.

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
34. No
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:38 PM
May 2019

I’m just pointing at more facts. Too many here keep pointing to water gate as proof this all going to end with trump in handcuffs.?

I pointed to how the news helped Republicans.



As to you evidence Mueller is honorable because he went to Vietnam
“Mueller is one of theirs, are different from him. He isn't an elected Senator or Rep. They will manipulate him too to get what they want.”


I remind you: Oliver North decorated Vietnam War hero.
General Flynn also a decorated War Veteran.

They are “honorable” too according to your premise.

Perhaps better metrics are needed?

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
39. hmmmmmmm
Sun May 12, 2019, 01:26 AM
May 2019

I understand your position, still don't think it has merit. Mueller was not a career military man either. What did you expect from his investigation? He can't wave a magic wand and make Trump go away. Also, did you notice Barr's role in all this?

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
41. Who cares if he's a career military man?
Sun May 12, 2019, 02:08 PM
May 2019

Moving the goalposts doesn’t change all the facts I’ve posted.
As everyone will, think what you want , as will I and
I will continue to point out the naïveté of that opinion until their is actual evidence otherwise.

Response to kacekwl (Reply #7)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
13. Of course not
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:57 PM
May 2019

AND NO PASSION OR ANGER.
watching the video its like a family court lawyer droning on in a kind of defeatist sounding monotone on some minor procedure. He reminds me more of Gil Gunderson of the Simpsons than the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee dealing with a corrupt rouge President.

"Uh...I certainly hope we hear from Mueller...ah...oh...yes...eventually we will hear from Mueller...because we will...uh.subpoena him if we have to... um...."

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
19. Yes, "if we have to"...well Nadler, guess what? YOU HAVE TO! NOW!
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:47 PM
May 2019

This is so frustrating!

Not many of you have lived through similar situations, and to me, the picture is a rerun...I hope I am 100% wrong, but things are going to get very ugly very soon if Democrats don't get their balls out of the jar where they stored them.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
14. Two days ago Nadler said Mueller can testify regardless of DOJ
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:05 PM
May 2019

employment. I want to know why Mueller isn't volunteering to testify and why he is making Nadler subpoena him. Is this part of the legal game playing and dragging it out in the courts?

monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
17. I think Mueller is going to retire and is securing his pension benefits, etc. before doing any
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:41 PM
May 2019

appearances. Remember the poor guy who was fired and lost his pension? Mueller will have none of that, to be sure.

Chakaconcarne

(2,442 posts)
21. I reckon Rosenstein faced the same fate at some point....
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:55 PM
May 2019

He was being threatened by Trump, they had meeting and then all was good... remember that?

 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
29. That "poor guy" McCabe
Fri May 10, 2019, 06:15 PM
May 2019

who purposely held onto Weiner’s mobile phone emails until the 11th hour when Comey supposedly reopened the case against Hillary?


On Sept. 26, 2016, as part of a sex crimes investigation, an FBI agent in New York found hundreds of thousands of emails on a laptop belonging to former Rep. Anthony Weiner, who was married at the time to Huma Abedin, a top Clinton aide. Two days later, the head of the New York FBI office told dozens of FBI executives, including Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, that the laptop had 140,000 emails possibly relevant to the Clinton investigation.

The next day, on Sept. 29, the New York office told several members of the FBI’s Clinton investigation team that the emails included BlackBerry messages.

That was a red flag, because although the FBI had closed the Clinton investigation in July 2016, it had never found old messages from her BlackBerry account, which theoretically, was the most likely place to contain evidence of criminal intent.

The laptop was on a list of topics discussed by McCabe and other FBI officials on Oct. 3 and 4. And then … nothing happened.
“After October 4, we found no evidence that anyone associated with the [Clinton] investigation, including the entire leadership team at FBI Headquarters, took any action on the Weiner laptop issue until the week of October 24,” says the report.

Headquarters followed up only after being prompted on Oct. 21 by the New York office. Not until Oct. 27 did FBI officials brief FBI Director James Comey about the laptop.


By then, the bureau’s technical experts thought there was too little time before the election to go through the emails and determine whether any were incriminating. So Comey sent a letter to Congress disclosing what he could: that “the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation.” Clinton sank in the polls.

More than a week later, just two days before the election, the FBI announced that it had searched the emails enough to know that they wouldn’t change its decision not to recommend her prosecution. But the damage was done.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/fbi-ignored-anthony-weiners-laptop-and-it-may-have-cost-hillary-clinton-the-election.html



former9thward

(31,973 posts)
36. Mueller is 74.
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:25 PM
May 2019

He has been working for the federal government since 1976 -- 43 years. He qualified for a full federal pension long ago.

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