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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,389 posts)
Thu May 23, 2019, 11:30 AM May 2019

Trump plans $16 billion bailout to farmers hurt by China trade war, USDA Secretary Sonny Perdue says

Source: CNBC

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Trump plans $16 billion bailout to farmers hurt by China trade war, USDA Secretary Sonny Perdue says
PUBLISHED 2 HOURS AGO UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

Christina Wilkie
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Jeff Daniels
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KEY POINTS
* President Trump is expected to unveil a $16 billion aid package for American farmers who have been hurt by the U.S. trade war with China.
* Agricultre Secretary Sonny Perdue says the aid package would come from the tariffs being collected by the Treasury.
* Tariffs on Chinese goods have been paid almost entirely by U.S. importers, according to the IMF.

The Trump administration is about to unveil its latest aid package for American farmers who have been hurt by the U.S. trade war with China.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue confirmed Thursday the plan's centerpiece would be a $16 billion aid program intended to help ease the impact of decreased agricultural purchases from China, one of the consequences of the trade war with Beijing.

Speaking on Fox Business Network on Thursday, Perdue said the aid package would come from the tariffs being collected by the Treasury. Tariffs on Chinese goods have been paid almost entirely by U.S. importers, according to a new International Monetary Fund study, and the costs are then passed on to U.S consumers.

President Donald Trump was scheduled to deliver remarks about U.S. farmers later Thursday.
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Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/trump-to-give-16-billion-to-farmers-hurt-by-trade-war-sonny-perdue.html



Hat tip, the Washington Post. It's behind a paywall for a lot of people here.

Trump administration to unveil new $16 billion aid package for American farmers hit in trade war

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/23/trump-administration-unveil-new-billion-aid-package-american-farmers-hit-trade-war/

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"Agricultre Secretary Sonny Perdue says the aid package would come from the tariffs being collected by the Treasury."

In other words, me.
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Trump plans $16 billion bailout to farmers hurt by China trade war, USDA Secretary Sonny Perdue says (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 OP
KGOP repubes are using our tax $ as welfare for Chem-GMO-corporate Ag, Incs. Achilleaze May 2019 #1
So now Trump likes socialism. Doodley May 2019 #2
Who has control over Tariff money? no_hypocrisy May 2019 #3
that's what i keep asking. how the fuck do they appropriate $$$ mopinko May 2019 #7
Yesterday, he said he would not work with murielm99 May 2019 #19
checks have been cut. mopinko May 2019 #23
We have not gotten any money. murielm99 May 2019 #24
mostly big farms. you had to apply. mopinko May 2019 #27
I wish I knew what is going on with this. murielm99 May 2019 #20
Trump keeps saying the Chinese will pay the tariffs left-of-center2012 May 2019 #4
Actually, China still buys our TBILLS, so in a way they will be helpful Pluvious May 2019 #12
So the rest of us pay double for his screwups C_U_L8R May 2019 #5
Buying votes. JohnnyRingo May 2019 #6
Absurd. gademocrat7 May 2019 #8
How much of this $16 billion will go to NewJeffCT May 2019 #9
So essentially we are getting F*cked twice nykym May 2019 #10
Hey Republicans watoos May 2019 #11
So, we are in debt to china for 1.13 trillion dollars yaesu May 2019 #13
China will lose 10 million manufacturing jobs at140 May 2019 #29
They are right now preparing for that per news yesterday, the long march II yaesu May 2019 #30
I grew up in South Asia and at140 May 2019 #31
More big government give away. nt Hotler May 2019 #14
Taxpayer buyoff to tRump base for his re-election campaign. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #15
"... Here is our program to support farmers...." mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 #16
More socialism for the rich. nt SunSeeker May 2019 #17
Will believe it when I see it. (n/t) IndyOp May 2019 #18
Republican socialism beachbum bob May 2019 #21
Congress must approve this expenditure. But Trump says he won't work wit Congress. MineralMan May 2019 #22
I have a better idea jmowreader May 2019 #25
🚨 BREAKING: USDA announces support for farmers impacted by unjustified retaliation and trade disrup mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 #26
Tax Payers will be funding Trump's stupid Trade War. djacq May 2019 #28
OK.... paleotn May 2019 #32

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. KGOP repubes are using our tax $ as welfare for Chem-GMO-corporate Ag, Incs.
Thu May 23, 2019, 11:36 AM
May 2019

This is one of the slickest and sickest republican welfare-for-corporations CON jobs ever forced down America's throat.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
7. that's what i keep asking. how the fuck do they appropriate $$$
Thu May 23, 2019, 11:43 AM
May 2019

no matter where it comes from, the president doesnt get to just dole out millions w/o congress.
wtf isnt anyone even bringing this up?

