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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:13 PM May 2019

Tom Cotton says sacrifice of Americans paying tariffs is "minimal" compared to those serving oversea

Source: CBS

As the U.S. and China inch closer to an all-out trade war, Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton says that the sacrifice Americans will pay for President Trump's tariffs are "minimal" compared to those serving overseas. President Trump has maintained that Americans would not be fronting the brunt of the cost for tariffs, but many, including the president's own economic adviser, say they will.

"There will be some sacrifices on the part of Americans, I grant you that, but I also would say that sacrifice is pretty minimal compared to the sacrifices that our soldiers make overseas that are fallen heroes that are laid to rest in Arlington make," Cotton told "CBS This Morning" when asked about the impact of tariffs on farmers in his own state of Arkansas.

Cotton, the author of "Sacred Duty: A Soldier's Tour at Arlington National Cemetery," said that in the long term, the goal is to make sure that the U.S. "remains preeminent as a global super power both in the economic and the security" worlds.

The price tag for that "preeminence" on the average American family, according to trade experts falls between $700 to $1,000.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-cotton-says-sacrifice-of-americans-paying-tariffs-is-minimal-compared-to-those-serving-overseas/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=67320048





What an odious pos.
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Tom Cotton says sacrifice of Americans paying tariffs is "minimal" compared to those serving oversea (Original Post) demmiblue May 2019 OP
Thanks for posting saidsimplesimon May 2019 #1
And just what might we be sacrificing for?.... Zoonart May 2019 #2
So , he should give us all money back like he did to the farmers duforsure May 2019 #3
What does the heck Cotton's remarks on serving overseas have to do w/ rumps' tariffs? NT SWBTATTReg May 2019 #4
Conflation. "Support the troops by ... overpaying for your socks?" lagomorph777 May 2019 #29
Tom, the sacrifice of your not being re-elected would be minimal badhair77 May 2019 #5
WTF? matt819 May 2019 #6
He's such a fake POS! Always yapping about his glorious sinkingfeeling May 2019 #7
Maybe a story on how happy farmers are to lose their farms dem4decades May 2019 #8
Another nutty GOPers . . . Iliyah May 2019 #9
wish I was in the land of...cotton. Not nt msongs May 2019 #10
Invested pensions of many seniors will leave them without income to live. NCjack May 2019 #11
The difference is Mr.Bill May 2019 #12
Sounds like a really lame/cheesy way to transition to talking about his new book mr_lebowski May 2019 #13
Cotton is a f**king moran. All they have to do is look at the stock market to realize what a still_one May 2019 #14
There's one massive difference between then and now jmowreader May 2019 #18
So was Hoover. lagomorph777 May 2019 #30
I am very hesitant in comparing Trump to Hoover jmowreader May 2019 #34
Yeah, Hoover sucked but he wasn't deliberately trying to destroy the country. lagomorph777 May 2019 #46
That statement is breathtaking in its hypocrisy Hekate May 2019 #15
Bates motel guy pamdb May 2019 #16
Non Sequitur modrepub May 2019 #17
Are there tariffs on ivankas shoes and clothes? Linda Ed May 2019 #19
Your Monday morning Non Sequitur.. Grins May 2019 #20
Trump's tariff IS a tax hike. So is his "tax cut." lagomorph777 May 2019 #31
Although The Troops is a standard GOP trump card... jmowreader May 2019 #21
Just another way to tax the only party to a tariff that won't make money off it: the middle and ... marble falls May 2019 #22
What a stupid thing to say. There's no comparison whatsoever. Vinca May 2019 #23
Stupid jerk! oasis May 2019 #24
These people have lost their fucking minds. BumRushDaShow May 2019 #25
Apples are red, Oranges are orange. elleng May 2019 #26
11-year-olds forced to give birth should be grateful... enki23 May 2019 #27
My son is overseas--his family is ALSO paying for those tariffs Maeve May 2019 #28
Now that's a really idiotic position to take patphil May 2019 #32
So Senator Dumbass, military families don't buy Chinese-made consumer goods? lanlady May 2019 #33
What the hell does that even mean? BlueStater May 2019 #35
The media is finally reporting that Trump LIED about his tariffs and now Cotton is doing damage riversedge May 2019 #36
Graph--the impact of Tariffs on consumer prices........... riversedge May 2019 #37
10 points for comparing apples to chainsaws Hong Kong Cavalier May 2019 #38
Apples and oranges you stupid son of a bitch.. Maxheader May 2019 #39
So is he contending that Turbineguy May 2019 #40
Well let's send Tom Cotton to China then Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #41
What the Fuck? JDC May 2019 #42
Somewhere a village is missing its idiot Politicub May 2019 #43
Thanks for the sack of false equivalence Cottonmouth. TeamPooka May 2019 #44
Ex-military folks love this stuff. Besides, many shop at base exchanges. No taxes there. YOHABLO May 2019 #45

