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highplainsdem

(48,971 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:41 PM Sep 2012

Rick Santorum Says "Smart People Will Never Be On Our Side"

Source: BuzzFeed

WASHINGTON, DC — Former presidential candidate Rick Santorum attacked the media and "smart people" for not being on the side of conservatives in a speech to the Values Voter Summit on Saturday.

"We will never have the media on our side, ever, in this country," Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator, told the audience at the Omni Shoreham hotel. "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side."

The media "doesn't like the other side," Santorum said. "And not necessarily, I would argue, because they agree with them, but because they can influence the country.

"If just a few people make decisions about what this world looks like, what this country looks like, then you have people sitting in offices at major media outlets and Hollywood who think they can deal with a small group of people, to get them to jump through the hoops they want you to," Santorum said.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/rick-santorum-says-smart-people-will-never-be-on

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Rick Santorum Says "Smart People Will Never Be On Our Side" (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
Oh Ye of little faith! ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #1
Was your use of the word "prey" a Freudian slip or an "on purpose?" savannah43 Sep 2012 #31
That what I was thinking..it Cha Sep 2012 #63
Ith twue, ith twue ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #83
^Hooray Blazing Saddles! Sivafae Sep 2012 #94
Best.misspell.ever! tavalon Sep 2012 #89
"Smart People Will Never Be On Our Side" Flashmann Sep 2012 #2
No DUH! Smart people know better. He can be king of Dumbfuckistan as some call it. calimary Sep 2012 #26
But doesn't the realization Flashmann Sep 2012 #29
It was an accidential dribble of truth. savannah43 Sep 2012 #33
Well, it's one of those "even a broken clock is correct twice a day" things, I guess. calimary Sep 2012 #35
OK Flashmann Sep 2012 #38
I was agreeing with you. What I am wondering about now is how will Fox News savannah43 Sep 2012 #52
Apparently, Sanscrotum was unaware of the Irony of his own statement. formercia Sep 2012 #104
Dumbfuckistan Rambis Sep 2012 #126
A broken clock.... renaissanceguy Sep 2012 #128
There is a reason why smart people won't drink the koolaid. nt avebury Sep 2012 #3
You can't make this stuff up. Tomay Sep 2012 #4
Welcome to DU! calimary Sep 2012 #37
My brother who is unemployed, disabled (not legally), loves to party.. dotymed Sep 2012 #124
Thus easier to control, right? savannah43 Sep 2012 #41
Letting three out-of-control nuclear reactors to fester? Octafish Sep 2012 #99
I'll go with "conscious slap at intelligent people" William Seger Sep 2012 #49
That, and that line about the few getting the many to "jump through hoops" Volaris Sep 2012 #73
Yes, welcome to DU! treestar Sep 2012 #101
Good quote! most honest thing Sanitorium has had to say! mountain grammy Sep 2012 #5
He just made me feel very smart. Bwahahaha...n/t monmouth Sep 2012 #6
If Ricky had another brain, it would be lonesome DonViejo Sep 2012 #28
Lizard brain. Welcome to DU! calimary Sep 2012 #39
Like BLAH people? Iliyah Sep 2012 #7
Santorum has got a real loose mouth. alp227 Sep 2012 #92
They will never have the votes of the blah people either treestar Sep 2012 #102
Hmmm ... should I make that my new sig line ? nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2012 #8
In the defense of this particular chosen by god to lose candidate WCGreen Sep 2012 #9
he might not be all there anymore. Flashmann Sep 2012 #13
It's still a slap at "Teh Joooos!". Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #59
Truest thing that a conservative has ever said. Baitball Blogger Sep 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #11
Dumb/Dumber 2016! beac Sep 2012 #12
So he is saying that his people are STUPID HockeyMom Sep 2012 #14
The people, in the audience, xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #50
...and everyone who watches Fox. L0oniX Sep 2012 #77
So basically for him it's simply the wrong "just a few people make decisions..." calimary Sep 2012 #15
I agree with Rick Santorum??!! Freddie Sep 2012 #16
How high can you jump from Rick? goclark Sep 2012 #17
Rick, you are SOOOO correct. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #18
"I'm WIth Stupid" WallaceRitchie Sep 2012 #19
Welcome to DU! calimary Sep 2012 #24
do these fools even realize the implications of what they're saying? azurnoir Sep 2012 #20
Truer words were never spoke. ellie Sep 2012 #21
He must be channeling his inner Backmann lunatica Sep 2012 #22
So in other words he's calling his audience stupid? davidn3600 Sep 2012 #23
I think the opposite of "elite smart" is "stupid hicks" n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2012 #86
Bill Maher calls him "Christy McSweatervest" TexasBushwhacker Sep 2012 #87
