Trump bucks his own party again. This time, it's on importing drugs from Canada
Source: CNN
(CNN)President Donald Trump's latest plan to lower drug prices is drawing concerns from Health Secretary Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical executive who has called drug importation a "gimmick."
The President is embracing a controversial Florida proposal to import drugs from Canada, which Republicans have long opposed and many health experts have questioned.
The measure -- backed by Florida Republicans Gov. Rick DeSantis and Rep. Matt Gaetz, both close Trump allies -- requires federal approval. Trump has spoken highly of the idea and has told Azar to pursue the issue as a way to reduce the cost of prescription drugs.
But as recently as last week, Azar expressed reservations during a meeting with Trump, DeSantis and Gaetz, prompting a "spirited discussion," Gaetz told CNN.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/trump-drug-importation-florida/index.html
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)white coat criminal cartel needs huge competition from outside the country. Canada is a good place to start for outsourcing prescriptions for Americans.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Are they just playing with their Florida 65+ base for the next election?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Probably trying to lower the overall cost of healthcare in Florida. Lots of seniors in Florida. Healthcare is unaffordable in its present form.
Jose Garcia
(2,583 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,717 posts)We already have issues getting some meds and people who can't afford them (about 10% in 2017) are either reducing the dosage to make them last or not filling the prescriptions at all. Right your own boat, don't tip ours over.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Let's see if we can make it a perfect score with our good neighbors to the north too.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)To Trump, there is ONLY TRUMP.
And to a much lesser extent, there is that which is 'Of/Like/For Trump'.
Nothing, and nobody ... ELSE ... has any intrinsic value/meaning/rights of any kind ... all which is 'Non-Trump' can (and hopefully will) ... suffer and die ... in the pathological narcissists mind.
OnlinePoker
(5,717 posts)My wife is already paying $350 per month for glaucoma meds and has to order a month and a half early to ensure she doesn't run out. I can just imagine what it will be like if it's all being shipped south. This is an example of economic imperialism by the U.S. The goods will go where the dollars are and screw the rest of the world.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)We're exceptional in America!
America is a mess. I really don't want our cancer to spread to our good neighbors.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)they won't be inspecting and regulating any drugs that get shipped through Canada on the way to the US. They'll only be inspecting the drugs sold to Canadians inside Canada.
So we in America will just be getting the fake stuff.
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DrToast
(6,414 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)and they don't want to be the conduit for all our prescription drugs -- real and fake.
They have their hands full regulating and inspecting their own drugs, and they already made it clear -- when Bernie proposed this -- that they weren't going to take on inspecting drugs for us, too. And there's nothing to stop purveyors of fake or contaminated drugs from setting up online pharmacies and shipping their product through Canada. But it won't be the same drugs that Canada is approving for sale within their country.
Here in Washington, we've already discovered fake drugs being sent here in the mail via Canada. How could we trust any drugs that neither the Canadians nor the FDA were inspecting?
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)to take people to Canada to get their meds. Especially elderly folks who just couldn't afford the high prices.
Everything this administration touches dies. I'd hate if that started to include people, too.
atreides1
(16,066 posts)Remember, this is the same man who promised another tax cut for middle class Americans, right before the mid-term elections!
The man is a confirmed liar, he's lied about almost everything, and he's lying about this as well!!!
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)The first tax cut had nothing to do with the middle class; 82% of THAT tax cut went to the wealthiest. NOW with drumpf's tariffs, the middle class is going to get hammered with a HUGE backdoor tax increase.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Well, he's on his way out.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)Until then, his job is safe.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)durablend
(7,455 posts)What's in it for him?
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)and hopefully crushing their superior 'socialist' medical system by this means?
Either that, or just trying to secure the votes of the Seniors in this Country by fronting like he wants this, even though there's zero chance he actually DOES, or that it will happen.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Lowering prices here is going to raise them in other countries.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I.E. is far, far from universal ...
