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Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:07 AM

Rep. Katie Hill admits to relationship with campaign staffer amid ethics probe

Source: The Hill

Rep. Katie Hill (D-Calif.) late Wednesday admitted to an "inappropriate" relationship with a campaign aide as she faces a House investigation over allegations of being romantically involved with a congressional staffer.

Hill said in a letter to constituents that she hopes she can "put to rest some of the gossip, innuendo and lies," adding that she engaged in the relationship with a campaign aide "despite my better judgement."

"During the final tumultuous years of my abusive marriage, I became involved in a relationship with someone on my campaign," she wrote. "I know that even a consensual relationship with a subordinate is inappropriate, but I still allowed it to happen against my better judgement. For that I apologize."

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/467229-rep-katie-hill-admits-to-relationship-with-campaign-staffer-amid-ethics-probe%3famp

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Reply Rep. Katie Hill admits to relationship with campaign staffer amid ethics probe (Original post)
Jose Garcia Oct 2019 OP
evertonfc Oct 2019 #1
brush Oct 2019 #11
djg21 Oct 2019 #47
brush Oct 2019 #66
djg21 Oct 2019 #69
OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2019 #50
ToxMarz Oct 2019 #56
Merlot Oct 2019 #2
USALiberal Oct 2019 #7
Merlot Oct 2019 #10
gopiscrap Oct 2019 #31
Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #15
obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #16
docgee Oct 2019 #22
aggiesal Oct 2019 #26
Pachamama Oct 2019 #28
Codeine Oct 2019 #37
oldsoftie Oct 2019 #64
ffr Oct 2019 #38
titaniumsalute Oct 2019 #3
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not fooled Oct 2019 #4
dalton99a Oct 2019 #34
CaptainTruth Oct 2019 #5
vlyons Oct 2019 #6
knightmaar Oct 2019 #9
chowder66 Oct 2019 #18
knightmaar Oct 2019 #21
chowder66 Oct 2019 #32
knightmaar Oct 2019 #52
cadoman Oct 2019 #58
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BlueIdaho Oct 2019 #8
Bradical79 Oct 2019 #19
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mitch96 Oct 2019 #12
ritapria Oct 2019 #13
Polybius Oct 2019 #51
kimbutgar Oct 2019 #14
SunSeeker Oct 2019 #42
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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:20 AM

1. good grief

 

I could care less but why do some politicians have the inability to not do stupid shit while serving. Is it compulsive issues? Do they think they can get away with it in 2019? Again, I don't care but very bad decision making this damn early in carree

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Response to evertonfc (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:44 AM

11. It's not anyone elses business if it's consensual and no campaign funds were used.

People have relationships. That's not a news flash.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:45 PM

47. Nonsense

 

She had a relationship with a subordinate at a workplace. How can you say its clearly consensual given the disparity in power held by the two. Utterly inappropriate and indicative of a complete failure in judgement.

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Response to djg21 (Reply #47)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:48 PM

66. Failure in my jdgement? Do you know the details whether it was consenual or not?

People sometimes fall in love.

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Response to brush (Reply #66)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:38 PM

69. Don't do it in the workplace with a subordinate.

 

Thats just a disaster waiting to happen, and virtually guarantees a Title VII lawsuit when things go south with the relationship. Its very bad judgment, and disqualifying in my opinion.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:52 PM

50. That ain't how our sexual harassment training went.

If the parties are supervisor/subordinate, and consented, it is still inappropriate.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 01:12 PM

56. I guess that's why she denied it so firmly

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:20 AM

2. Unless they used campaign funds to facilitate the affair, I just don't care.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:35 AM

7. If it was a GOPer we would care! Nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:41 AM

10. Nope, still wouldn't care.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:47 AM

31. I would care

anything to stick it to the fucking shit stain republicans

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:56 AM

15. I wouldn't be so sure about that.

There are some of us who truly don't care about this sort of stuff unless there is very clear and explicit evidence that harm or illegal activities were done as a result.

While there may some people who say "don't care about this" who would care if this was republican or even a male of any political party, but I wouldn't assume everyone falls into that category.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:02 AM

16. Nope, still wouldn't, not if consensual

People fall in love.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:24 AM

22. Nope, wouldn't care

Not if it's consensual. However you think the GOP would care considering their (ahem) moral (ahem bullshit) stance on everything. But they wouldn't either. Well only if the staffer was another woman, then maybe their homophobia might get to them.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:36 AM

26. Nope wouldn't care. Just like we didn't care about Newt Gingrich's affair ...

when his wife was in the hospital and he was getting Clinton impeached.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:43 AM

28. Is this a serious statement?



Really?

