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Judi Lynn

(160,449 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:42 PM Oct 2019

Most overrated? Mattis laughs off Trump barb at charity gala

Source: Associated Press


Tom Mcelroy, Associated Press Updated 10:27 pm CDT, Thursday, October 17, 2019



NEW YORK (AP) — Former U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis is laughing off an insult hurled at him by President Donald Trump.

Speaking at a New York charity event Thursday the day after Trump demeaned him as "the world's most overrated general," Mattis joked that he took it as a compliment.

"I'm not just an overrated general. I'm the greatest, the world's most overrated," he told diners at the annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner.

"I'm honored to be considered that by Donald Trump because he also called Meryl Streep an overrated actress," he said. "So I guess I'm the Meryl Streep of generals, and frankly that sounds pretty good to me."


Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Overrated-general-Mattis-zings-Trump-at-NY-14543330.php

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Most overrated? Mattis laughs off Trump barb at charity gala (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2019 OP
Military men like Mattis, McRaven, and others are likely to endorse blm Oct 2019 #1
Hope so. MontanaMama Oct 2019 #2
✔️ blm Oct 2019 #3
NEW: Former Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis roasts Pres. Trump: "I earned my spurs on the battle Gothmog Oct 2019 #4
OMG! That's tremendous! Whoa! Boom! Perfect. Thank you, so very much! n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2019 #6
Trump's favorite military leader is Colonel Sanders IronLionZion Oct 2019 #19
This comment.... Wuddles440 Oct 2019 #21
Re: His Book Bigredhunk Oct 2019 #5
All fun and games aside, Mattis should speak up. djacq Oct 2019 #7
Meryl Streep overrated? elias7 Oct 2019 #8
Trump called her overrated. Mattis is saying he is in good company. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2019 #9
Trump probably sees her as overrated because she doesn't drop trou a lot, Judi Lynn Oct 2019 #10
Streep got his attention. irisblue Oct 2019 #13
MAD DOG Mattis IS AN ASS:broke convention on generals being Sec Def, nomalizing DT, and is a killer Dorn Oct 2019 #11
Have you read his national security strategy? Here is.. reACTIONary Oct 2019 #15
Quite a read and quite are load of Dorn Oct 2019 #18
seems like he relies on some standard truisms... reACTIONary Oct 2019 #22
I know people who served under his command rpannier Oct 2019 #16
I've attended briefings by civil servants who worked with him.... reACTIONary Oct 2019 #23
"The only person in the military Trump thinks is not overrated is Col Sanders" . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #12
yuk yuk Skittles Oct 2019 #14
Yawn rpannier Oct 2019 #17
You mean: He has been defending the Military Industrial Complex Dorn Oct 2019 #20
No. I don't think that is what was meant. I think... reACTIONary Oct 2019 #24
I hear ya. The Military zentrum Oct 2019 #25
I served too Skittles Oct 2019 #26
Rec only becuz this probably pisses off trump . Mattis was a trump stooge who parted ways lunasun Oct 2019 #27

blm

(113,008 posts)
1. Military men like Mattis, McRaven, and others are likely to endorse
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:50 PM
Oct 2019

and stand with the Democrats in opposing Trump.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
2. Hope so.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 12:21 AM
Oct 2019

I would add that their country needs them to step it up and tell Congress all they know NOW. This is war. A cute tweet or snarky comment won’t cut it going forward.

Bigredhunk

(1,348 posts)
5. Re: His Book
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 01:57 AM
Oct 2019

I was going to buy his book when it was released. According to Eric Boehlert though, he took shots at President Obama but declined to go after Tangeranus - something about it not being the time to criticize b/c he's the sitting (p)resident. Decided against it.

djacq

(1,633 posts)
7. All fun and games aside, Mattis should speak up.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 02:45 AM
Oct 2019

If hundreds of experts can call out on the "clear and present danger" of Orange POTUS, so can he.

elias7

(3,991 posts)
8. Meryl Streep overrated?
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 03:48 AM
Oct 2019

I hardly think that’s a good comparison or joke. In fact, it’s a dig at Meryl Streep

Judi Lynn

(160,449 posts)
10. Trump probably sees her as overrated because she doesn't drop trou a lot,
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:26 AM
Oct 2019

and hasn't done films with car chases, and a lot of shooting.

Can't keep his attention, probably, without doing XXX movies.

Dorn

(523 posts)
11. MAD DOG Mattis IS AN ASS:broke convention on generals being Sec Def, nomalizing DT, and is a killer
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:46 AM
Oct 2019

Because Mad Dog has lightly dissed DT do not make him a good guy; he likes to kill, helped destroy many people, and destroy our country's military standards.

Dorn

(523 posts)
18. Quite a read and quite are load of
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:17 AM
Oct 2019

I love these bits:
* "The surest way to prevent war is to be prepared to win on" -- A great bit of deep deep thought
* "Professional Military Education (PME). PME has stagnated, focused more on the accomplishment of mandatory credit at the expense of lethality and ingenuity." -- How the holy hell can that happen? We spend trillions on 'defense' and we are just passing up soldiers!? This is an enormous issue and he passes it off as a minor item.
* "Each ally and partner is unique." -- Sounds like this paper was not long enough so he padded it.

He agreed to break a tradition of having a civilian military and just because he has now lightly dissed Trump does not undo this life long ass kisser who was clearly passed up on his own PMEs.

reACTIONary

(5,768 posts)
22. seems like he relies on some standard truisms...
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:43 AM
Oct 2019

Truisms are often true.

If I understand his thinking, the salient points are the identification of China and Russia as our major national security concern, as opposed to counterinsurgency and non-state actors. He is concerned about increasing lethality, and I believe he means in the context of major military engagement against major world powers. I think he believes that increased concern with counter insurgency and non state threats has eroded our capabilities against those powers.

I don't believe that his comments about mandatory course work means "passing up". I think he means that the curriculum needs to be overhauled to better align it with materialistic goals.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
16. I know people who served under his command
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:33 AM
Oct 2019

They'll gladly tell you, "You're wrong. Especially on your last point"

reACTIONary

(5,768 posts)
23. I've attended briefings by civil servants who worked with him....
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:47 AM
Oct 2019

.... they would concur with the people you know.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
17. Yawn
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:34 AM
Oct 2019

The guy who has been working to protect America for three decades does not need to answer to you
I served in the army, not ever with or under him, but I know a few people who have served with and under him and they'll all tell you he is a true patriot and has been defending America

Dorn

(523 posts)
20. You mean: He has been defending the Military Industrial Complex
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:28 AM
Oct 2019

Just like all of the other 'retired' generals he supports and defends the industry that kills poor people in foreign lands -- a man without honor -- a man who should be shunned.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
25. I hear ya. The Military
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 12:27 PM
Oct 2019

...Brass is always fighting to defend the military-industrial complex, endless arms sales, endless colonial style wars, endless creation of desperate refugees.

Mattis is no General Smedley who said "War is a racket". Or Eisenhower for that matter, who said, on his retirement, "Beware the military industrial complex". He knew.



Skittles

(153,111 posts)
26. I served too
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 05:32 PM
Oct 2019

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and people who worked for Trump who are not coming out to help defeat him MAKE ME SICK

he needs to do more than make jokes

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/generals-donald-trump-military-criticism

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