Zoonart

(11,849 posts)
2. And just what might we be sacrificing for?....
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:15 PM
May 2019

the war effort. The war on America being waged by Donals Trump? WTAF?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. So , he should give us all money back like he did to the farmers
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:18 PM
May 2019

When they got screwed over from stupid dufus tricks that backfired too! Where's our refunds from stupid policies?

badhair77

(4,216 posts)
5. Tom, the sacrifice of your not being re-elected would be minimal
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:20 PM
May 2019

compared to the sacrifices that our soldiers make overseas.

The sacrifice of the orange one resigning would be minimal compared to the sacrifices that our soldiers make overseas.

Seriously, we could do this all day and I like the options I proposed better than paying tariff money.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
6. WTF?
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:27 PM
May 2019

This is beyond idiotic.

How do you have a rational discussion with people this fantastically stupid?

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
7. He's such a fake POS! Always yapping about his glorious
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:32 PM
May 2019

military and how much he (rich, spoiled, racist) sacrificed for the country.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
11. Invested pensions of many seniors will leave them without income to live.
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:59 PM
May 2019

Sen. Cotton minimizes their sacrifices to protect the riches of the rich.

Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
12. The difference is
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:00 PM
May 2019

the people serving overseas volunteered for it when they joined the military, and are given compensation they agreed to for doing so.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. Sounds like a really lame/cheesy way to transition to talking about his new book
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:08 PM
May 2019

about the sacrifices of our soldiers ... Pimping his book was likely the only reason he was on the broadcast to begin with.

still_one

(92,131 posts)
14. Cotton is a f**king moran. All they have to do is look at the stock market to realize what a
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:12 PM
May 2019

disaster an all out trade war is

It isn't just China either, European autos are now be threatened to be part of this

smoot hawley tariff act worked real well for Hoover, when he disregarded the financial experts who told him to veto it, and they f**king republicans are following the same script

I am to the point that Americans are getting exactly what they deserve.

The lessons were not learned from 2000, and in 2008 when we were on the brink of an economic implosion, President Obama and his administration pulled us back from the brink, and into recovery.


However, when 2016 came about, all was forgotten, and we are now facing as serious a problem as we did in 2008

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
18. There's one massive difference between then and now
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:38 PM
May 2019

The president we have now is completely incapable of doing what needs to be done to fix the looming disaster.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
34. I am very hesitant in comparing Trump to Hoover
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:12 PM
May 2019

Hoover was actually trying to help the US economy. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was designed to stimulate domestic production by making it more expensive to import than to manufacture here...and according to history, in the first few months the tariff was in operation it worked as advertised.

Unfortunately for anyone who likes tariffs, if ANYTHING goes wrong in the world - like the Austrian central bank collapsing - the whole thing goes to shit.

Today's Republican believes in "starve the beast" economics. They really, really, REALLY want to get rid of social programs. ALL social programs. They don't like food aid to the poor, cash aid to the poor, medical aid to the poor, government-funded health insurance for the elderly, government-funded retirement programs, ANYTHING. The whole intent of anything a Republican comes up with is to deplete the treasury so bad that the Democrats will knuckle under and say "fine, fine, you win, get rid of (insert name of program they want to destroy today)." (And then, naturally, they will go on every right-wing talk show and claim it was the Democrats who got rid of that program, and they'll repeat it incessantly so all the people the GOP just fucked will run straight to the polls and vote the Democrats out.)

Add to my list of campaign promises if I ever run for president: As your leader my first official act in office will be to declare the Republican National Committee a terrorist organization.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
46. Yeah, Hoover sucked but he wasn't deliberately trying to destroy the country.
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:02 PM
May 2019

Trump/Putin's goal is pretty obvious: Destroy America so Putin can rule the world.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
16. Bates motel guy
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:13 PM
May 2019

Who the fuck cares what the Bates motel guy says about anything. And what the hell does the ability to make living for ones family have to do with having been in the military? He's disgusting.

modrepub

(3,494 posts)
17. Non Sequitur
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:16 PM
May 2019

Have no idea what this Senator means. In his defense, looking at the comments sections for any articles on this subject really tells you most people have no idea how the economy works. They think if they raise prices on Chinese imports, instantaneously those items will be replace by American-made products and people will be employed in these instantaneous new industries.