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

37. Not me.

 

People can fuck anyone they please, as long as its all consenting adults.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:46 PM

64. Ahh I see some fairness creeping out!

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Response to Merlot (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

38. Yep, I'm immune and shameless for the next 20 years to anything dems do.

Nobody is going to convince me otherwise. We've earned it with the pain and suffering inflicted from this cabal.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:24 AM

3. I don't give two shits less about any politician schtupping their staff

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Response to titaniumsalute (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:35 AM

25. Perfect summation! /nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:29 AM

4. Well, duncan hunter JR. conducted multiple affairs

including liasons with lobbyist(s), and those came to light only because he got indicted for misusing campaign funds.

Not defending Hill in this and, no, I don't care either but just pointing out that this kind of thing probably goes on with some frequency but rarely gets publicized.

Also, note that Hill's relationship was exposed in RedState, after she flipped a previously red district. RW hit job.

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Response to not fooled (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:49 AM

34. +1

The conservative website RedState first published a nude photo of Hill, who identifies as bisexual, with an individual the publication described as a female campaign staffer. Hill has since said the U.S. Capitol Police are investigating how the photo was obtained by RedState.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:31 AM

5. In other words, it sounds like she's human.


And being human, she is imperfect, & sometimes does things against her better judgement.

To me, as long as no one was assaulted or harmed, it's a private matter.

Let me know when she puts kids in cages & shreds the Constitution.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:31 AM

6. They are both adults, and it was consensual

So why is this anyone's business but their's?

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Response to vlyons (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:37 AM

9. Because it's a subordinate

The power differential is a bit different when the woman is the boss (I'm assuming the aide was male), but there's still a power differential.
There's a possibility of favouritism.
There's also the possibility that consent might not be freely given if your job is on the line.

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Response to knightmaar (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:07 AM

18. The aid was a female. nt

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:23 AM

21. Yeah, "Graham Kelly" is male.

But it looks like RedState was publishing photos of her with another woman.
I wasn't sure which affair was finally being admitted to.
Either way, it's not quite the same as "male boss - female aide", but it still allows pressure to be exerted.

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Response to knightmaar (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:47 AM

32. She has denied having any relationship with Graham Kelly

but admitted to the relationship with the aid.

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:56 PM

52. Oh, okay. Thanks.

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Response to knightmaar (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 01:51 PM

58. well said, but what should/will the consequences be?

It looks like the most that would happen is a "letter of reproval" and/or "a recommendation to the House of Representatives that a sanction be imposed".

https://ethics.house.gov/publication/code-official-conduct

https://ethics.house.gov/sites/ethics.house.gov/files/ADOPTED%20-%20Committee%20Rules%20for%20116th%20Congress.pdf

Assuming it was all consensual, a saction and/or reproval letter sounds about right. Give the facts to the voters and let them decide.

Rep. Hill is obviously being singled out here though, because she hasn't built up any press leverage and the story is titillating. We know there are plenty more rotten fish, who are doing much worse and getting away with it. Hastert wasn't an anomaly.

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Response to cadoman (Reply #58)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:54 PM

68. welcome to DU

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:36 AM

8. It's not an affair

So who cares? If, after an abusive relationship, she has found a relationship filled with mutual love and respect - Im happy for her.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:07 AM

19. Dating subordinates is inappropriate

 

And not very smart. It can be an abuse of a unequal power dynamic, and is the source of many sexual workplace. I personally give her benefit of the doubt given the circumstances around her marriage and lack of complaint from the guy. Some of that may be my partisanship, and maybe some internalized sexism? I'm not sure. If it were a GOP male in a relationship with his staffer, I can honestly say my gut reaction probably would be different.

Still, the first thing that should happen when starting the relationship is the aid should get a different job. If it's not worth that sort of change, then it shouldn't happen.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:16 PM

41. No doubt, none of us are bias free.

The fact that she is a democrat who was suffering in a bad relationship, Im sure, colors my thinking as well. Obviously she understands the inappropriate nature of that relationship and is taking steps to make things right. Im not sure what else she can do. Its tough being human.

Contrast that to someone like serial offender Duncan Hunter - I still say there is a qualitative and quantitative difference.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #41)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:59 PM

54. Yeah, by comparison, Republicans are far worse

 

A significant number of them should be out of Congress, or in prison, based on their rule breaking and law breaking. Their corruption has been getting more out of control year after year.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:13 PM

67. We say that on the one hand

but then wish congrats to Joe & Mika and Bill & Melinda Gates -- both couples which started dating with that kind of relationship.

I don't know how I feel about this, but meh is the most outrage I can generate.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:45 AM

12. As Mulvaney said........ GET OVER IT... nothing here......move along

We have bigger fish to fry......
m

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:47 AM

13. I don't get it

 

The rule is simple and fair .....Don't mess around with the staff... What does Hill , do ? . She throws it all away by messing around with the staff . I don't give two shits about her sex life but couldn't she muster up the self-control to follow this rule.....