I wonder if his "following" absorbed the gist of this ah-ha moment? mother earth Sep 2012 #25
No, they didn't --- because they're stupid!!!! LOL Nay Sep 2012 #43
Wow... xocet Sep 2012 #27
So, to that Master in Misogyny... FAUX SNOOZE, ... Amonester Sep 2012 #91
Another neurotic projection - Isn't this what religion does? socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #34
The second part of freedom is dumb. n/t fasttense Sep 2012 #122
In other words, he's saying, "We'll always be full of dumbasses!" sakabatou Sep 2012 #32
The Stupid Party speaks! louis-t Sep 2012 #36
they have a way with characterizing the "other" Supersedeas Sep 2012 #125
I think the translation is if you are smart vote Democrat... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #40
How long until someone on Fox explains what he really meant? siligut Sep 2012 #42
I can't take the incessant whining!!! CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #44
I LOVE your post!! emmadoggy Sep 2012 #78
well said! Iris Sep 2012 #80
Niiiiice!! fxmakeupguy Sep 2012 #103
You got it tawadi Sep 2012 #108
That should be on a GOP bumper sticker! DesertRat Sep 2012 #45
This thread has made my day (no reference to Clint) mimi85 Sep 2012 #46
How sad and bizarre. America, where being smart is evil. nolabear Sep 2012 #47
I always knew there was a reason.. rjlobo422 Sep 2012 #48
Ummm .... Rick? bucolic_frolic Sep 2012 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #53
Well it isn't from the onion. LisaL Sep 2012 #58
Yes, Rick Mz Pip Sep 2012 #54
Smart people will never be on your side? ElboRuum Sep 2012 #55
education Seniorcousin Sep 2012 #56
Sure does. LisaL Sep 2012 #57
Mr. Fecal Matter Politicalboi Sep 2012 #60
When is this piece of shit conference gonna be over already? busterbrown Sep 2012 #61
What a Big Whiner.. Oooops, looks Cha Sep 2012 #62
Sadly, "his" people are too stupid to understand that he just called them stupid. tandot Sep 2012 #64
Santorum says, only idiots vote Republican. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #65
William F. Buckley? kurtzapril4 Sep 2012 #66
Do you think Buckley, Sr. would vote for Mittens? savannah43 Sep 2012 #68
I don't know. kurtzapril4 Sep 2012 #71
Sure he would have. sofa king Sep 2012 #98
His son endorsed Obama in 2008 and is not "in their camp" this time. grantcart Sep 2012 #69
In a crypto-Nazi kind of way. Octafish Sep 2012 #100
Sorry part? Convention fees are TAX deductible! benld74 Sep 2012 #67
What he seems to be advocating..... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #70
Those fuckers OWN the media and that's all they ever complain about DainBramaged Sep 2012 #72
santorium is offering us, the "non-smart" a peek at how the world is run (from his perspective). iemitsu Sep 2012 #74
Santorum's remarks just a frothy mixture of illogic, aside from the bit about "smart people". nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #75
Breaking: Santorum will now use Fox for all ads ...because only stupid people watch Fox. L0oniX Sep 2012 #76
Res ipsa loquitur Turbineguy Sep 2012 #79
Well that just about wraps things up. oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #81
Just flat out stupid piltdownman Sep 2012 #82
Major facepalming going on at The Onion. ehrnst Sep 2012 #84
no dude ,it's because your a sleezeball WRH2 Sep 2012 #85
So meanwhile back at the Fox Noise Media Room ... cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #88
Wisdom from the right! Hullabalooya! Praise the Lard! Kablooie Sep 2012 #90
Santorum 2016! randome Sep 2012 #93
Come out and say it Ricky .... it is them damn Jews that run everything Botany Sep 2012 #95
Oh no, not another .. sendero Sep 2012 #96
what a chucklehead!!!! "the liberal media" newspeak Sep 2012 #120
It's ok Rick, because it is clear you have the dumbass vote wrapped up. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #97
Time out. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #105
WTF? ronnie624 Sep 2012 #106
Article About Santorum's True Statement StevePaulson Sep 2012 #107
Ricky, any Democrat living in a perennial red state could have told you that. Hoyt Sep 2012 #109
Unfortunately, I don't think verges Sep 2012 #110
That's because smart people.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2012 #111
what a total Ass Clown this guy is BadGimp Sep 2012 #112
A Pub speaking the truth for a change - he is right - no smart person would be in that party patricia92243 Sep 2012 #113
Agree To Not Agree elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #114
The new republican campaign mantra! L0oniX Sep 2012 #115
Hey, Former Senator Man-on-Dog 47of74 Sep 2012 #116
IT'S NOT THE JOB OF THE MEDIA TO PICK A SIDE! obxhead Sep 2012 #117
Yes, Rick, that is very true. One would have to be a moron to be Republican. Chemisse Sep 2012 #118
Yeah, because smart people don't vote for dumbshits. polichick Sep 2012 #119
I heard that before... jmowreader Sep 2012 #121
So he's saying 'You have to be thick to vote for someone like me'? I quite agree. LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #123
What *REALLY* pisses me off the most about this: Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #127

