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orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:26 PM Aug 2019

FBI opens domestic terror investigation into the El Paso shooting

Source: CNN


FBI opens domestic terror investigation into the El Paso shooting

At least 20 dead in El Paso shooting
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Deadly shooting in El Paso, Texas
By Harmeet Kaur, CNN

Updated 9:56 p.m. ET, August 3, 2019
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What we're covering here
The victims: Twenty people are dead and more than two dozen are injured following a shooting at a shopping complex in El Paso, Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott said.
The suspect: The alleged shooter is 21-year-old Patrick Crusius, three sources tell CNN.
The investigation: El Paso police are working with the FBI, DEA, Sheriff's Department, federal agencies and state agencies.

26 min ago
FBI opens domestic terror investigation into the El Paso shooting
From CNN's Josh Campbell

A source familiar with the investigative process says the FBI has opened a domestic terrorism investigation into the mass shooting in El Paso to be worked concurrent to the state investigation, with Texas authorities taking the lead.

The FBI, the source indicated, is surging resources from neighboring satellite offices in Texas and assets are on standby to assist should the state request.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/el-paso-tx-shooting-live-updates/h_e751e0ad38071a2b68a1fb7d6500ce3d







Read more: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/el-paso-tx-shooting-live-updates/h_e751e0ad38071a2b68a1fb7d6500ce3d

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FBI opens domestic terror investigation into the El Paso shooting (Original Post) orangecrush Aug 2019 OP
KR! Cha Aug 2019 #1
Confiscate all guns with more than 9 bullet magazines.... at140 Aug 2019 #2
Guns use differently sized magazines though NickB79 Aug 2019 #8
With 3 caveats at140 Aug 2019 #9
Good. stevil Aug 2019 #3
Barr will shut that down. bitterross Aug 2019 #4
Yeah, it will turn into an Antifa crackdown. You think I'm joking, but I'm not. Midnight Writer Aug 2019 #7
I wouldn't put anything past them. bitterross Aug 2019 #15
The ratfucking that is going to happen in 2020 - they are playing for keeps. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #18
Barr is excrement crazytown Aug 2019 #11
About time to call these right wing white bastards what they are. Dawson Leery Aug 2019 #5
NO. Well yes,, but... pangaia Aug 2019 #10
Correct...they are accomplices BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #13
Using bastard as a negative disses everyone born outside of marriage. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2019 #19
Yep, these 4 chan Corgigal Aug 2019 #6
LOL. Barr will just steer it into oblivion. PSPS Aug 2019 #12
Yup, he'll shut it down. Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #17
To the best of my knowledge there is no federal crime called 'domestic terrorism' pecosbob Aug 2019 #14
You mean the FBI under the DOJ? 🙄 live love laugh Aug 2019 #16
I don't think this is the time to bring up gun control. Everyman Jackal Aug 2019 #20
Do you think that the FBI will meet with Individual #1? Dan Aug 2019 #21

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
8. Guns use differently sized magazines though
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 11:26 PM
Aug 2019

Any gun fed from a magazine can accept magazines of any capacity. I've seen 20-round magazines for bolt-action deer rifles, for example, but it would be ridiculous to outlaw such firearms. On the flip side, they make magazines for AR's and AK's that only hold 5 rounds.

Did you mean to say we should ban all magazines that hold more than 9 rounds?

at140

(6,110 posts)
9. With 3 caveats
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 11:41 PM
Aug 2019

1. The gun has to be capable of holding large capacity magazines
2. Gun owner would violate law if found in possession of larger than 9 bullet magazine.
3. Gun has to be semi-automatic...for example my gun does not require bolt action to fire more bullets.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
18. The ratfucking that is going to happen in 2020 - they are playing for keeps.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:07 PM
Aug 2019

We are going to need massive turnout & margins to win.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
11. Barr is excrement
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:34 AM
Aug 2019

but this is the worst kind of defeatism. Political interference is an event of such intense interest would be suicide.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. NO. Well yes,, but...
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:07 AM
Aug 2019

It is REPUBLICANS we must go after.

THEY are accomplices to murder.

They are traitors to our country.

THEY are white nationalist terrorists sympathizers.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
13. Correct...they are accomplices
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:52 AM
Aug 2019

and encourage more of these terrorist acts against fellow Americans. They have blood on their hands and this was their goal all along, just ask Bannon. He is also responsible for this.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
6. Yep, these 4 chan
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:57 PM
Aug 2019

and 8 chan cheerleading squad has to be closed.

Kind I'd sorry it's gone this way, but it must.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
14. To the best of my knowledge there is no federal crime called 'domestic terrorism'
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:57 AM
Aug 2019

so I gotta call bullshit on the FBI's characterization. Federal terrorism statutes are very narrow in scope. The maniac Coast Guard officer planning to kill members of Congress couldn't be charged with terrorism the law is so narrow in scope. They are quite correct to label it 'domestic terrorism', but there ain't no such law. The existing laws were written to deal with foreign groups and nation-states, not American citizens. One might even postulate that they were written in this narrow manner to prevent the law from being used against white Americans.

*Edit...just now read that the FBI is even walking back calling it a hate crime! Saw this coming...

 

Everyman Jackal

(271 posts)
20. I don't think this is the time to bring up gun control.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 03:43 PM
Aug 2019

For one reason you are not going to get it and for another reason, there are many people with these rifles that will not back you. Keep it all on Trump for now. Make him the bad guy, not the NRA. Shove it down his throat. We are going to need the presidency to get any action on gun control.

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