'We' also subsidize (as taxpayers) a metric shit-ton of 'research grants' that are then used for corporate profits with no recompense, AND (as consumers) a buttload of private planes, yachts, mansions, luxury vacations, etc.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)some of those critical and overly profitable drugs, like insulin.
The Mouth
(3,145 posts)I don't care where someone lives, I want a government that says *I* pay nor more than them. Let any other circumstances fall where they may.
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)American pharmaceutical companies to negotiate reduced prices. I know, rhetorical question.
More_Cowbell
(2,190 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Canada should block export of drugs to the USA until the Trump tariffs against steel and aluminum are taken down. tRump imposed them because he declared Canada to be a National Security Threat against the United States of America. Look it up.
How can the US trust Canadian drugs if it won't trust Canadian metal?
Anyway, the best Canadian drugs are cannabis.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Canadian radio stations were warning folks NOT to take any pot across the Border.
duforsure
(11,884 posts)As a bluff to big pharma unless they pay him and his PAC more now? Is this part of another shakedown unless they pay him, or it could be considered a bribe really to let things stay the same like he's done after 2016 election . He claimed he would lower costs, then took millions from big pharma and did nothing.
Freethinker65
(9,999 posts)That and/or US Pharmaceutical companies begin to lower their prices here because of the "threat" and Trump gets to boast about it during the campaign. Higher prices will then return.
ck4829
(35,038 posts)Maxheader
(4,370 posts)Obama couldn't do it either...
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)hatrack
(59,574 posts)Like a David Attenborough documentary about elephant seals.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I would rather letting government agencies negotiate drug prices with drug companies. I would also like for there to be changes made in how drugs are packaged. There are many ways to lower drug costs aside from importing drugs from Canada.
Five Ten Nineteen
(22 posts)Is Trump actually supporting something sensible? Okay, as of right now, I'm keeping watch for Killer Asteroids!
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)With Trump there is likely some other motive or he'll just change his mind and claim it was fake news.
I am curious about the pros & cons of such a policy, though. I don't have a deep enough understanding of issue to draw any conclusions on if such a policy would be good or bad. It's also difficult to filter out partisan pro/cons from the legitimate pros and cons.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Honestly, that's what proponents claim. Nevermind that any medication we get from US pharmacies is always made in other countries anyway.
RicROC
(1,203 posts)If Canadian Health Care costs 25% of what US Healthcare costs are...why not must send the the equivalent 25% of money over to Canada to cover us so that we go to the doctor with no copays?
I always thought that an entrepreneurial young Canadian CEO could make some good money by having US citizens apply for Canadian health insurance. I live only 75 miles from the Canadian border; I'd hop in the car for reasonably priced care.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I live five miles from the border, we could start a shuttle service !!
ck4829
(35,038 posts)mopinko
(69,990 posts)it's just stupid. figure out how canada does it, then do that. (yes, yes, single payer, etc. medicare, medicaid, tricare, va, all could cut deals if they wanted to.)
allowing imports just lays out more pathways for fraud.
knock off drugs from china and india, some made w stolen intellectual property, would be able to slip under that wire. who knows what else?
no thanks. little trust that i have in our feds at this moment. i still want my meds made under fda oversight.
JGug1
(320 posts)We really, really need to be careful that we don't oppose something just because Trump favors it. It is silly to assert that Canadian drugs are not safe.
mopinko
(69,990 posts)people order from pharmacies that are located in canada, but the drugs are not made in canada.
i dont have a problem w drugs made in canada.
i have a problem w third countries pretending they are canadian.
JGug1
(320 posts)Why on earth should we not import drugs from Canada? Seriously, and I disdain Donald Trump
ck4829
(35,038 posts)runtel
(25 posts)When this was brought up years ago it was shown then that many of Canada's drugs were imported from the U.S. American drug companies sold medications to Canada at a hugely reduced price. Forget importing and just hold the a$$holes responsible.
applegrove
(118,492 posts)for some reason.
zanana1
(6,102 posts)He's looking ahead to 2020, trying to get some Dem votes.
TheFarseer
(9,317 posts)Someone points out it will cut into profits and then he will backtrack.
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