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. Oh Ye of little faith!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:45 PM
Sep 2012

Don't you know that prayer solves all problems? Unless you didn't prey hard enough, which then makes it your fault.

What an idiot.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
2. "Smart People Will Never Be On Our Side"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:46 PM
Sep 2012

Holy Moly!!....Does this mean Senator Shitsmear has a fingernails grasp of a clue?......

calimary

(81,220 posts)
26. No DUH! Smart people know better. He can be king of Dumbfuckistan as some call it.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:09 PM
Sep 2012

sanctimonium will have to stick to the dumb shits, but unfortunately they are legion.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
29. But doesn't the realization
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

On Shitsmears part,that smart folks will never be on his,(their),side,signify his having a grasp of reality,however tenuous,or temporary?

savannah43

(575 posts)
33. It was an accidential dribble of truth.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:26 PM
Sep 2012

I think we can all assume that he was not working from a Rovian script. Or maybe he just forgot his lines. Even my cats burst out laughing.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
35. Well, it's one of those "even a broken clock is correct twice a day" things, I guess.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012



I just do not get these people. I just don't get anyone who thinks contraception is basically wrong. Just don't get it. I know why they think such things. Just don't get the "logic" or "reasoning." Mainly because THERE ISN'T ANY!!!!!!!!!!!

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
38. OK
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sep 2012

It isn't as if I were defending or even commending Senator Shitstain..I Merely intended to comment on the irony,that a sack of excrement,such as him,would voice such a truth,however accidental...It isn't even earthshattering that he did so.After all,what he said is glaringly obvious to anyone possessing an IQ higher than the wattage of a refridgerator light bulb...

savannah43

(575 posts)
52. I was agreeing with you. What I am wondering about now is how will Fox News
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:03 PM
Sep 2012

and the Mittens campaign respond. It's Saturday and Rove and Ailes are having their weekly feast of roasted Somali orphans. It will be interesting to see who covers for "Bush's Brain" and Murdoch's enforcer on the weekend shift.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
104. Apparently, Sanscrotum was unaware of the Irony of his own statement.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

The proof is in the Pudding, as they say.

renaissanceguy

(1,729 posts)
128. A broken clock....
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:42 PM
Sep 2012

You know the saying. Their party thrives on people who can't think for themselves. That's probably 78% of their demographic.



http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues

Tomay

(58 posts)
4. You can't make this stuff up.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:48 PM
Sep 2012

