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demmiblue

(39,720 posts)
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:32 PM Sep 2019

Mulvaney on shaky ground in wake of whistleblower fallout, sources say

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Source: CNN

(CNN)Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney is on shaky ground in the wake of a bad week for President Trump, according to multiple sources with knowledge of discussions surrounding the whistleblower fallout.

The sources say the President is not upset with Mulvaney for the White House releasing the summary of his July 25 call with Ukraine's leader or the whistleblower complaint because he had been convinced that it was necessary.

What Trump and other aides are frustrated with, according to the sources, is that Mulvaney did not have a strategy for defending and explaining the contents of those documents as soon as they were publicly released.

One of the sources says it's not just the President, but also widespread frustration in the White House about the lack of a response plan to deal with the fallout after the release of the whistleblower complaint ignited more controversy surrounding the President. The sources say Mulvaney is taking the heat for that.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/mick-mulvaney-impeachment-inquiry-donald-trump/index.html



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Mulvaney on shaky ground in wake of whistleblower fallout, sources say (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2019 OP
Slick Mick is such a true believer bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #1
Guess Don should have gotten the Little Golden Book version of his summary so he would have Vinca Sep 2019 #2
Malarkey Mulvaney's been acting as chief of staff almost as long as Cheeto's been acting as prez sandensea Sep 2019 #3
In other words, Dumpty is pissed because no one was there to clean up his mess for him flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #4
The tRump circle is not a team; it eats itself. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #5
I'll say this for Mulvaney True Dough Sep 2019 #6
Isn't Mulvaney's philosophy to Let Trump Be Trump? tanyev Sep 2019 #7
Mulvaney is an idiot, but how do you defend from a confession? hahaha fuck em all. TeamPooka Sep 2019 #8
"Waddya mean? You can't defend obvious illegality? You're meant to do everything!" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #9
So, tRump is upset because Mulvaney isn't as good at lying and conning as he is. yaesu Sep 2019 #10
What blows my mind is that they thought a defense was even possible in the first place. Jedi Guy Sep 2019 #11
Oh No's!!! sheshe2 Sep 2019 #12
B-B-But isn't it Rudy's job to put the spin on crimes... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2019 #17
Some things just can't be spun, no matter how good the spinner is : marble falls Sep 2019 #13
How exactly did they expect Mulvaney to defend the indefensible? cstanleytech Sep 2019 #14
Fall guy # (what are we up to now? (Flynn, Manafort, KPN Sep 2019 #15
Chapter ?? of He Who Must Be Blamed instead of a 'stable genius". AKing Sep 2019 #16
Love it! Couldn't happen to a bigger sociopath. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2019 #18
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Sep 2019 #19

bucolic_frolic

(55,141 posts)
1. Slick Mick is such a true believer
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:36 PM
Sep 2019

in a past life he must have been the executioner

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
2. Guess Don should have gotten the Little Golden Book version of his summary so he would have
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:36 PM
Sep 2019

known what it said. And remember . . . this is just a summary. 11 minutes of 30. The White House has voice recognition software for the transcriptionists so the whole thing must be on audio somewhere - probably in a vault at Fort Knox and guarded by a squad of heavily-armed goons.

sandensea

(23,343 posts)
3. Malarkey Mulvaney's been acting as chief of staff almost as long as Cheeto's been acting as prez
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:38 PM
Sep 2019

They should put on a play by now - in Ft. Leavenworth.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
4. In other words, Dumpty is pissed because no one was there to clean up his mess for him
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:41 PM
Sep 2019

Because, leadership and accountability.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
5. The tRump circle is not a team; it eats itself. . . . nt
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:44 PM
Sep 2019

True Dough

(26,667 posts)
6. I'll say this for Mulvaney
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:51 PM
Sep 2019

He's far more convincing than most of Trump's sycophants. Mick can talk a good and convincing game. I don't buy what he's selling but he has surely persuaded some rubes.

tanyev

(49,296 posts)
7. Isn't Mulvaney's philosophy to Let Trump Be Trump?
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:51 PM
Sep 2019

I think that philosophy is reaching its inevitable conclusion.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
8. Mulvaney is an idiot, but how do you defend from a confession? hahaha fuck em all.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:55 PM
Sep 2019

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
9. "Waddya mean? You can't defend obvious illegality? You're meant to do everything!"
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:55 PM
Sep 2019

There was me thinking Mulvaney's trouble is that he's implicated in the illegality:

The chairs of the House Budget and Appropriations committees took the Office of Management and Budget to task Friday for possibly illegally withholding foreign aid funds appropriated by Congress including assistance to Ukraine.

In a letter to acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and acting Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought, Budget Chairman John Yarmuth and Appropriations Chairwoman Nita M. Lowey said they are concerned OMB actions that withheld military aid to Ukraine “constitute unlawful impoundments in violation” of the landmark 1974 budget law.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/democratic-committee-leaders-demand-budget-documents-related-ukraine-aid-holdup

No, apparently it's fine to break the law, just not fine to not have excuses for Trump breaking the law ...

yaesu

(9,328 posts)
10. So, tRump is upset because Mulvaney isn't as good at lying and conning as he is.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

Jedi Guy

(3,477 posts)
11. What blows my mind is that they thought a defense was even possible in the first place.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

The best (term used extremely loosely) argument they've been able to muster thus far is, "Trump didn't use the words 'quid pro quo' so clearly it wasn't a quid pro quo. He has to say those exact words for that to be the case." It's laughable.

Trump could resign with the understanding that Pence would pardon him. But Pence, of course, knows he'd be the one in the hot seat in that event, and you know neither one trusts the other to look out for him. They must be shipping Tums to the White House by the crate these days.

sheshe2

(97,629 posts)
12. Oh No's!!!
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:10 PM
Sep 2019
What Trump and other aides are frustrated with, according to the sources, is that Mulvaney did not have a strategy for defending and explaining the contents of those documents as soon as they were publicly released.


Hard to defend the indefensible. His words, plain as the nose on his face.

These people that he surrounds himself with? They are as stupid as he is. He claims to hire the best of the best...best what, morons?

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,307 posts)
17. B-B-But isn't it Rudy's job to put the spin on crimes...
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 10:24 PM
Sep 2019

... for this team? It sure would appear so to me.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
13. Some things just can't be spun, no matter how good the spinner is :
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:58 PM
Sep 2019

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
14. How exactly did they expect Mulvaney to defend the indefensible?
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:03 PM
Sep 2019

KPN

(17,377 posts)
15. Fall guy # (what are we up to now? (Flynn, Manafort,
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 09:13 PM
Sep 2019

...?)

Better find one of those spider holes Saddam hid in soon fat ass. We’re coming for you.

AKing

(511 posts)
16. Chapter ?? of He Who Must Be Blamed instead of a 'stable genius".
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 09:24 PM
Sep 2019
 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
18. Love it! Couldn't happen to a bigger sociopath. nt
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:12 PM
Sep 2019

Omaha Steve

(109,229 posts)
19. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 11:44 AM
Sep 2019

Opinions from multiple unnamed sources about shaky ground for Mulvaney are not LBN.

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