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highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:24 PM May 2019

Rudy Giuliani Says He's Not Going to the Ukraine

Last edited Sat May 11, 2019, 01:11 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: Mediaite

Speaking with Fox News' Shannon Bream on Friday night, President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani said he is not going to the Ukraine after all.

Giuliani told Bream that in order to avoid any political suggestion, "I will step back and just watch it unfold."

-snip-

Giuliani then suggested it was actually a setup.

"No trip because I believe I was walking into a bunch of people, one of whom was already has found to be involved on this, and I think this was a setup. The whole thing, by the way, is a setup. From the very beginning. That is what you will find," Giuliani opined. "It goes back to at least January of 2016 when they decided that they should deal with the Ukraine. You're also going to find that some of the Steele dossier memoranda was written in the Ukraine. After all, Steele didn't go to Russia for nine years. How could he have written a memorandum about Russia if he hadn't been there for nine years?"

-snip-



Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/rudy-giuliani-says-hes-not-going-to-the-ukraine/



Video at the link.


I posted about this after first hearing about it on CNN minutes ago.



Editing again to add a link to the CNN video I saw first, which included a part of the Fox intervoew Mediaite didn't have, where Giuliani smeared the people he'd been planning to meet with in Ukraine (described as "a group of people who are enemies of the president, in some cases enemies of the US" ):

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/05/11/giuliani-not-making-ukraine-trip-fox-news-don-lemon-ctn-sot-vpx.cnn



Editing again to add the link to Fox News video of the complete interview, if anyone wants to see it. Rudy was ranting away, hyper and repeating himself a lot.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6035385372001/#sp=show-clips
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Rudy Giuliani Says He's Not Going to the Ukraine (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2019 OP
Pucker power is the power of the hour. Xipe Totec May 2019 #1
Trump and his cadre of fascists nincompoops are master's of propaganda. olegramps May 2019 #21
Did he get too much flak for attempted public ratfucking? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #2
According to a British paper, the Ukrainian president wasn't going to meet with him: highplainsdem May 2019 #3
He doesn't need to go, he already got everybody talking about it EarlG May 2019 #4
Yep. It's a tried and true propaganda tool. n/t Eyeball_Kid May 2019 #7
I agree that was one of the goals. But these clowns are so incompetent I suspect Giuliani really highplainsdem May 2019 #8
Incompetent? Yes, but I smell money, lots of money! I'll bet he hoped to bribe senior Ukrainian... machoneman May 2019 #22
But isn't pressuring a foreign government Sugarcoated May 2019 #9
Isn't he number two at lying? LiberalFighter May 2019 #5
Well, he's number two for sure... thegoose May 2019 #6
I guess that means he's going. JohnnyRingo May 2019 #10
He found out... SergeStorms May 2019 #11
He probably opted for the July 4 Junket to Moscow. So many R's go, it must be really nice. Midnight Writer May 2019 #12
My reading comprehension must be slipping. His statement makes absolutely no sense at all to me. NBachers May 2019 #13
It's not you. Qutzupalotl May 2019 #14
Damn! Roy Rolling May 2019 #15
Oops - I should have looked at your post first. See below. LOL. Vinca May 2019 #17
That's nice. Now he can go straight back to the crypt. Vinca May 2019 #16
Or maybe just back to the Manhattan in the New York. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2019 #19
Giuliani has contracted James O"Keefe and Project Veritas to go undercover in Kiev GreydeeThos May 2019 #18
Ukraine is hardly pro-Russian lanlady May 2019 #20
True! Putin's lap dog Trump and his evil minions.... machoneman May 2019 #23

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
21. Trump and his cadre of fascists nincompoops are master's of propaganda.
Sat May 11, 2019, 10:59 AM
May 2019

They are driven by a combination of hatred and insatiable lust for power and money. I would remind people that the NY Fire Fighters hold the Ghoul accountable for the deaths of their fellow fire fighters. He authorized the purchase of substandard communication equipment that was proven worthless in the attack. In contrast to the equipment used by the police department who lost no people because of effective communication, the firefighters were virtually helpless to warn them to evacuate the site.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
2. Did he get too much flak for attempted public ratfucking?
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:30 PM
May 2019

Don't worry; he'll figure out some other way to do it.

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
3. According to a British paper, the Ukrainian president wasn't going to meet with him:
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142315096

That story was published several hours ago, but I didn't run across it till this evening.

EarlG

(21,934 posts)
4. He doesn't need to go, he already got everybody talking about it
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019

Which I suspect was the goal all along...

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
8. I agree that was one of the goals. But these clowns are so incompetent I suspect Giuliani really
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:24 AM
May 2019

thought he'd find something important and be viewed as a hero.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
22. Incompetent? Yes, but I smell money, lots of money! I'll bet he hoped to bribe senior Ukrainian...
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:55 AM
May 2019

officials or their spy/police agencies to create fake 'evidence'.

But, I do also believe that most foreign government types are way too savvy (unlike Trumpboy's minions) to fall for this trick. Would many want the moola? Sure, but they also take the long view of only 2 more years of Trump's totally unstable regime, have seen Putin's influence do the dog-chain pull on him and perhaps mist importantly, know the Democrats could unleash the CIA, NSA, FBI on them later to prove that cash made the difference. The backlash under any Democratic President could be both swift and fierce.

Sugarcoated

(7,716 posts)
9. But isn't pressuring a foreign government
Sat May 11, 2019, 01:13 AM
May 2019

To commit a crime in our country, pressuring them to do it, doesn't that make their colluding the story thus overshadowing the smear, taking the wind out of it?

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
11. He found out...
Sat May 11, 2019, 01:53 AM
May 2019

that's there's absolutely nothing to this story, so they're trying to save a little face by being "nice guys" and not pursuing it. Besides, they already planted the seed in the Trump cult's garbage addled minds. Trump TV will take it from here.

Qutzupalotl

(14,286 posts)
14. It's not you.
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:29 AM
May 2019

“He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.”
— Groucho Marx

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
19. Or maybe just back to the Manhattan in the New York.
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:37 AM
May 2019

I doubt the people of Ukraine will miss his visit.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
18. Giuliani has contracted James O"Keefe and Project Veritas to go undercover in Kiev
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:36 AM
May 2019

Soon we will have the evidence documented with blurry black and white images taken by a shoe-camera and fountain pen microphone.

lanlady

(7,133 posts)
20. Ukraine is hardly pro-Russian
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:50 AM
May 2019

Why should its people welcome anyone from Putin's American fan club, eh Rudy?

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
23. True! Putin's lap dog Trump and his evil minions....
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:57 AM
May 2019

love the Russkies....meaning any true Ukrainian hates these fuckers.

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