Was this a Freudian slip, or a conscious slap at intelligent people? My money's on the latter. The right wing has hated intellectuals since the 1930s at least. In their eyes it's better to be dumb and full of blind faith than smart with a questioning mind.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
37. Welcome to DU!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:32 PM
Sep 2012

They hate smart people because they know smart people can figure them out and won't fall for their bullshit. I believe it was kkkarl rove who once said "too much education is not necessarily a good thing." That was because the better educated one is, the more likely one is to be liberal in his/her thinking. It's BROADENING the mind that they fear. They like minds nice and narrow, and closed, and pinched.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
124. My brother who is unemployed, disabled (not legally), loves to party..
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:10 AM
Sep 2012

has lived with mom all of his life, never voted, loves Joel Olsteen....say's "ignorance is bliss." And he lives by that reasoning(?).

savannah43

(575 posts)
41. Thus easier to control, right?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012

What if the 1% decide that they no longer need or desire to suffer the rest of us living? How would they eliminate us? Toxic corporate food? Bad pharmaceuticals? Polluting the environment? Taking away the social safety nets? Wait a minute...

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
49. I'll go with "conscious slap at intelligent people"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:56 PM
Sep 2012

This "movement" makes no bones about being anti-intellectual.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
73. That, and that line about the few getting the many to "jump through hoops"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:19 PM
Sep 2012

sounds like a direct challenge to the Republican Party "Establishment", who have been so effectivley using and abusing the STUPID-faithful people in this country to get themselves elected for 30 years...sounds like Rick has had enough of being a dupe, too bad he missed the point...as in, if you don't want your "dumb" abused on a national level, maybe you should try being a lil bit smarter...but OH NO, we're just going to keep on, keeping on, and it's YOU ALL who should just abide by our stoopid, and do what we say...

It's now on the Record, he's a self-professed idiot, and PROUD of that fact, and he ain't EVER going to change for the likes of getting elected. This is a GOOD THING for American politics, because it means the final destruction of the Reagan Coalition will begin in earnest in November, 2012. It's about damn time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
101. Yes, welcome to DU!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:20 AM
Sep 2012

We all joke about his finally getting a clue, but then remember their anti-intellectualism. But then Senator Stupid was in-artful in his expression of it. We know he means to insult the "elite" and the "smart" but it didn't come out well.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
92. Santorum has got a real loose mouth.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:51 PM
Sep 2012

(Try not to read with a dirty mind, considering the alt def of Santorum.)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
102. They will never have the votes of the blah people either
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:21 AM
Sep 2012

He just inadvertently admitted that blah people are smarter than Republicans. Interesting.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
9. In the defense of this particular chosen by god to lose candidate
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:54 PM
Sep 2012

probably meant the "smart" set, which was a derogatory way to describe the New York liberals when it was no longer Kosher to call them pointy headed intellectuals.

I knew he had a 1950's mindset but to channel that decades barbs means he might not be all there anymore.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
59. It's still a slap at "Teh Joooos!".
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:15 PM
Sep 2012

After all, everyone knows it's Teh Joooos that control Hollywood and Wall Street.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
14. So he is saying that his people are STUPID
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

if the smart people won't join his side. Ok, Little Ricky, I can agree that you and your people are stupid.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
15. So basically for him it's simply the wrong "just a few people make decisions..."
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sep 2012

Notice: if it were the "just a few people" like the koch brothers and shel adelson and foster friese and other human opportunistic infections, he'd have no problem with it.

But they're correct about one thing: smart people will NEVER side with sanctimonium. Smart people know, understand, and appreciate things like knowledge and science and logic and reason and reality. Smart people can have faith AND reality-based knowledge that governs their decisions. Smart people understand the whole concept of shades of gray rather than assuming the world is simplistically black-or-white. Smart people do nuance. Idiots don't even understand the word - or they're proudly against it like one of their heroes, george w. idiot.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
24. Welcome to DU!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:09 PM
Sep 2012

I saw the headline and thought - No DUH!!!

Glad you're here! We need you!







Now get to work.




