Russia: Trump's Baghdadi Victory Lap Is Nothing But 'Propaganda'

[Mrs. Overall]

Source: The Daily Beast

The Russian Defense Ministry also disputed claims that Russia provided access to U.S. air units entering airspace it controls.

At the White House Sunday morning, President Trump profusely thanked Russia for its alleged involvement in the killing of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Trump said: "[The Russians] were very cooperative, they really were good... Russia treated us great. They opened up, we had to fly over certain Russia areas, Russia-held areas. Russia was great."

Russia didn’t seem to see it the same way. The Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov, refuted President Trump’s statement, stating in part: “The Russian Defense Ministry has no reliable information about U.S. servicemen conducting an operation for ‘yet another’ elimination of the former Daesh leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in the Turkish-controlled part of the Idlib de-escalation zone.”

The Russian Defense Ministry also disputed President Trump’s claim that Russia provided access to U.S. air units entering the airspace over the Idlib de-escalation zone during that mission in Syria. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to provide a comment about President Trump’s announcement, directing everyone to General Konashenkov’s statement.

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[Blue Owl]

1. Desperate Donny's Dumb Diversion

n/t

[The Liberal Lion]

2. Well now, this is getting interesting

[Jarqui]

3. Get out the Pee Pee tapes!!

Maybe then the United States will have a President who puts the United States ahead of Russia.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Oh shit forgot about those! YES

[crickets]

4. Funny how the bootlicking has backfired on him this time around.

The ‘yet another’ comment is quite the zinger.

[politicaljunkie41910]

15. Trump praised Putin three times in his speech this morning, and I guess it got to be too much even

for Putin. So Putin is pulling back so no one will know that he and Trump are Besties, like the rest of us are so dumb we can't read the handwriting on the wall. Actually, Trump is not Putin's Bestie, he's Putin's fool and Putin's playing him for the fool that he is. After all, Putin is the one who is the ex KGB Agent who has spent his entire adult life cultivating unwitting fools like Trump. Trump is the tool who so desperately needs Putin's approval and affection, since he's definitely not his equal.

[Lock him up.]

25. Drumph still wants that Vlad's condo tower in Moscow. n/t

[George II]

5. "....'yet another' elimination..." - now THAT is funny!!!

[LisaL]

8. The guy must have more lives than a cat, if you can kill him multiple times.

[JDC]

6. I'd guess they knew perfectly well about it

but they want zero backlash. they likely did not expect Il Douche to thank them for their intel and guidance.

[JohnnyRingo]

19. I suspect you're close to the mark.

They probably know as I do that it won't be long before Trump parades around with al Baghdadi's head on a stake, provoking a revenge attack. Putin has nothing to gain aligning himself with an idiot.

[Aussie105]

7. Trump: Russia loves me, what is wrong with you lot?

Trump says Russia helped him be a hero.

Russia: Not so fast, Mister!

Trump about to Tweet . . . . Russia is Fake News! (No, he would not dare.)

[Perseus]

9. Or are the Russians playing with information to dismiss the news that Russia knew about it while

Congress did not?

[Igel]

34. Perhaps.

The thing about disinformation that's really good is you don't know where the truth begins and stops, and where the lies begin and stop. Notice that they're different things: Everything can be true but some bits can be omitted, and that can be useful disinformation.

Russia wouldn't like it to be known, domestically and internationally, in some quarters at least, that they cooperated with either the Kurds or the Americans. So the denial meets their goals.

At the same time, this sows dissent in the US. Another of their goals.

Just having people quote Russian/Putin sources as fact when it's reported differently elsewhere in the US shows that some DUers believe Putin more than Trump. (This is a common observation. In many instances, Russia's believed more than American sources, but only when it helps fight something in domestic politics. True, not true, unverifiable, doesn't matter--if it supports the struggle then it must be true. It's been the case since the 1920s. "We do not have a famine or concentration camps," and some "activists" in the US would parrot the Party line. "Sputnik", as in the current news service, is ambiguous: It's the name of the Russian satellite; but it's also the word for "fellow-traveller" from the 1920s and '30s, and is targeted at provided current sputniki or fellow travelers useful talking points.)

I figure that the Russians have it sorted that being seen as beloved of Trump makes them less likely to achieve some of their tactical goals. The anti-Russian furor in some sectors is not unlike the anti-Russian red scare. It pays to remember that the red scare wasn't completely devoid of facts--there were spies and people that strongly sympathize--but it went full-blown paranoid at some point.

[oldsoftie]

10. But saying they didnt give permission makes it look like we did it without them even knowing.

Which would make THEM look bad

[zentrum]

11. This seems to be saying...

......Russia is not even sure it happened.

[Ferrets are Cool]

12. I love that even his "pals" are making him look fucking stupid.

Not that it is that difficult.

[Iliyah]

13. Putin knew . . . . . . . . .

But Patriotic congresscritter Democrats were not advised.

[BigmanPigman]

14. I am confused.

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Is Putin his best pal or not? This is worse than All My Children, trying to keep up with who is and isn't in love this week as opposed to last week. Why all the confusion if they are such close pals?

[Haggis for Breakfast]

18. Could it be that Putin is cutting the life-support to trumpie slowly,

leaving him to twist slowly in the wind ?

[Lock him up.]

26. The Russians have troops on the ground there. They don't want...

... retaliation from the escaped ISIS terrorists, or anything else to do with ISIS (I guess).

[Chemisse]

31. It was probably supposed to be a secret that Russia helped.

It's not good PR for Russia as they rush headlong into the Middle East to be seen taking sides with the US.

[RobinA]

33. Putin May Be

Trump's best pal, but I would seriously doubt that Trump is Putin's. Putin, as far as I understand it, is not an idiot. He's an operative, an operator, and a spy. I'm sure he is quite happy to make use of anyone who is usable and can be of advantage to him, but he isn't going to tie himself to a loose cannon. Trump doesn't play by the rules, even bad guy rules. He's getting very dangerous to everyone.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

16. Pooty doesn't love you anymore Trumpy

[Progressive2020]

17. Trump Is Delusional

Trump is a delusional narcissist and criminally incompetent.

[herding cats]

21. Chaos is the goal.

The goal is reaching fruition.

Putin is pleased, albeit I'm sure slightly surprised, at how easy this has been for him.

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. LOL, "yet another..."

[tclambert]

23. Trump bragging that he "got" somebody probably means he missed.

Does al-Baghdadi have a Twitter account? I'd like to know if he tweeted something about "yet another" time the Americans killed him.

[riversedge]

24. Whow. just Whow

[sop]

27. It hasn't even been 24 hours since Trump made his insane al-Baghdadi announcement

and the whole thing is already falling apart.

[BlueMTexpat]

28. Will Trump now throw

Russia under the bus?

[Karma13612]

29. I actually wondered if this "we got the bad guy" was even true.

What is the meaning of “yet another”? Was this guy already dead, and Trump just wanted a quick “win” to distract from the impeachment inquiry?

Something just doesn’t add up.

[jcgoldie]

30. yet another...

Its in reference to the fact that he's been reportedly killed by Americans. Russians, and even the Iranians multiple times over the past 3-4 years.

[Karma13612]

35. Yup! n/t

[BlueWI]

32. Strange and disturbing.

When will enough be enough?