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
19. Yesterday, he said he would not work with
Thu May 23, 2019, 01:01 PM
May 2019

Democrats unless they stop investigating him. Since the appropriations would have to originate in the House, there will be no way to raise the money to give to the farmers. They have not raised the money for the first promises he made to farmers, let alone this new blather his is promising.

There will be no bailout for farmers. Will they remember that in the fall, when they have to get a crop in out of the ground, or when they go to the polls? There will be no bailout! And before you start bitching about farmers, I am one.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
20. I wish I knew what is going on with this.
Thu May 23, 2019, 01:05 PM
May 2019

I looked at the link provided in post #16. I don't see how this tariff money can be used directly by USDA. This is smoke and mirrors.

If someone knows, please enlighten me.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. Trump keeps saying the Chinese will pay the tariffs
Thu May 23, 2019, 11:40 AM
May 2019

Last edited Thu May 23, 2019, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)

NO!

Americans buying goods made in China will pay through higher prices on the goods.

Pluvious

(4,308 posts)
12. Actually, China still buys our TBILLS, so in a way they will be helpful
Thu May 23, 2019, 12:21 PM
May 2019

Since the US Government's budget is in the red, we'll be borrowing the funds to pay the farmers for the rotting silos of crops.

But the good news is...

WE ARE REALLY STICKING IT TO CHINAH !!

USA !!
USA !!

gademocrat7

(10,654 posts)
8. Absurd.
Thu May 23, 2019, 11:52 AM
May 2019

He is an utter failure. Does not have any understanding of tariffs. Just robbing us blind. I thought Congress controlled the purse strings.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
10. So essentially we are getting F*cked twice
Thu May 23, 2019, 11:59 AM
May 2019

One when the tariffs are used to bail out the farmers (They should get some compensation for tRumps tariff boondoggle).
Then again when the price of farm goods goes up because of the tariffs and supply shortages because of the tariffs.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. Hey Republicans
Thu May 23, 2019, 12:02 PM
May 2019

Our debt is 22 trillion and our deficit is at least 1 trillion per year.

Democrats need to hold a press conference.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
13. So, we are in debt to china for 1.13 trillion dollars
Thu May 23, 2019, 12:23 PM
May 2019

they could dump treasury notes and sink the USS Titanic in a heartbeat.

at140

(6,110 posts)
29. China will lose 10 million manufacturing jobs
Thu May 23, 2019, 03:48 PM
May 2019

If tariff war gets hot. China is too clever to get Tangled in a tariff war with US. They will just wait it out until Trump is out of office. Because Americans have always caved before.

Just watch, China will prolong tariff negotiations past election in 2020. N Korea and China & even Mexico will win the trade deal in the end. They all have patience, we don't. Trade deficits are never going to end, not in my lifetime.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,389 posts)
16. "... Here is our program to support farmers...."
Thu May 23, 2019, 12:47 PM
May 2019
.@POTUS has great affection for America’s farmers and he knows they are bearing the brunt of these trade disputes. Here is our program to support farmers while @POTUS fights to get better trade deals with China and other nations around the world:


jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
25. I have a better idea
Thu May 23, 2019, 03:07 PM
May 2019

End the fucking trade war, make nice with China's commodities buyers and save $16 billion in welfare payments to our farmers. I have this strange feeling they'd much rather sell their crops than get aid payments for not being able to sell them.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,389 posts)
26. 🚨 BREAKING: USDA announces support for farmers impacted by unjustified retaliation and trade disrup
Thu May 23, 2019, 03:15 PM
May 2019
🚨 BREAKING: USDA announces support for farmers impacted by unjustified retaliation and trade disruption



You made it justified, you disrupted trade.

This is like Obama single handedly crashing the economy in 08 and then bailing it out and saying, you’re welcome.



The simile has me just a little confused.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
32. OK....
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:33 PM
May 2019

And what are they going to do in 2020 when the Chinese buy soybeans from a more stable suppliers in Brazil and elsewhere? More bailouts? How about 2021? 2022? Get the picture? Foreign markets for American commodity crops that took decades to build are now destroyed. I wouldn't do business with us either.

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