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BumRushDaShow

(128,249 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:08 PM Nov 2019

Trump wanted Barr to hold news conference saying the president broke no laws in call with Ukrainian

Source: Washington Post

President Trump wanted Attorney General William P. Barr to hold a news conference declaring the commander in chief had broken no laws during a phone call in which he pressed his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate a political rival, though Barr ultimately declined to do so, people familiar with the matter said. The request from Trump traveled from the president, to other White House officials, and eventually to the Justice Department. The president has mentioned Barr’s declination to associates in recent weeks, saying he wished Barr would have held the news conference, Trump advisers say.

In recent weeks, the Justice Department has sought some distance from the White House, particularly on matters relating to the burgeoning controversy over Trump’s dealings on Ukraine and the impeachment inquiry they sparked.People close to the administration say Barr and Trump remain on good terms. A senior administration official said Trump praised the attorney general publicly and privately Wednesday, and White House spokesman Hogan Gidely said, “The President has nothing but respect for AG Barr and greatly appreciates the work he’s done on behalf of the country — and no amount of shady sources with clear intent to divide, smear, and slander will change that.”

But those close to the administration also concede the department has made several recent maneuvers putting it at odds with the White House during a particularly precarious time for the president. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the politically fraught situation.

The request for the news conference came sometime around Sept. 25, when the administration released a rough transcript of the president’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The document showed how Trump urged Zelensky to investigate former vice president Joe Biden — while dangling a possible White House visit for the foreign leader.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-wanted-barr-to-hold-news-conference-saying-the-president-broke-no-laws-in-call-with-ukrainian-leader/2019/11/06/16d541ec-ff55-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html



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Trump wanted Barr to hold news conference saying the president broke no laws in call with Ukrainian (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 OP
K and R for exposure. Thank You for posting. Stuart G Nov 2019 #1
The article author is on Chris Hayes' show on MSNBC right now BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #3
Thank You, I haven't got cable, I will watch it when it is posted or see it on You Tube. Stuart G Nov 2019 #5
Since it was a breaking, they'll definitely have that clip up later BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #11
This is an "old idea" but..just because Nixon said he wasn't a "crook" doesn't mean that.... Stuart G Nov 2019 #13
It wouldn't work even if he did. After the Mueller memo BS, dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
What is true about Barr, is also true about the liar in chief: Donald Trump(also zero credibility ) Stuart G Nov 2019 #14
Facts. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #15
What's also true about: complicit with Epstein Julian Englis Nov 2019 #16
There was a body language analysis Twitter thread dewsgirl Nov 2019 #23
"The public and the media will not buy" - depends on the definition of public and media erronis Nov 2019 #21
Even though Barr was implicated? djacq Nov 2019 #4
Yes, there is more..more bottom! ..Why? simple: Trump is a crook. Stuart G Nov 2019 #8
This is the definition of desperation RainCaster Nov 2019 #6
So the guilty man asks his lawyer to say that he is not guilty? Botany Nov 2019 #7
Maybe someone gave Billy a history lesson No-Bozos Nov 2019 #27
So? And that's going to change the calculus how? paleotn Nov 2019 #9
irrelevant when talking impeachment - laws broken are not the standard for impeachment EveHammond13 Nov 2019 #10
following the Mueller report playbook EveHammond13 Nov 2019 #12
Idiot. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #17
Can't we assume by now that Trump has asked everyone and every government for personal favors? wiggs Nov 2019 #18
Apparently, Barr doesn't want to end up like John Mitchell, tclambert Nov 2019 #19
Who knew there was actually a line Barr wouldn't cross? dlk Nov 2019 #20
dis-Barr Bill sees the trouble he's in and he's trying to thread the needle Hassler Nov 2019 #22
It amazes me that a person that dumb Harker Nov 2019 #24
and the Post continues choie Nov 2019 #25
I'm reminded of the reporter who conveniently asked DOTUS if he felt vindicated. tanyev Nov 2019 #26
Trump broke no law, and Barr broke no bones bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #28
Propagandizing by Barr The Wizard Nov 2019 #29
"Let's stop using the Latin, "quid pro quo" and start calling it what it really is: BRIBERY AND EXTO bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #30
Treason? Brainfodder Nov 2019 #32
This is irrelevant - DOJ spokeswoman already said that Trump was cleared NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #31
Oh, goody! Another fault line in the Trump administration. Trump will keep criticizing Barr for this Nitram Nov 2019 #33
Here's the WP story that has the president so riled: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #34
Re: today's tweets from @realDonaldTrump mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #35

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
5. Thank You, I haven't got cable, I will watch it when it is posted or see it on You Tube.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:22 PM
Nov 2019
..Thank You again.. Trump is not just toast, he is burnt toast. Trump doesn't have a clue, but I do. I watched the entire Nixon thing, from the break in to Nixon's resignation. That is how this will end in my opinion

BumRushDaShow

(128,249 posts)
11. Since it was a breaking, they'll definitely have that clip up later
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:32 PM
Nov 2019

We had the Watergate hearings on in my household but for some reason, I don't have the same optimism about a resignation before the election as you. As crude and conniving as Nixon was, he was still a government officiando with decades of government exposure and experience. In contrast, the current WH occupant had had zero government experience at any level or any function, and shows complete disdain for government and its principles.

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
13. This is an "old idea" but..just because Nixon said he wasn't a "crook" doesn't mean that....
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:38 PM
Nov 2019

....Nixon wasn't a crook. Nixon was a crook

....Nixon will always be thought of as a crook, and so will Trump. (after impeachment, next week and possible
resignation..???) Trump is a crook too.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
2. It wouldn't work even if he did. After the Mueller memo BS,
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:17 PM
Nov 2019

Barr has zero credibility. The public and the media will not buy whatever crap he is selling. Just like whatever scheme he is cooking up right now to discredit the Russia investigation.