TexasBushwhacker

(20,175 posts)
87. Bill Maher calls him "Christy McSweatervest"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:56 PM
Sep 2012

After all, this is the guy who called Obama a snob for wanting everyone to be able to go to college. They don't want that because college makes more LIBERALS.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
91. So, to that Master in Misogyny... FAUX SNOOZE, ...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:46 PM
Sep 2012

Corporate New Neandertals & Co aren't on their side????

WOW!

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
30. Another neurotic projection - Isn't this what religion does?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

It's a bunch of people at the top who "preach" down to the lesser people and get the people to think what the hierarchy wants them to think.

What is the conservative right trying to do but get the country to
obey the laws and beliefs of the conservative church.

Huh, Sanitorium?
That's what you were trying to do to the country!

Freedom to think!
Freedom to act!
Freedom to seek happiness!

Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #30)

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
40. I think the translation is if you are smart vote Democrat...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sep 2012

That was my take on it anyway. And I have to be correct, because I am not on Santorum's side and he just said I was smart.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
44. I can't take the incessant whining!!!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

These extreme right zealots blame everyone -- except themselves -- for the unpopularity and rejection of their insane views.

It's the media's fault.

It's Barack Obama's fault.

It's the liberal's fault.

These people are the biggest bunch of whiney candy asses ever to grace this country.

If you want to have extremist, unpopular, frightening views that are inconsistent with rational thought, wisdom and basic human decency. FINE! Have at it!

But don't blame the frickin world when we don't glom on to your rancid stupidity.

These people are a bunch of babies.

fxmakeupguy

(9 posts)
103. Niiiiice!!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:57 AM
Sep 2012

Great post, CoffeeCat! It's ALWAYS everyone else's fault when they don't get their way. Meanwhile, we Dems and libs take the high road. Last time one of ours got re-elected, they tried impeachment. Who knows what they'll try THIS time. They are, without a doubt, the Party of Sore Losers. If they're in power -- WATCH OUT! They grab all they can, run roughshod over everything and everyone and do whatever they want to do. But when they are NOT holding ALL the levers of power, they will do everything they can to gum up the works and then blame it on us. We "smart people" need to start pointing that out to the rest of the people who aren't paying close enough attention!

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
47. How sad and bizarre. America, where being smart is evil.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:43 PM
Sep 2012

Oh, and we're the greatest country on Earth and we're tops in innovation and we have the best medical system in the world and, well, DAMN those smart people!

What do you DO with that, except vote smart.

VOTE FOR THE SMART GUY.

rjlobo422

(29 posts)
48. I always knew there was a reason..
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:55 PM
Sep 2012

I always knew there was a reason I liked you Rick. You are such a straight shooter. You make my world so understandable. Who needs those nerdy minority and gay lovers anyway. Who the hell needs shit like truth, honesty, compassion, tolerance and reason. That shit just clouds my worldview anyway. And hey, the next time I see a cute girl walking down the street, I'll already know what is happening under her skirt.....you have already legislated it, right?

I need another cup of coffee and a bowl...what an asshole.

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
51. Ummm .... Rick?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:00 PM
Sep 2012

If the smart people will never be on your side?

You just admitted you're on the side of dumb people

and that means you are dumb also.

Rick, this is not something to boast about.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
55. Smart people will never be on your side?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

You're goddamn right about that Ricky.

And for very good fucking reason.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
60. Mr. Fecal Matter
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

Doesn't matter anymore. Just more lies about the "liberal media". He's right about the smart people though. Poor little Ricky with his pity party.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
64. Sadly, "his" people are too stupid to understand that he just called them stupid.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:44 PM
Sep 2012

I bet those idiots gave him a standing ovation for being called stupid

savannah43

(575 posts)
68. Do you think Buckley, Sr. would vote for Mittens?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:05 PM
Sep 2012

This current group has perverted Buckley's party. It's like Satan took it over.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
71. I don't know.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:16 PM
Sep 2012

I was just stating that Santorum was wrong, there are/were some very educated, erudite conservatives. They usually can't out-shout the crazy, though.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
98. Sure he would have.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sep 2012

For all the crap he spewed in his last years, trying to distinguish himself as a capital "c" conservative over the army of homonculi he helped to create, Buckley's political opinions were usually almost entirely reactionary.

