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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:10 AM Oct 2019

House Democrats tap impeachment gusher

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Axios

The White House is tense — and some aides are frantic — as Democrats on Capitol Hill tap a gusher of revelations that paint an increasingly vivid portrait of President Trump's unrestrained conduct of foreign policy.

Why it matters: Democrats are moving fast. Letters to potential witnesses reveal the breadth and speed at which the inquiry is unfolding, a stark contrast to the Mueller report which stretched over nearly two years.
* The probe now reaches into the Pentagon, with Democrats sending a letter demanding the appearance of Acting Assistant Defense Secretary for International Security Affairs Kathryn Wheelbarger.

Fiona Hill, Trump's former National Security Council senior director for Europe and Russia, testified yesterday that then-national security adviser John Bolton told her to notify the NSC's chief lawyer about a rogue effort by EU ambassador Gordon Sondland, Rudy Giuliani and acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, the N.Y. Times reports.
* "I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up," Bolton instructed Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to the Times.
* "Giuliani’s a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up," Hill, during 9+ hours behind closed doors at the House Intelligence Committee, quoted Bolton as saying.

Some White House officials are demoralized, amid unusual chaos and uncertainty, even for this West Wing, according to a former top Trump official.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/ukraine-investigation-trump-impeachment-house-democrats-9cd05e69-c5ec-457c-b7dc-44423da3fab7.html

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House Democrats tap impeachment gusher (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2019 OP
Can't wait for the day the House votes to impeach! Lonestarblue Oct 2019 #1
Can't wait for the day Rudy is sent off to prison packman Oct 2019 #19
So even John Bolton had a scruple. ananda Oct 2019 #2
Really.. when something repulses HIM, Amimnoch Oct 2019 #3
I'll say he has a scruple if ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #5
Protection and I think he HATES RG. efhmc Oct 2019 #13
Who doesn't? ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #20
Bolton's a warmonger, but he's not stupid DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #7
ONE scruple riversedge Oct 2019 #8
Bolton really believes Putin is an enemy and up to no good. dalton99a Oct 2019 #10
Yeah PatSeg Oct 2019 #11
Yep. This is that bad. paleotn Oct 2019 #12
Blow, baby, blow! calimary Oct 2019 #4
Public opinion is growing for impeachment, gab13by13 Oct 2019 #6
Bolton?!? orangecrush Oct 2019 #9
I'd say that's a pretty accurate characterization of Bolton. patphil Oct 2019 #18
"Democrats are moving fast." IronLionZion Oct 2019 #14
Hey White House officials NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #15
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2019 #16
Then one day he was shootin at some food... Mc Mike Oct 2019 #17
So when does Bolton get his subpoena? Bayard Oct 2019 #21
The mood in the country is greatly improving bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #22
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Oct 2019 #23

Lonestarblue

(13,560 posts)
1. Can't wait for the day the House votes to impeach!
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:34 AM
Oct 2019

There is some hope that the Senate could convict unless McConnell is unable to prevent a trial. If a trial happens, it is Chief Justice Roberts who presides. The first thing he should do (though I have no assurance that he will) is obtain the transcripts of Trump’s calls with foreign leaders that have been put on a secret server. I suspect that Trump has committed treason and even open trading of US foreign policies for future investments in his business. Senators would have a hard time not voting to remove if the transcripts show criminal acts. May not happen, but I can dream.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
19. Can't wait for the day Rudy is sent off to prison
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:26 AM
Oct 2019

He's giving Trump a real run for the money as "People I would like to see jailed".

ananda

(35,508 posts)
2. So even John Bolton had a scruple.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:17 AM
Oct 2019

Wow

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
3. Really.. when something repulses HIM,
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:23 AM
Oct 2019

you KNOW you've hit rock bottom.

aggiesal

(10,915 posts)
5. I'll say he has a scruple if ...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:29 AM
Oct 2019

he’s the whistle blower, otherwise I think he’s just protecting his a$$!

efhmc

(16,990 posts)
13. Protection and I think he HATES RG.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:29 AM
Oct 2019

aggiesal

(10,915 posts)
20. Who doesn't? ...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:47 AM
Oct 2019

He's taken that America's Mayor BS, beyond its expiration date.
Very annoying.

Tried to leverage that during his presidential campaign, but didn't go too far.

I'm no prince charming, but it looks like Rudy hit every branch down, when he fell out of the ugly tree.

DeminPennswoods

(17,580 posts)
7. Bolton's a warmonger, but he's not stupid
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:32 AM
Oct 2019

nt

riversedge

(81,537 posts)
8. ONE scruple
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:54 AM
Oct 2019

dalton99a

(95,252 posts)
10. Bolton really believes Putin is an enemy and up to no good.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:07 AM
Oct 2019

PatSeg

(53,544 posts)
11. Yeah
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:13 AM
Oct 2019

For a nano second I actually admired him. I suppose everyone has a shiny moment now and then, except Donald Trump that is.

paleotn

(22,733 posts)
12. Yep. This is that bad.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:26 AM
Oct 2019

calimary

(90,775 posts)
4. Blow, baby, blow!
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:25 AM
Oct 2019

gab13by13

(32,763 posts)
6. Public opinion is growing for impeachment,
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:31 AM
Oct 2019

when Trump becomes a liability to Republican Senators they will convict.

orangecrush

(31,140 posts)
9. Bolton?!?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:04 AM
Oct 2019

Sounds like he knew there would be legal jeopardy, and he wanted no part of it.

patphil

(9,225 posts)
18. I'd say that's a pretty accurate characterization of Bolton.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:17 AM
Oct 2019

He's an asshole, but he's still an American, and still a patriot in his own way.
Not clean enough to blow the whistle on this whole mess himself, but not corrupt enough to be a part of it.

IronLionZion

(51,550 posts)
14. "Democrats are moving fast."
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:34 AM
Oct 2019



"Giuliani’s a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up,"

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
15. Hey White House officials
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:37 AM
Oct 2019

if you're demoralized, you can get back some self-respect and salvage your reputation by flipping on Trump and testifying to Congress. Be a patriot and not a co-conspirator.

H2O Man

(79,250 posts)
16. Recommended.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:49 AM
Oct 2019

This is a good thing.

Mc Mike

(9,261 posts)
17. Then one day he was shootin at some food...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:58 AM
Oct 2019

Cue the banjos.

Bayard

(30,271 posts)
21. So when does Bolton get his subpoena?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:47 AM
Oct 2019

I'm sure supposed presidential privilege will be all over that, but what are they going to do to him now?

bucolic_frolic

(55,816 posts)
22. The mood in the country is greatly improving
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:04 PM
Oct 2019

since impeachment inquiry began. You can feel a sigh of relief that says 'sometime, perhaps soon, this nightmare is going to end.' I think it's because while they can still wreak havoc, they do not have the power of popular support and force comparable to the German Nazi party in the 1930s.

Omaha Steve

(109,960 posts)
23. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:17 PM
Oct 2019

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