U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia's Power Grid
Source: New York Times
The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russias electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.
In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russias grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscows disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.
Advocates of the more aggressive strategy said it was long overdue, after years of public warnings from the Department of Homeland Security and the F.B.I. that Russia has inserted malware that could sabotage American power plants, oil and gas pipelines, or water supplies in any future conflict with the United States.
But it also carries significant risk of escalating the daily digital Cold War between Washington and Moscow.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/us/politics/trump-cyber-russia-grid.html
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Nitram
(22,794 posts)that run the power grid. If it is true that Russia has already planted malware into our power grid the idea is that if they activated the software to disrupt our system, we'd do the same to them. Publicly announcing that fact both reassures the American public that the US is not idly standing by, and lets Russia know that an attack on our system will result in immediate retaliation of the same kind.
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Nitram
(22,794 posts)announce?" Thanks for the perfunctory reflexive response to ANY SUGGESTION that a post had some inaccuracies and/or misunderstanding of an international situation. If your idea of communication is when everyone agrees with you about everything, then I guess I feel your pain. Isn't it possible that I was just trying to have a discussion about two areas where I thought I might have some insight that differed from the poster's opinion? Is that such a crime? AAARGH!!! indeed.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)And we really need to do things that we would scream bloody murder about if another country did them to us!!
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Release the pee pee video!!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Owl
(3,641 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Thats why it is being reported.
Nitram
(22,794 posts)It could be complete fabrication...
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,437 posts)Blockbuster story buried in this NYT report.
Pentagon, intelligence officials fear they cannot trust Trump enough to brief him fully on new US cyber operation against Russia for fear he will "countermand it or discuss it with foreign officials" as he did before with Russians.
Link to tweet
katusha
(809 posts)Could the source of this info have asked them to bury it because they know trump would never read this far into any story? As long as it isn't a headline or on tv it doesn't exist to trump.
demmiblue
(36,846 posts)Unbelievable.
NewDayOranges
(692 posts)Blues Heron
(5,932 posts)an eye for an eye makes the world go blind
NewDayOranges
(692 posts)the Russians won't do it again is an even worse strategy...
The Russians need to know that we can play that game, too...
Our power grids/systems are a National Security issue and have been for several decades/years. Our federal government should have decentralized our electrical power system using green/solar power years ago but Republicans have seemingly blocked every attempt to upgrade our power grid...
IT'S LIKE THE REPUBLICANS ARE WORKING FOR THE RUSSIANS and the fossil fuel industry or something...
Blues Heron
(5,932 posts)Two wrongs don't make a right. That's just fundamental, no pun intended
NewDayOranges
(692 posts)doesn't make it right? Sounds naive.
It's time you join the real world...
Blues Heron
(5,932 posts)NewDayOranges
(692 posts)And with that I'm done here. Have a great evening...
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Trump will say all is forgiven!
NBachers
(17,108 posts)It doesn't take a giant attack- a small-town hospital; a water treatment plant, a dam spillway control, a local bank, a university, a village's substation, rail controls or a gas & oil pipeline, elevators - any of these can create huge misery and injury.
They're babies playing with matches and gas already. We don't need them dead-gaming around with this shit.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Disrupting another nation like that is just fucking stupid, it sounds like some teenage hackers with nothing better to do. For the money that was spent on these efforts we should have been working toward safeguarding our elections from foreign interference, purchasing new voting machines that were more secure and provided a paper trail, and guarding against manipulation of social media.
Not to mention the fact that Putin will just ratchet up the attacks against us. JUST FUCKING STUPID.
Eugene
(61,881 posts)Source: Daily Beast
Trump Accuses New York Times of Treason for Story on U.S. Cyber Offensive Against Russia
Allison QuinnBreaking News Reporter
Published 06.15.19 9:59PM ET
President Trump has accused The New York Times of committing a virtual act of treason by publishing a story Saturday saying his administration has been targeting Russias power grid as part of an ongoing operation to counter cyber threats. Do you believe that the Failing New York Times just did a story stating that the United States is substantially increasing Cyber Attacks on Russia. This is a virtual act of Treason by a once great paper so desperate for a story, any story, even if bad for our Country, Trump wrote on Twitter late Saturday. ALSO, NOT TRUE! Anything goes with our Corrupt News Media today. They will do, or say, whatever it takes, with not even the slightest thought of consequence! These are true cowards and without doubt, THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE! he said.
The Times report relied on three-months worth of interviews with several current and former government officials, who described the deployment of American computer code into Russias electrical power grid in a move meant partly as a warning to Russian intelligence and partly as a pre-emptive strike in case of a cyberattack. Trump himself reportedly granted new authorities to the United States Cyber Command last year, and is also said to have personally signed off on an operation to take Russian internet troll farm Internet Research Agency offline during the 2018 midterm elections. National Security Adviser John Bolton also appeared to hint at a more aggressive cyber strategy toward Russia earlier this week.
We thought the response in cyberspace against electoral meddling was the highest priority last year, and so thats what we focused on. But were now opening the aperture, broadening the areas were prepared to act in, he said at a conference sponsored by The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. We will impose costs on you until you get the point.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-accuses-new-york-times-of-treason-for-story-on-us-cyber-offensive-against-russia
lark
(23,099 posts)He intends on Russia/SA/Israel interfering on his behalf and even stealing the election for him through voter hacking at the machine level or voter role hacking with the state databases.
3 - In reality, isn't this what the Pentagon is hiding from drumpf because they know he will tell his dictatorship backers
Bayard
(22,063 posts)Heal!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)Or Trump waving his dick?
hunter
(38,311 posts)Argentina, Uruguay suffer massive power blackout
Source: Deutsche Welle
Date 16.06.2019
A problem in the energy network has left two South American states cut off from power at 7:06 a.m. local time (10:06 UTC)
Energy distribution company Edesur, a major provider to the two nations, confirmed the outage in a tweet.
"A massive failure in the electrical interconnection system left all of Argentina and Uruguay without power," said Edesur. Company spokeswoman Alejandra Martinez described the power as historic, saying "nothing like this has ever happened."
https://www.dw.com/en/argentina-uruguay-paraguay-suffer-massive-power-blackout/a-49225070
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142329505