He didn't have an opinion unless liberals provided one for him to twist into his own pretzel. And then he choked when he and his heroes had to eat them.

Buckley died bitter and disillusioned, disappointed with the amoral, dysfunctional world he had toiled so assiduously to forge. But he would have railed against President Obama every week, because President Obama would have provided him with actual policies from which he could bounce his "no it's not" ideology.

And that, in a nutshell, was Bill Buckley: sophistry, not substance. He and Mitt would have been peas in a pod.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
70. What he seems to be advocating.....
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:10 PM
Sep 2012

...is some kind of Political Peter Principle where people in general and politicians in particular are only capable of ''rising to their level of incompetence.''

- He's describing Teabagger Utopia.

K&R

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
74. santorium is offering us, the "non-smart" a peek at how the world is run (from his perspective).
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:21 PM
Sep 2012

i don't think he is implying that the audience is not smart but that they belong to a faction of smarts and that the other smarts are competing with them to create reality (the ultimate power rush).
firstly, he admits, that man (in fact a very few men) creates reality. this is interesting since the version of reality he promotes highlights the vital roll of religion.
according to santorium there are three groups of elites competing for the power to create reality. conservatives, who envision a reality based on church and home, the media, which (i think he's saying) supports the vision of big government/business, and hollywood which wants to see a reality which includes gay people (i'm being sarcastic here but suspect he would include them along with the list of evil freedoms that hollywood might promote).
evidently, santorium does not consider anyone who does not try to influence or control others to be smart.
unfortunately for santoruim, he also implies in this argument, that 2/3rds of the smart people in the country do not agree with or support the vision that he and the "values voters" promote.
i wonder how he explains that to himself? is it all really about power?

ed: for clarity

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
81. Well that just about wraps things up.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:50 PM
Sep 2012

Or at least explains a lot about how the Republicans view their own supporters. This is nothing new, Ike was proud to be "middlebrow." There seems to be a cachet among Republicans that scientists, actors, writers, musicians and all that "high brow" stuff is the province of Democrats and commies (and the phrase of the time, fellow travelers.) As for Rick's second accusation, about dealing with a small group of people controlling things, don't you think that boardrooms, Alec and other such groups are doing the same thing?

piltdownman

(5 posts)
82. Just flat out stupid
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

During his years in office in PA and during his run for Prez, Rick said a lot of crazy stuff...but he was always held
back by the fact that he had to get re-elected.

Fast forward.

He no longer has to worry about that, 'cause he'll never get elected to anything, ever again.

So...now he apparently feels free to spout off even crazier shit to his nutball base. I have rarely seen a pol
who is so in need of affirmation. He SO needs to be paid attention to, just like a cranky, whiny 7 year old,
which apparently is his mental age.

And, has anyone mentioned to Rick that "the media" are not, at least technically, not supposed to "take sides?"
Also, hasn't he noticed that most of the major media outlets are run by the same rapacious corporate CEOs
that all vote Republican?

His speech was, at the end of the day, simply meant as an easy applause line for the numbskulls at this
convention, but it is a new low, even for Ricky!

Pilt

WRH2

(87 posts)
85. no dude ,it's because your a sleezeball
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:23 PM
Sep 2012

It's the 100 million who are not connected to the internet that they get as much traction as they do.The rest of us can see the
game

Botany

(70,501 posts)
95. Come out and say it Ricky .... it is them damn Jews that run everything
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:32 AM
Sep 2012



"If just a few people make decisions about what this world looks like, what this country looks like,
then you have people sitting in offices at major media outlets and Hollywood who think they can
deal with a small group of people, to get them to jump through the hoops they want you to,"
Santorum said.

