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onetexan

(13,040 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:07 PM Oct 2019

USAToday: Senator says he was blocked by Trump from telling Ukraine foreign aid was coming

Source: USAToday

U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson says he was blocked by President Donald Trump from telling Ukraine's president that U.S. aid was on its way amid accusations Trump was withholding it until the eastern European nation investigated his political rival.
Trump rejected Johnson's request in August after also refusing in May to back new Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the Oshkosh Republican told reporters Friday.
“I was surprised by the president’s reaction and realized we had a sales job to do,” Johnson said during a constituent stop in Sheboygan. “I tried to convince him (in August) to give me the authority to tell President Zelensky that we were going to provide that. Now, I didn’t succeed."

With his comments Friday, Johnson made clear that he was aware of allegations Trump was withholding aid to Ukraine for political reasons weeks before the public knew.
Trump, who faces a fast-moving impeachment inquiry over the matter, has denied the claim and Johnson has defended the president — but Johnson's story helps House Democrats confirm a key aspect of the probe.

Johnson was part of a delegation that attended Zelensky’s inauguration in May. He and others briefed Trump on the inauguration and urged Trump to back Zelensky but the president resisted the idea, Johnson said Friday. Johnson told the Wall Street Journal on Friday that Sondland told him that Ukraine would appoint a prosecutor who would, as Johnson put it, work to "get to the bottom of what happened in 2016 — if President Trump has that confidence, then he’ll release the military spending."

“At that suggestion, I winced,” Johnson told the Wall Street Journal. “My reaction was: Oh, God. I don’t want to see those two things combined.” He said he asked Trump about it and the president denied it.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/04/ron-johnson-says-trump-blocked-him-assuring-ukraine-aid/3868691002/



More details on the article. Note Johnson is Republican. More pieces of the puzzle coming together!
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USAToday: Senator says he was blocked by Trump from telling Ukraine foreign aid was coming (Original Post) onetexan Oct 2019 OP
Part of the group that spent the 4th of July in Russia last year. Tech Oct 2019 #1
Interesting ck4829 Oct 2019 #25
So when GOP Johnson asked Trump he denied it. That shows conscience of guilt. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #2
Dumpster lies like he breathes, so i don't think it's conscience of guilt but to obfuscate. onetexan Oct 2019 #4
Wow.. surprised at repub Ron Johnson. Cha Oct 2019 #3
Guy's a bad egg Cha, his coming out is to preempt whatever consequences are coming his way later onetexan Oct 2019 #8
It's a good sign then.. Cha Oct 2019 #9
Agree with onetexan.... ewagner Oct 2019 #14
Absolutely, this isnt a lone instance, its a coordinated effort involving many players onetexan Oct 2019 #15
"If it doesn't directly benefit him (at least politically) he won't do it... " Marcuse Oct 2019 #19
You know it ck4829 Oct 2019 #24
He was the one just screaming that he doesn't trust dawg day Oct 2019 #27
I'm sorry. RoJo is a bad person. AllyCat Oct 2019 #5
RJ is in deed a bad guy, &yes he's trying to save his own hyde onetexan Oct 2019 #7
Agree...n/t ewagner Oct 2019 #16
Another Nail for Donny's Political Hal Zerozerozeronine Oct 2019 #6
Ha ck4829 Oct 2019 #23
These GOP Senators are so dumb bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #10
Johnson needs to be subpoenaed to appear and give testimony on this beachbumbob Oct 2019 #11
Agree. Put Ron Johnson under fire. NOW riversedge Oct 2019 #12
nothing better than placing people under oath infront of the american people. beachbumbob Oct 2019 #13
Yep ck4829 Oct 2019 #22
"At that suggestion, I winced," Johnson told the Wall Street Journal. Hotler Oct 2019 #17
So, Ronny's throwing Donny under the bus. lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #18
he was a shit on meet the press orleans Oct 2019 #20
I think he was taken to the wood shed for what he said on Friday. Chuck Tod asked him about it and wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #26
K&R ck4829 Oct 2019 #21

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
2. So when GOP Johnson asked Trump he denied it. That shows conscience of guilt.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:23 AM
Oct 2019

If it was a "perfect" phone call and everything was "beautiful", why would he deny it to a Republican Senator?

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
4. Dumpster lies like he breathes, so i don't think it's conscience of guilt but to obfuscate.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:49 AM
Oct 2019

Regardless, this further corroborates the whistleblower's story. If Republican senators are arguing there's no quid pro quo, it is confirmed by the texts revealed by Volker, and now by Ron Johnson's story. I'm guessing Johnson came out with it for self preservation purposes - to get out in front and minimize damage to himself, realizing sooner or later he will be roped into it as Schiff & team uncover the whole story.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
8. Guy's a bad egg Cha, his coming out is to preempt whatever consequences are coming his way later
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:36 AM
Oct 2019

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
14. Agree with onetexan....
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:28 AM
Oct 2019

Johnson is totally self-serving....

If it doesn't directly benefit him (at least politically) he won't do it...

This makes me think that Republicans in certain circles KNOW there is a shit-storm coming and are trying to seek cover before it hit...

also....

Johnson has not been known as the brightest of the Senators....what he has done here is politically about as ham-fisted as you can get.

Bottom line?

Something sinister is about to come out.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
15. Absolutely, this isnt a lone instance, its a coordinated effort involving many players
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:48 AM
Oct 2019

Frightening thought but also inyriguing how the plot thickens

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
19. "If it doesn't directly benefit him (at least politically) he won't do it... "
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 02:06 PM
Oct 2019
Last year, Sens. Rob Portman (R., Ohio), Mark Kirk (R., Ill.) and Lisa Murkowski (R., Alaska) publicly announced support for gay marriage. Mr. Portman reversed his stance when his son came out in 2011, and publicized this decision last year.

"Knowing that my son is gay prompted me to consider the issue from another perspective: that of a dad who wants all three of his kids to lead happy, meaningful lives with the people they love, a blessing Jane and I have shared for 26 years," he wrote.[link:https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/BL-WB-46835?responsive=y|

AllyCat

(16,186 posts)
5. I'm sorry. RoJo is a bad person.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:35 AM
Oct 2019

He sees people making the connection between him and Russia with his little trip there last year and is trying to figure out how to get out of trouble. I don’t trust him as far as I can spit.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
7. RJ is in deed a bad guy, &yes he's trying to save his own hyde
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:34 AM
Oct 2019

Now that this whole sham is coming to light. But his admission corroborates the veracity of the whistleblower & Volker's story. That is the point of the article.

bucolic_frolic

(43,152 posts)
10. These GOP Senators are so dumb
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:06 AM
Oct 2019

Trump is micromanaging foreign aid? Does he understand what foreign aid is? They should know if Trump is doing anything it's for his own benefit and purposes. They really should know that by now. So Trump asking to withhold aid should have rung alarm bells.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
11. Johnson needs to be subpoenaed to appear and give testimony on this
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:55 AM
Oct 2019

as well as other GOP politicians and officials

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
13. nothing better than placing people under oath infront of the american people.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:24 AM
Oct 2019

ME? I can;t wait to hear some of these people take the 5th when they ordered to appear and talk, There only recourse is take the 5th

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
17. "At that suggestion, I winced," Johnson told the Wall Street Journal.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:19 AM
Oct 2019

“My reaction was: Oh, God. I don’t want to see those two things combined.”

I don't believe that for a second. Those fuckers never know the difference between right and wrong. Theyspew it only when called on it.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
26. I think he was taken to the wood shed for what he said on Friday. Chuck Tod asked him about it and
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 08:09 AM
Oct 2019

all he did was recite conspiracy theories.

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