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Ramsey Barner

(349 posts)
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:27 PM May 2019

Justice Department does not comply with court order to release transcripts of Michael Flynn's conver

Last edited Fri May 31, 2019, 07:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

Federal prosecutors on Friday declined to make public transcripts of recorded conversations between Michael Flynn and Russia’s ambassador to the United States in December 2016, despite a judge’s order.

In a court filing Friday, the Justice Department wrote that it did not rely on such recordings to establish Flynn’s guilt or determine a recommendation for his sentencing.

Prosecutors also failed to release an unredacted version of portions of the Mueller report related to Flynn that the judge had ordered be made public.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/justice-department-fails-to-comply-with-court-order-to-release-transcripts-of-michael-flynns-conversations-with-russian-ambassador/2019/05/31/9b4a6754-83b8-11e9-95a9-e2c830afe24f_story.html?utm_term=.21429804fe04



"The government further represents that it is not relying on any other recordings, of any person, for purposes of establishing the defendant’s guilt or determining his sentence, nor are there any other recordings that are part of the sentencing record" means that DOJ is refusing to turn over the Flynn-Russians transcripts and audio recordings despite the Court's explicit order.
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Justice Department does not comply with court order to release transcripts of Michael Flynn's conver (Original Post) Ramsey Barner May 2019 OP
Lock him up! Chin music May 2019 #1
Judge Sullivan riverwalker May 2019 #2
If they have nothing to hide and Flynn is innocent why not release the transcripts? kimbutgar May 2019 #3
Why has nearly every Trump associate LIED about their contacts with Russian? csziggy May 2019 #7
Because tRUMP promised pardons! (MY opinion) bluestarone May 2019 #8
Oh, you know it! Ligyron May 2019 #16
I suspect there's some very sinister GOP/Russian collusion hiding in the shadows. KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #22
I'm with you - they are hiding some serious dirt or major money csziggy May 2019 #28
Yes. The turnabout of Lindsay Graham stands out for me. yonder May 2019 #29
Another possibility that's frightening but would make sense... KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #30
Because it even worse, much worse, than we or the press have ever suspected! machoneman Jun 2019 #34
Flynn should spend a lot more than 6 months in jail.... a lot more Thekaspervote May 2019 #4
Sullivan was outraged by Flynn Jarqui May 2019 #5
Exactly. Ramsey Barner May 2019 #6
This is what happens when Mueller's no longer calling the shots. Nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2019 #9
Send the U.S. Marshalls tonekat May 2019 #10
When the bank robbers are in charge of bank security. nt yaesu May 2019 #11
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hair on Fire time. nt Grasswire2 May 2019 #12
We knew this was coming, not complying with a court order. AJT May 2019 #13
Judge's options people May 2019 #26
This is AWESOME! Every time the Trump regime is given rope, they wrap it around their necks... CaptainTruth May 2019 #14
A veritable parade of obstruction of justice every single day. Kablooie May 2019 #15
WOW you got that right bluestarone May 2019 #18
What is truly amazing is that Trumpy lawyers not only lied but got caught in lies! machoneman Jun 2019 #35
They seem to assume that Trump will be triumphant so they are above the law. Kablooie Jun 2019 #37
Is it still too soon? watoos May 2019 #17
I'm beginning to think that we are not, in fact, a nation of laws world wide wally May 2019 #19
Indeed. John Adams thought that a republic should be "a government of laws, and not of men." Ramsey Barner May 2019 #21
What we are not is a nation of equality of justice. n/t KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #25
The most transparent president/admin ever! thenelm1 May 2019 #20
Everything you said is dead on - ALSO- Welcome to Democratic Underground, thenelm1! Keep 'em coming! NBachers May 2019 #23
Please, someone, lock him up. Someone has to show them that there are CONSEQUENCES! pdsimdars May 2019 #24
They're trying to see what they can get away with. blueinredohio May 2019 #27
+1 riversedge Jun 2019 #31
yep, until we stop them! machoneman Jun 2019 #36
We are no longer a nation of laws. Princetonian Jun 2019 #32
I think I know what Sullivan should do. But what WILL he do to enforce his contempt charge? Just ancianita Jun 2019 #33

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
1. Lock him up!
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:30 PM
May 2019

Sounds like he REALLY sold America out. Shits beyond the pale. imho. This guy was a GENERAL and the trumps were warned by Pres Obama. Completely sold out to russia.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
2. Judge Sullivan
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:33 PM
May 2019

is the one who forced government to get on a plane (not tomorrow, not in an hour, NOW) and return a woman seeking asylum who they deported. I think they messed with the wrong guy.

kimbutgar

(21,027 posts)
3. If they have nothing to hide and Flynn is innocent why not release the transcripts?
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:34 PM
May 2019

Looks like a coverup to me.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
7. Why has nearly every Trump associate LIED about their contacts with Russian?
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:38 PM
May 2019

From his campaign on, they have been lying, lying when the truth is already known, lying when they dodn't need to, lying about every interaction with Russians or anything to do with Russia.

Whatever they are covering up is worse than what we already know about.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
22. I suspect there's some very sinister GOP/Russian collusion hiding in the shadows.
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:10 PM
May 2019

Perhaps big hidden RNC funding or many, many GOP politicians that Russia has serious dirt on......

As you say, it's just too stupid to lie unless there's an underlying cause. They act as if they're scared to death to speak the truth.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
28. I'm with you - they are hiding some serious dirt or major money
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:12 PM
May 2019

Just look at the mess the NRA is in since Maria Butina was uncovered - and I think that will get even messier.