BTW if the liberal media and the Jews are running everything can they please come on out and
tell the world about Ohio 2004?

sendero

(28,552 posts)
96. Oh no, not another ..
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:37 AM
Sep 2012

... "liberal media" screed. There is no liberal media and there hasn't been since around the mid 90s.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
120. what a chucklehead!!!! "the liberal media"
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
Sep 2012

for approximately thirty fekkin years they've been talking about the liberal media. "The media is as a liberal as their conservative corporate owners allow them to be." they've shoved fabricating hate spewers like limpballs, o'llielly, the wacky beck and hannity--hoping that their audience has been dumbed down enough to believe their shite.

no more discourse-debate-with real facts. No we've got the obscene talking heads who cut microphones when they don't like what their hearing or they're losing the debate. That's the present discourse in the good old USA.

maybe he thinks that he can dumb down the plebes enough, so the neocons can have themselves a nice little dictatorship, with them being the dictator, of course (words from little boots).

before goldwater died, he was very disappointed of the direction the repug party was going. I'm wondering how many old repugs are rolling in their graves. at least some of them had some decency and brains (exclude mccarthy, nixon, atwater).

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
105. Time out.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:21 PM
Sep 2012

This is wedge politics, with (from his perspective) the wedge driven in the right place. When he disparages "elite, smart people" he's embracing the working class.

We better represent the working class but do a poor job of communicating it. They do a poor job of representing the working class, but do an excellent job of obfuscating that reality.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
106. WTF?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:26 PM
Sep 2012
"If just a few people make decisions about what this world looks like, what this country looks like, then you have people sitting in offices at major media outlets and Hollywood who think they can deal with a small group of people, to get them to jump through the hoops they want you to," Santorum said.

Pure gibberish.

StevePaulson

(174 posts)
107. Article About Santorum's True Statement
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:52 PM
Sep 2012

I read a great article about why smart people will never be with conservatives at http://www.republicansareadisease.com Smart people don't like liars, homophobes, vote suppressors etc.

Mr. Ass Juice is what they call him. Fitting.

verges

(1,936 posts)
110. Unfortunately, I don't think
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:22 PM
Sep 2012

he meant "smart" as in intelligent. In context, it seems to me, he meant "smart " as in stylish. As in "the smart set". I surmise this because of the way he linked it with "elite." And even Santorum isn't stupid enough to say or even think his base isn't smart(intelligent). Even if their not..

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
111. That's because smart people....
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sep 2012

Know the important concept of CRITICAL THINKING instead of following blindly like wayward sleep without investigating outside resources (besides the MSM) to gain point of views on a political manner. Sorry Rick that you and your wayward sleep at the Voter Values Conference did not learn this in elementary school.

 

elbloggoZY27

(283 posts)
114. Agree To Not Agree
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:59 PM
Sep 2012

This Country was founded on the principle of Free Speech. It has nothing to do with intelligence.

Over the course of this particular Administration and Congress I have heard some of the worst comments by some of the savviest of Politicians, Analysts, Columnists and just regular citizens.

The way I see it is that we are one Country with a grand mix of human beings that have some very common foreign enemies and that was confirmed when our Consulates in the Middle East & Africa were attacked and our Citizens Murdered.

Commenting on Conservatism has been Trumped by the present World Situation which has turned quite ugly. I think in my opinion we Americans no matter what Party we vote for should stand up as one against some really dangerous people who obviously hate us.


 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
116. Hey, Former Senator Man-on-Dog
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

....the reason smart people aren't on the side of the conservatives is because we see right through the lies and the bullshit.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
117. IT'S NOT THE JOB OF THE MEDIA TO PICK A SIDE!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:23 PM
Sep 2012

The "media" is supposed to report the facts and deliver news, not to pick a side and swing the population to a particular view.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
118. Yes, Rick, that is very true. One would have to be a moron to be Republican.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

Or a greedy bastard. But since most of your party is just plain dumb, they don't understand about the greedy bastards, so it's all good.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
121. I heard that before...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:11 AM
Sep 2012

In Idiocracy, Frito was discussing the Time Machine..."it breaks down all the time 'cause some smart guy made it a long time ago." "Smart guy" was pronounced with a real nasty sneer.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
127. What *REALLY* pisses me off the most about this:
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

If a Democratic pol had said something similar about the "red state/low information voter" -crowd, the media would have happily knocked Romney off as lead story and dove in with both barrels blazing...

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