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Response to ritapria (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:55 PM

51. Sometimes it's hard to resist

I was once a manager at a restaurant when I was 26. I didn't date much, so for me it wasn't too easy. A beautiful server who I had a lot in common with there was always cool with me, and eventually we went hung out one night that we were both off, and things happened and we started dating. We kept it a secret as best as we could.

I don't regret it one bit, it worked out beautifully.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:50 AM

14. She's toast

Between fox and her opponent they will be stomping all over her up until the election. She could fight back but the repuke want her blood.

Even though Duncan Hunter, Mark Stanford and several other repukes cheated on their wives it will be mysteriously forgotten because Katie Hill is a Democrat.,

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:16 PM

42. Trump cheated on all three of his wives. Now the GOP cares about adultery?

Last edited Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:13 AM - Edit history (1)

I feel for her. She was in an abusive marriage, the person wanted to be involved with her and gave her comfort at a tumultuous time.


On edit: There appears to be no ethics violation since the relationship was nor with a member of her Congressional staff, but rather a member of her campaign:

The California Democrat admitted to having a relationship with someone on her campaign, but denied allegations of an affair with a member of her staff.
...
The House Ethic Committee noted in its release Wednesday that an investigation into the claims does not indicate that Hill violated House rules.

I am beyond grateful for the work the Ethics Committee does to ensure transparency in Congress. I welcome this investigation and will be cooperating fully to clear this matter up, Hill said in a statement later Wednesday.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-katie-hill-being-investigated-house-over-alleged-relationship-staffer-n1071111?cid=referral_taboolafeed

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #42)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:30 PM

61. And that's something she should hammer republicans on too.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:06 AM

17. I really don't care but she did break the rule

There is a rule against this in congress and she broke it which is stupid on her part.

This is unfortunate because she is smart and she managed to flip a red district that will now flip back. The GOP won't care that Hunter and tons of others have done worse they will just go on and on about this. Also it was a female staffer so this will get even more traction.

She was smart in admitting it once it came out and she seems to be playing correctly about the abusive ex husband, maybe this won't end badly but I doubt it. Let's face it if you are a dem, a minority or LGBTQ and you are in congress then you have to be perfect or they will get you. It's very sad to have to say that but it's the truth.

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Response to jgmiller (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:18 AM

20. The district doesn't have to flip red.

Another Democrat could run.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:33 AM

23. The real question should be.... " Did She?", Or "Didn't She, Give the Staffer a... "Blow Job"???

....Did She, or Didn't She ....Lie about the "Blow Job?"...(a historical reference to those who do not...
understand this one)... Do your job, and look it up...I ain't going into it, cause it is about a "Blow Job"

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:11 PM

39. Did you get a bulk deal on ellipses

 

and now youve got to use them up before they spoil?

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Response to Codeine (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:16 PM

40. Yes, I got an unlimited supply of ellipses. Bulk Deal of course...................

But, I might add, you are not the first one to point that out. Several years ago, there was another comment about my using too many dots........??? At first I did not know what an ellipses was?....then I discovered that it was a lots of dots.......................................................ok? :

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #40)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:23 PM

43. Ellipses are not a replacement for correct punctuation.

Using ellipses the way you appear to do (as a replacement for actual punctuation) is really distracting and muddles whatever point you are trying to make. Commas, periods, colons and semicolons would serve you much better.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #43)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:32 PM

44. Yes. Commas, periods. colons: semicolons; I will try, but I am aged.

Hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 01:46 PM

57. I use that excuse a lot as well.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:42 PM

63. LOL. I hear ya.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #43)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:48 PM

48. IMO ellipses are perfectly acceptable, they emulate the natural pauses in an actual conversation

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:33 AM

24. There are many aspects to this story

But the most disappointing one may be that she claimed that she wasn't having a relationship and that she asked for understanding as she was separated from an abusive partner who was spreading lies about her. She actually asked for sympathy and understanding for her situation.

It is disgusting to try and hide behind other people's suffering, especially when it may be used to brush aside genuine claims. The fact that she was having an affair was being used as a weapon against her by a nasty bunch of hipocritical sexist republicans.

Now they can add to their venom with the 'fact' that women just lie about such things. I don't care about her private life. I care that she has betrayed people who are genuinely trying to deal with an abusive ex-partner

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Response to amcgrath (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:38 AM

27. You're Confused


There are two relationships. You've misrepresented what she said.

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Response to DarthDem (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:00 PM

59. ?

Freshman Democrat Katie Hill denies improper relationship with staffer

Rebecca Klar10/22/19 04:30 PM EDT
Freshman Rep. Katie Hill (D-Calif.) is denying allegations that she had an improper relationship with a member of her staff, and said the accusations are stemming from her divorce from "an abusive husband."

The fact is I am going through a divorce from an abusive husband who seems determined to try to humiliate me. I am disgusted that my opponents would seek to exploit such a private matter for political gain, she said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday.

