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brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 07:45 AM Sep 2019

Netanyahu Hints At Rotation With Gantz, Cites Peres-Shamir Cooperation

Source: Jerusalem Post

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called on his chief electoral rival Blue and White Party head Benny Gantz to hold talks toward the creation of a unity government, during a speech he gave at the memorial ceremony for former Israeli president Shimon Peres.

“A broad unity government is what is demanded now,” he said.

“I propose that we meet as soon as possible without preconditions to cooperate in establishing a broad unity government for all those who believe in Israel as a Jewish and democratic state," Netanyahu said. "There is no reason to go to another election. I am against it."

He recalled the unity government between Peres and his Likud rival Yitzhak Shamir that was created in the 1980s when the election results were similarly deadlocked.


Read more: https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Netanyahu-calls-for-unity-gov-with-Gantz-cites-Peretz-Shamir-cooperation-602227



I think Blue & White would be willing to consider this; as long as Netanyahu isn't part of the deal.
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Netanyahu Hints At Rotation With Gantz, Cites Peres-Shamir Cooperation (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2019 OP
As long as he's not the prime minister IronLionZion Sep 2019 #1
Yes LeftInTX Sep 2019 #8
Netanyahu should be in jail for war crimes. canuckledragger Sep 2019 #2
In 2 weeks he's headed for a hearing on corruption charges Happyhippychick Sep 2019 #3
WaPo has a breaking that says- BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #4
Between UK and Israel's government, I'm totally confused. Iliyah Sep 2019 #5
They are Parliamentary-type systems BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #7
This is why I prefer our two party system over a parliamentary system Jake Stern Sep 2019 #12
Well I think technically BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #13
I would prefer better options for Green JonLP24 Sep 2019 #14
Israel is more confusing than the UK LeftInTX Sep 2019 #9
Can't believe their governments are so dysfunctional SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #10
Netanyahu has to answer the corruption charges Maeve Sep 2019 #6
Bibi can rotate his sorry ass from his "modest home" to a jail cell. nt oasis Sep 2019 #11
+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #15
I got something Bibi can rotate on... nt. BlueIdaho Sep 2019 #16

LeftInTX

(25,363 posts)
8. Yes
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:20 PM
Sep 2019

It's gonna be a conservative government anyway. But at least from my perspective, Bibi needs to go.

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
3. In 2 weeks he's headed for a hearing on corruption charges
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:14 AM
Sep 2019

No way he's going tomstay out of jail this time and he knows it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
4. WaPo has a breaking that says-
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:22 AM
Sep 2019
Breaking: Israeli leader Netanyahu’s rival, Benny Gantz, says his party won the election, vows to lead ‘unity government’

<...>

In televised remarks later, Gantz stopped short of agreeing to meet with Netanyahu but expressed openness to the idea of a unity government, with himself as its head.

“We will listen carefully to anyone but we will not surrender to any dictates,” Gantz said in nationally televised remarks.

Gantz said that his party had won the election outright, receiving a larger share of the votes than Likud. He also said that he would continue to pursue the creation of a centrist, secular and liberal government.

Netanyahu expressed disappointment. “I was surprised and disappointed that at this time Benny Gantz still refuses to respond to my call to meet,” he said in a tweet.


(they had sent out a "correction" breaking banner to basically indicate that Gantz is grabbing the reins by claiming complete victory)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Between UK and Israel's government, I'm totally confused.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:14 AM
Sep 2019

That said, it appear that Gantz would be a better choice for PM under a unified Government.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
7. They are Parliamentary-type systems
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019

so if a particular party doesn't quite meet the requirements for number of seats to be considered a clear majority, then they have to hustle around to find other smaller parties to join them as part of a "coalition" that would allow them to reach that magic number of seats required.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
12. This is why I prefer our two party system over a parliamentary system
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:20 AM
Sep 2019

Choice in politics is much more limited and it allows for political ossification but it also keeps smaller parties from (mostly) having outsized power to act essentially as Kingmakers.


Could you imagine Obama having to suck up to the Jill Stein or Gary Johnson to have any chance to govern?

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
13. Well I think technically
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

we do the same thing but instead of calling the different factions "parties", we call them "wings of a party". So even though we have basicaly reduced it down to two major parties (not considering the Libertarians or Greens or Constitution parties as "major" ), you have the same type of cajoling and coalition-building that goes on within a party (and you hear that with terms like "the progressive wing" or "the blue dogs" or "the centrist/moderate wing", etc.).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. I would prefer better options for Green
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:09 AM
Sep 2019

But I would like your scenario of a parliamentary as I feel I would have more of voice than I do under a centrist party.

Either that or ranked choice voting.

Lesser of two evils is a Democratic Party thing.

LeftInTX

(25,363 posts)
9. Israel is more confusing than the UK
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:27 PM
Sep 2019

They have more political parties with names that I don't understand, whereas the UK is dominated by two major parties.

Also in Israel, members of parliament (Knesset) are not elected. Voters go to the poll and vote for a party and representatives are appointed by the party.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
6. Netanyahu has to answer the corruption charges
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:18 AM
Sep 2019

Otherwise, their justice system will be seen as bogus.

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