I just wish it would all come out before the election next year.

yonder

(9,653 posts)
29. Yes. The turnabout of Lindsay Graham stands out for me.
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:47 PM
May 2019

Too many people have been lining up the wrong way.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
30. Another possibility that's frightening but would make sense...
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:32 PM
May 2019

is that Russia has so much compromising dirt on key GOP politicians that they have sent a not so subtle message to someone high-up in the GOP saying "if all you guys don't walk the chalk line and cover for us, we will unleash a torrent of crap that will bring your whole house down". Strict orders would then be passed down to politicians at all levels and perhaps with a few select RW media personalities in the know as well to cover for all things Russian.

That scenario certainly would explain most of the sucking up to Russia's interests as well as their refusal to address Russian election meddling.

Jarqui

(10,118 posts)
5. Sullivan was outraged by Flynn
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:11 PM
May 2019

He wanted to nail him for longer than six months.

I think what he is trying to do is let the American people get a taste of what outraged him. Those transcripts of Flynn talking with the Russians would seem to be a part of that.

Ramsey Barner

(349 posts)
6. Exactly.
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:37 PM
May 2019

And I would hate to be the Assistant US Attorney that will have to appear before Judge Sullivan without transcripts or recordings if/when the judge summons them.

Imagine: "You are to appear in court at 9:30 a.m. Monday, June 3, 2019, bearing either the ordered transcripts and recordings or comfortable clothes, preferably in orange."

tonekat

(1,810 posts)
10. Send the U.S. Marshalls
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:57 PM
May 2019

to get them to comply! Or the National Guard!

Apparently we don't have laws anymore?

people

(618 posts)
26. Judge's options
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:26 PM
May 2019

The judge should hold the U.S. attorneys in contempt of court and give them a day or so to comply with his earlier order. It's incredible to me that they are ignoring an order from a federal judge.

CaptainTruth

(6,568 posts)
14. This is AWESOME! Every time the Trump regime is given rope, they wrap it around their necks...
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:25 PM
May 2019

... & hang themselves.

The Dems are handling this so well, setting up the fight between the COURTS & Trump, so all Americans can see how Trump & Co are defying the law (thus eroding his support, & hurting Repubs who support him) & it will be the COURTS who impose penalties (fines, arrests, jail) so it is clear to voters it's a matter of justice instead of partisanship.

Kablooie

(18,603 posts)
15. A veritable parade of obstruction of justice every single day.
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:25 PM
May 2019

And openly defying US law to do it.

People will scratch their heads in disbelief when they read the history books about this time period.

machoneman

(3,994 posts)
35. What is truly amazing is that Trumpy lawyers not only lied but got caught in lies!
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jun 2019

They must be really dumb lawyers to not only lie for the Orangegrifter but also not even think their calls and conversations were recorded.

Here's a good one too. In matters related to national security (love how Repusbliscums always seem to use this in their defense) the CIA, NSA, FBI and even foreign intelligence actors may have recorded Trump's lawyers like Dowd and other evil-doer lawyers during the Russiagate investigations. How in the world could not allegedly experienced lawyers not know that our highly paid and trained experts could not or would not intercept their supposedly secret talks?


This is beyond dumb. Jeez, Trump could actually claim lawyer malfeasance, ineptitude and more in a defense. "Your honor, I didn't hire the best people!"

No shit, Sherlock!

Kablooie

(18,603 posts)
37. They seem to assume that Trump will be triumphant so they are above the law.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jun 2019

Do they think that the US will always have a criminal Republican president who is above the law from now on and they will be protected from prosecution if they commit crimes for him?

Ramsey Barner

(349 posts)
21. Indeed. John Adams thought that a republic should be "a government of laws, and not of men."
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:07 PM
May 2019

On the one hand, we no longer have a government of laws. On the other, given the Toddler in Chief and his developmentally impaired minions, we can't even claim to have a government of men!

thenelm1

(849 posts)
20. The most transparent president/admin ever!
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

Guess it depends on your definition of transparent - transparently corrupt comes to mind. In big, huge, transparent, out in the open corruption/coverups for all to see - this bullshit might play to the ignorant, willful or otherwise, base (and apparently Congressional pubbies), but one would hope anyone with more that two neurons to rub together would see this BS for what it is - the emperor has no clothes, yet parades around like he's the bestest, most majestic dunce of all time. The man is a moron. A moron who inherited big money. (The ultimate argument for a high inheritance tax.)

Why are so many of these people kowtowing to him? It makes no sense - did I say I think he's a moron?

Drumpf's delusions of grandeur will be his undoing - this incredible business man (his description), i.e. glorified landlord, has the business acuity of a holed sock. He's always been a joke in NYC, just another slumlord - who the eff ever thought that giving this douche a TV show was a good idea????? Sorry, I'll stop now - I'm just ranting at this point.

NBachers

(17,063 posts)
23. Everything you said is dead on - ALSO- Welcome to Democratic Underground, thenelm1! Keep 'em coming!
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:13 PM
May 2019

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
27. They're trying to see what they can get away with.
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:34 PM
May 2019

If they get away with this we can expect them to obstruct everything the democrats try to do because they can.

ancianita

(35,904 posts)
33. I think I know what Sullivan should do. But what WILL he do to enforce his contempt charge? Just
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jun 2019

wait until the appeal to the next highest court rules on it?

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