Trump may have lied to Mueller, House Democrats say

[riversedge]

Source: Politico



Dems believe the special counsel's grand-jury materials could aid their Ukraine investigation, according to a court filing.

By ANDREW DESIDERIO Updated 09/30/2019 08:21 PM EDT


Lawyers for the House of Representatives revealed on Monday that they have reason to believe that the grand-jury redactions in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report show that President Donald Trump lied about his knowledge of his campaign’s contacts with WikiLeaks.

The attorneys made the stunning suggestion in a court filing as part of the House Judiciary Committee’s bid for Mueller’s grand-jury materials, which have remained secret by law.

“Not only could those materials demonstrate the president’s motives for obstructing the special counsel’s investigation, they also could reveal that Trump was aware of his campaign’s contacts with WikiLeaks,” the lawyers wrote in the filing, which was in response to the Justice Department’s opposition to the disclosure of the grand-jury information.

To back up their claim, the House’s legal team — led by House General Counsel Douglas Letter — cited a passage in Mueller’s report about former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s testimony that he “recalled” Trump asking to be kept “updated” about WikiLeaks’ disclosures of Democratic National Committee emails. There is a grand-jury redaction in that passage, the lawyers note........................................

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/30/trump-mueller-house-democrats-lie-1520156

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This article will probably get another 20 or so vile tweets out of Trump??
He is is serious trouble. And I am enjoying it.

Link to tweet

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[regnaD kciN]

1. WOW...

If this turns out to be proven, it will be stunning to watch the mental gymnastics from Republicans who once claimed that lying about a blowjob was grounds for removal from office because “perjury is perjury is perjury” shrug this case of lying under oath off as “no big deal.”

[Lock him up.]

33. Please make it so for Leningrad Lindsay to STFU embarassed... nt

[elleng]

2. No sh*t, sherlock!

He lies about EVERYTHING!!!

[qazplm135]

3. I'm shocked

SHOCKED I tell you.

Well...

actually...

Not shocked at all.

[BlueIdaho]

4. May Have? Seriously? nt.

[thenelm1]

17. Duh.

Of course he lied. It's what he does - about everything!

[bluestarone]

5. We all feel he did. and why not?

Mueller could NOT indict a sitting president right?

[Hal Zerozerozeronine]

6. In Other News.........

Study Finds Jumping From Airplane Without Parachute May Be Detrimental To Health

[ancianita]

7. If Mueller brings in the evidence, there goes yet another article of impeachment.

[me_not_you]

8. clutches pearls

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/27/is-trump-too-much-of-a-perjury-risk-for-potential-lawyers-that-and-other-possibilities/

[PSPS]

9. LOL. "may have" LOL

[bucolic_frolic]

10. I'm feeling good about this these days

Watergate was broken by a couple of young, not overly experienced Washington Post reporters who had bits of guidance, their editor's support, and unending energy.

This Trump investigation has been going on for more than 2 years, and now has teams of top notch prosecutors, lawyers, researchers, staff, as well as government bureaucrats who are starting to leak, 10 or 20 times of the best journalists of our day, and full public view - nothing gets hidden forever nowadays - of Twitter, cable tv, instant mass media.

From this standpoint, I say to all Duers: I like our chances. Bad guys cannot win in this situation. It just can't happen.

[volstork]

11. Man,

I so hope you are right!

[yaesu]

12. tRump lying??? I'm still looking for proof he told the truth at least once. nt

[jayschool2013]

26. At the inauguration, he said:

"I, Donald J. Trump." That was true. The rest was just bullshit, and he's lengthened that skein in the intervening 32 months.

[lagomorph777]

41. "I" would imply that he is in some fashion, a human being.

So that was a lie, too.

[jayschool2013]

44. From a Cartesian perspective

"Cogito ergo sum" doesn't apply to Trump, so you're right.

[bitterross]

13. They could have just said "Well, Trump spoke, so it must been a lie."

The odds are certainly in their favor. I'd love to file a brief with the court that points out, on the record, how often he lies.

[Nitram]

14. Keep the revelations coming. There is no doubt we're just seeing the tip of the Titanic.

[Cartaphelius]

15. Wait a minute

Trump lied on the questions Mueller sent him.

And nothing was done.

[Six117]

16. It lied

F'real, f'real tho.... Smdh

[cstanleytech]

18. Keep the focus on the Ukraine impeachment folks do not fall for the pretty little lure.

[gademocrat7]

19. The truth is coming out.

[FakeNoose]

20. The orange weasel will say he wasn't under oath

That's the only defense Repukes have any more. If they aren't "under oath" they can say whatever they want, and it doesn't mean shit.

[exboyfil]

27. Wasn't the point of the questions

that they were under oath. Massaged by attorneys and he still lied. It is the Bill Clinton Holy Grail. The one thing they absolutely had to avoid.

Of course you are right about sworn and its potential importance to Evangelicals. Someone made this point a few days about about Kavanaugh asked to affirm his testimony. Grassley asked Ford to swear in contrast. Kavanaugh swore during his installation though.

[lagomorph777]

42. He swore a blue streak and cried and threw fits on the stand.

He demonstrated that he fits in perfectly in Trumpworld.

[cstanleytech]

31. Martha Stewart might have an opinion on if you can be convicted of lying to government agents

while not under oath.

[Wounded Bear]

21. Easy assumption to make. Trump lies about everything...

including things he doesn't need to lie about.

[mwooldri]

22. Is this a legal "may have"?

Cos the firefighters at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave have been working overtime since 2017 and Brooks Brothers have opened up a factory next door ... the president's pants have been spontaneously combusting every time he opens his mouth or goes on Twitter.

[Blue Owl]

23. I'd be more shocked to learn that tRump actually spoke a truth

His whole existence is a big, fat lie...

[dalton99a]

24. Of course he lied. About everything.

Impulsively, compulsively, incessantly

[BigMin28]

28. Even when the truth would serve him better

[dalton99a]

30. Yes. Stupidly.

[sakabatou]

25. When does the orange fucker ever tell the truth?

[cstanleytech]

32. When no words are coming out of his mouth. nt

[lagomorph777]

43. But he can't hide his lyin' eyes.

Even his farts are lies.

[Skittles]

29. gee, ya THINK?

the man lies constantly, EVERY FUCKING DAY

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. It would also mean Barr obstructed justice by redacting that part. . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. It has already been strongly reported he HID evidence from Mueller.

Did the White House Hide a Bombshell Memo From Mueller? (Slate)

By Dahlia Lithwick
Sept 28, 20194:30 PM

On Friday night the Washington Post dropped another blockbuster report in the midst of a fast-unspooling scandal involving Donald Trump’s improper communications with foreign officials. It raises a worrying question: Was there a memorandum that should have been produced to the Mueller probe that was never turned over?

[Judi Lynn]

36. Thank you, riversedge. n/t

[truthisfreedom]

37. It's taken a while, but the schadenfreude is strong this week.

Goddamned motherfucking piece of shit.

[Mike Nelson]

38. May?

... it has been stated, his written answers were dishonest. I thought that came out during the Mueller testimony?

[Stuart G]

39. riverside, Thank You for your post !!! k and r

[hughee99]

40. Honestly, I wasn't aware that Trump answered questions from either Mueller

Or the grand jury.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

45. Rather likely he did