I think we watch too much TV and play too many video games because people seem to be under this false impression that you can create an industry from thin air to replace something you wreck. China didn't become a manufacturing giant overnight, and much of our manufacturing base closed up shop in the late 90s and early 00s. It could come back but it will take lots of capital to rebuild and lots of training to get the right employees to work in these jobs. It ain't going to happen overnight. In the mean time, goods cost more, people loose their jobs (in shipping for example), and the economy will suffer. True capitalism minimizes costs to provide the goods people demand. All this other extraneous crap people are pushing (safe guarding trade secrets, keeping America's industrial base vital) isn't following capitalistic principles and will create market inefficiencies and waste resources in the long run.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
19. Are there tariffs on ivankas shoes and clothes?
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:42 PM
May 2019

Only the people who fell for the Mexico-will-pay-for-it gag will fall for the China-will-pay-for-it gag...The bobbleheads will fall in line of course,,,,,I posted yesterday that China would retaliate and more than likely make demands now for the loans they gave USA..

He can’t even get his friends on Wall Street to buy this nonsense:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/12/goldman-trump-tariff-costs-fall-entirely-on-us-businesses-households.html

Goldman Sachs said the cost of tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump last year against Chinese goods has fallen “entirely” on American businesses and households, with a greater impact on consumer prices than previously expected.

Grins

(7,212 posts)
20. Your Monday morning Non Sequitur..
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:44 PM
May 2019
"There will be some sacrifices on the part of Americans, I grant you that, but I also would say that sacrifice is pretty minimal compared to the sacrifices that our soldiers make." Cotton.

What about the sacrifices of children in cages. Tommy?

And it you really want to "Support Our Troops!!", you could....raise taxes....!

Why is this weasel on TV?

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
21. Although The Troops is a standard GOP trump card...
Mon May 13, 2019, 02:53 PM
May 2019

If I was a senator from a rice-growing State I wouldn’t be very happy about a trade war with China.

marble falls

(57,075 posts)
22. Just another way to tax the only party to a tariff that won't make money off it: the middle and ...
Mon May 13, 2019, 03:05 PM
May 2019

lower classes.

As a vet myself I think Cotton should be slapped for trivializing our service. This is about income redistribution and not a darn thing about any obligation to the Republic.

enki23

(7,787 posts)
27. 11-year-olds forced to give birth should be grateful...
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:11 PM
May 2019

for the larger sacrifice of soldiers who died for the right of Republicans to force them to give birth to their rapist's child.

This shit works for everything.

patphil

(6,169 posts)
32. Now that's a really idiotic position to take
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:47 PM
May 2019

But then it would be typical for Senator Cotton.
It's like comparing Soybeans and bullets.
Our soldiers get to both put their lives on the line, AND pay to higher cost of goods that result from a tariff, AND struggle to sell their farm products during a tariff war.
The real damage is to the manufacturing sector and the farmers. The individual price is fairly high for most American families, but the collective damage is to jobs in the affected industries.
And speaking of farmers, most family run farms don't have a lot of extra cash lying around to carry them over from year to year.
If the cost of farm equipment and other goods they need goes up, and they can't sell their crops...well, it could spell the loss of their farm.
You would think that someone who grew up on his family's cattle farm would have a better understanding of how hard it is for many farmers to stay solvent.
But then he is a republican, and...well there isn't a lot of concern for lower and middle class people there.

Patrick Phillips

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
33. So Senator Dumbass, military families don't buy Chinese-made consumer goods?
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:04 PM
May 2019

Most military families I know aren't exactly drowning in cash. This tariff tax will hurt them too.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
35. What the hell does that even mean?
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:25 PM
May 2019

Those two things have nothing to do with each other. It's beyond embarrassing that dipshits like this are able to become lawmakers in this country.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
36. The media is finally reporting that Trump LIED about his tariffs and now Cotton is doing damage
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:28 PM
May 2019

control for trump. Shame that he has to bring in the troops . damn

JDC

(10,125 posts)
42. What the Fuck?
Mon May 13, 2019, 07:51 PM
May 2019

more wrapping himself in the flag to excuse shot decision making.

When our economy goes in the toilet, he will make another excuse, no doubt service comparison related.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
45. Ex-military folks love this stuff. Besides, many shop at base exchanges. No taxes there.
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:41 PM
May 2019

I might also add, which people on the right and left really hate to hear, is that our military is all volunteer.

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