This coordinated effort to try to destroy me and people close to me is despicable and will not succeed," she added. "I, like many women who have faced attacks like this before, am stronger than those who want me to be afraid.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:44 AM

29. If they wanted to stay together...

... the staffer should have found another job.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:46 AM

30. Unless and until she's convicted of a crime, I don't care.

What she does or doesn't do in her personal life is her own business


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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:49 AM

33. I keep reading that we shouldn't care if the relationship was consenual, ...

but we should care.

She's a member of congress and all members are privy to classified information,
to be able to do their job and vote on issues with all the facts.
If they do anything that's against the rules or as egregious as having a sexual relationship
with a staffer, that opens them up to being a target and then being compromised.
They could even be blackmailed by the partner if the relationship ends badly.

This was really poor judgement and I believe she'll end up paying dearly for it.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:51 AM

35. Uh,oh. This reminds me of Woody Allen's infamous line:

"The heart has its reasons."

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:05 PM

36. The NY Post says that she had a "throuple" with her "abusive" ex...

and the female staffer. Photos are supposedly around.

I find this pruriently sufficient for really good gossip, but that's about all.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:44 PM

45. "Throuple"

 

First time Ive encountered that term. Nice.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 PM

49. Me too, but looked it up and it's getting out there.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:45 PM

46. Is it illegal to have a relationship with a staffer?

If they're both adults, who cares?

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Response to Polybius (Reply #46)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 01:06 PM

55. That's how I feel about it. It's a private matter and they were consenting adults.

As long as the two of them didn't abuse public funds to arrange accommodation for their trysts, I couldn't care less. Good god. The country is trying to deal with its single greatest threat to the nation's democracy it's hasn't faced since the Civil War. How can anyone muster up enough inflated moral outrage about this? Seriously. Generally, I would say that a boss shouldn't get involved with a subordinate, especially when the balance of power between them is unequal, but I also think it's not a good idea generally for a couple who work together regardless of one being in a higher position or not, since any disagreements between them probably are going to affect their performance on the job. But basically, I don't care if a company or the taxpayers aren't footing any of their expenditures.

That said, she shouldn't have lied about it. If one's involved in an activity that will cause them shame enough to have to come clean publicly, they probably shouldn't be serving in the public domain where some two bit colleague can out their behavior at some point in future.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #46)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:16 AM

72. It wasn't a staffer, so unlikely any ethics violation was committed.

The California Democrat admitted to having a relationship with someone on her campaign, but denied allegations of an affair with a member of her staff.
...
The House Ethic Committee noted in its release Wednesday that an investigation into the claims does not indicate that Hill violated House rules.

I am beyond grateful for the work the Ethics Committee does to ensure transparency in Congress. I welcome this investigation and will be cooperating fully to clear this matter up, Hill said in a statement later Wednesday.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-katie-hill-being-investigated-house-over-alleged-relationship-staffer-n1071111?cid=referral_taboolafeed

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:59 PM

53. All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!

seriously. I don't care.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:04 PM

60. Compare this to the RETHUGS life style and it's

A NOTHING-BURGER!!!

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:42 PM

62. If she resigns in this purple district and we don't have a strong candidate...

 

it's going back to an idiot. She flipped this last year.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:17 PM

65. Looks like she's got an Iron Cross tattoo as well

The last round of photos I saw show her naked holding a giant bong with Iron Cross tattoo on her leg.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:48 PM

70. Yawn

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:48 PM

71. Don't care



Their business.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:25 AM

73. It wasn't a staffer, so unlikely any ethics violation was committed.

The California Democrat admitted to having a relationship with someone on her campaign, but denied allegations of an affair with a member of her staff.
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The House Ethic Committee noted in its release Wednesday that an investigation into the claims does not indicate that Hill violated House rules.

I am beyond grateful for the work the Ethics Committee does to ensure transparency in Congress. I welcome this investigation and will be cooperating fully to clear this matter up, Hill said in a statement later Wednesday.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-katie-hill-being-investigated-house-over-alleged-relationship-staffer-n1071111?cid=referral_taboolafeed


The Hill has a very right wing, misleading take on this story. You really should edit your OP, or at least cite the above excerpt from the NBC story, otherwise, you're kinda repeating false right wing talking points from Red State, which is cited in that Hill piece.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:10 PM

74. The only crime here is the stealing and leaking of the photos...

...she broke ZERO laws.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #74)

Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:49 AM

75. No one has accused her of breaking any laws.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #75)

Mon Oct 28, 2019, 12:13 PM

76. Which makes it even more confusing as to why she is resigning...

...Trump is taking all the oxygen right now. Very, very few are even paying attention to her. I think she should have stuck it out and let this pass over.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #76)

Mon Oct 28, 2019, 12:42 PM

77. She was accused of breaking House ethics rules

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