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
14. What is true about Barr, is also true about the liar in chief: Donald Trump(also zero credibility )
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:42 PM
Nov 2019

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
23. There was a body language analysis Twitter thread
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:58 PM
Nov 2019

of college speech he gave long story short, I seriously believe he may have personally done it himself.
This guy is also a sociopath, one with a brain. It is chilling.

erronis

(15,155 posts)
21. "The public and the media will not buy" - depends on the definition of public and media
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:26 PM
Nov 2019

Many of the public will buy into whatever they're force-fed by their clans/friend/media.

The media is rather selective in what they present. Very few US outlets are without bias and filtering. Even the old Gray Lady, the WaPo, the WSJ, etc. One of the reasons I really trust more internationally-based outlets (Reuters, Guardian, Spiegel) but want confirmation from various sources.

Botany

(70,422 posts)
7. So the guilty man asks his lawyer to say that he is not guilty?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:24 PM
Nov 2019

BTW This might have been "a bridge too far" for Barr and he doesn't want to go down on the
Trump-tanic.

No-Bozos

(51 posts)
27. Maybe someone gave Billy a history lesson
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:22 AM
Nov 2019

Billy would be wise to remember that one of his predecessors, John Mitchell, spent 19 months in jail for his role in Watergate.

As to everyone else ignoring House subpoenas, they may want to review their financial situation if they should be charged with Contempt of Congress. Lawyers are not cheap. Many also may have potential Obstruction of Justice charges awaiting them. Talk about a toxic work environment.

A motto to live by if you work for Frump, "He demands absolute loyalty, but he very, very, rarely returns it." Just say'in -

wiggs

(7,806 posts)
18. Can't we assume by now that Trump has asked everyone and every government for personal favors?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:29 PM
Nov 2019

We KNOW he extorted Ukraine. We know he asked/demanded personal service from Comey, Sessions, now Barr. He's in bed with Russia of course.

Turkey? Israel? Saudis? Almost certainly. Graham, McConnell probably.

This is what's really serious about Ukraine. I'm glad and all that dems are doing a good job illuminating and pursuing the Ukraine misconduct. But the scandal means more than just Ukraine and one case of quid pro quo corruption. It means

...every foreign interaction is suspect

...every domestic action is suspect

...because of nefarious, corrupt behavior he is compromised by everyone who knows about it. Blackmail.

...all his proposals are tainted by his tendency for self-dealing.

...he lies about everything. Prove a lie (Ukraine) and it can be taken that he will lie about anything else

How can someone remain in office under these conditions? I wish more dem leaders and pundits would discuss what Ukraine really means in a big picture sense. Forest, instead of trees.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
19. Apparently, Barr doesn't want to end up like John Mitchell,
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:36 PM
Nov 2019

Nixon's Attorney General during Watergate. (He spent 19 months in prison.)

dlk

(11,496 posts)
20. Who knew there was actually a line Barr wouldn't cross?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:11 PM
Nov 2019

He has sold out our country in so many other ways.

Hassler

(3,363 posts)
22. dis-Barr Bill sees the trouble he's in and he's trying to thread the needle
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 PM
Nov 2019

Between the Criminal-in-Chief and staying out of jail.

choie

(4,107 posts)
25. and the Post continues
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:52 AM
Nov 2019

the trope that they released a "rough transcript" It wasn't a transcript, rough or otherwise. It was a summary. Jesus Christ can't the media get this right?

tanyev

(42,494 posts)
26. I'm reminded of the reporter who conveniently asked DOTUS if he felt vindicated.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:18 AM
Nov 2019

The story was everywhere, but we never found out the name of the 'reporter' who asked that. I'm convinced someone was instructed to ask that question.

Trump: I Feel ‘Somewhat’ Vindicated By Nunes’ Surveillance Claim

By Matt Shuham|
March 22, 2017 3:47 p.m.

President Donald Trump said that he felt “somewhat” vindicated in his unsubstantiated wiretapping claims after hearing from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA), who claimed Wednesday that Trump and members of his transition team had been “incidentally” surveilled.

“Do you feel vindicated by Chairman Nunes?” a reporter asked the President.

“I somewhat do. I must tell you, I somewhat do. I very much appreciated the fact that they found what they found, but I somewhat do,” Trump responded.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-somewhat-vindicated-wiretapping

bucolic_frolic

(42,980 posts)
28. Trump broke no law, and Barr broke no bones
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:45 AM
Nov 2019

Epstein was just another excerpted transcript. Nothing to see here, don't rubber-neck too much, and move along to the next redacted reality.

Lock Barr Up!

The Wizard

(12,527 posts)
29. Propagandizing by Barr
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:34 AM
Nov 2019

or the President of Ukraine is still propaganda. Manipulating the media is just so Russian. He is indeed "The Siberian Candidate."

bucolic_frolic

(42,980 posts)
30. "Let's stop using the Latin, "quid pro quo" and start calling it what it really is: BRIBERY AND EXTO
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 11:02 AM
Nov 2019



“Let’s stop using the Latin, “quid pro quo” and start calling it what it really is: BRIBERY AND EXTORTION.”

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
32. Treason?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

Firing squad?

I'll bring the tasty orange chips and guac?

Tickets should be free!

Behind the Lincoln Memorial?

I'm 3000 miles away, I'll just watch the highlights.



Nitram

(22,749 posts)
33. Oh, goody! Another fault line in the Trump administration. Trump will keep criticizing Barr for this
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:30 PM
Nov 2019

until Barr has had enough and jumps ship.

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