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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 03:45 PM Nov 2019

London to Sydney flight breaks world record

Source: CNN

Until someone invents a device to teleport humans from one side of the Earth to the other, this is the next best thing.

An experimental research flight operated by Australian airline Qantas touched down in Sydney on Friday, after flying nonstop from London -- a journey that pushes the frontier of modern aircraft capabilities -- smashing two aviation records and witnessing a rare double sunrise along the way.

Flight QF7879 became the world's longest passenger flight by a commercial airline both for distance, at 17,800 kilometers (about 11,060 miles), and for duration in the air, at 19 hours and 19 minutes.

The achievement could help usher in a new generation of so-called ultra long haul flights that will directly connect far-flung Sydney with destinations across Europe and the United States.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/qantas-test-flight-london-sydney-nonstop/index.html

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London to Sydney flight breaks world record (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
The longest possible flight VMA131Marine Nov 2019 #1
Although the distance doesn't change Sgent Nov 2019 #25
That doesn't leave much time for "circling" the destination airport in the event of bad weather... NurseJackie Nov 2019 #2
They only flew with 27% of the seats occupied PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #4
Sure I'll pay 4x as much and wear a rectal thermometer for 19 hours. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #7
Passengers on this flight paid nothing n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #9
On a totally unrelated note sdfernando Nov 2019 #14
ewwwww! lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #17
I was previously aware of everything except for the price-point. That's amazing! NurseJackie Nov 2019 #8
16.5 in premium economy was mind numbing Phoenix61 Nov 2019 #3
Flew to New Zealand from LA this summer ArizonaLib Nov 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author eppur_se_muova Nov 2019 #5
Meh - I once took a flight on the first day in summer that landed on the first day of winter jpak Nov 2019 #6
Wow! Long fight, huh? SergeStorms Nov 2019 #16
I'm not so sure canetoad Nov 2019 #10
Possibly a new record for sore bums, too. DavidDvorkin Nov 2019 #11
Long haul flights are torture IronLionZion Nov 2019 #12
yep - US to China - sucks Locrian Nov 2019 #13
For my trip to the UK I took a cruise ship csziggy Nov 2019 #20
Sorry. SergeStorms Nov 2019 #15
Count me out, I love the feeling when you take off and land. Talitha Nov 2019 #19
Humanity is approaching civilizational collapse due to burning fossil fuels for things like aircraft NickB79 Nov 2019 #21
So your answer is stay at home? brooklynite Nov 2019 #27
Yes it is NickB79 Nov 2019 #29
I'd rather take the train. tclambert Nov 2019 #22
I remember when Boeing first announced the 787 Dreamliner years ago. jcmaine72 Nov 2019 #23
Use to be I always wanted a window seat. Now it's all about the restroom proximity. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #24
787-9 Maxheader Nov 2019 #26
Nothing like arriving with a DVT CabalPowered Nov 2019 #28
The amount of radiation you would receive on a 19-hour flight would be... LudwigPastorius Nov 2019 #30
The key is to turn around every 20 minutes so you toast evenly... brooklynite Nov 2019 #31
Those little airplane sleep masks would be mandatory. LudwigPastorius Nov 2019 #32
You can get radiation from flying in an airplane? Polybius Nov 2019 #33
It's usually a small dose, but not statistically insignificant when estimating... LudwigPastorius Nov 2019 #34

VMA131Marine

(4,137 posts)
1. The longest possible flight
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 03:52 PM
Nov 2019

Between two points on Earth using a Great Circle route is 12,450 miles. But that’s theoretical because there has to be an airport at each end. This may be the longest flight that is possible in practice.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
25. Although the distance doesn't change
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:44 AM
Nov 2019

wind direction / speed / location can have a massive effect as well. Going eastward is usually much easier / faster than going westward.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. That doesn't leave much time for "circling" the destination airport in the event of bad weather...
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 03:57 PM
Nov 2019

That doesn't leave much time for "circling" the destination airport in the event of bad weather or some other event on the ground that would prohibit landing right away. (That's something that's happened to me a couple of times when flying into/through DFW.)

Also, would there be enough fuel remaining if they needed to be diverted to an alternate airport? (Something that happened not long ago to my husband when he was flying in to Charlotte... the flight was diverted to Raleigh.)

I think the only reasonable and humane way to keep passengers confined in a small tube for such a long time would be if the ENTIRE flight is business class.

 

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
4. They only flew with 27% of the seats occupied
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:06 PM
Nov 2019

It was a research flight to later see if people would pay 4 times as much to fly non-stop.

They only had 50 people on board including 3 shifts of crew and all passengers wore monitoring devices to see how their bodies function.

sdfernando

(4,929 posts)
14. On a totally unrelated note
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 05:05 PM
Nov 2019

and a joke that many might find "distasteful"....So be warned and scroll down at your own peril.
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Answer:
The taste!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. I was previously aware of everything except for the price-point. That's amazing!
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:13 PM
Nov 2019
see if people would pay 4 times as much to fly non-stop.
Sure! Sign me up!

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
18. Flew to New Zealand from LA this summer
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 05:48 PM
Nov 2019

I would rather have a 20 hour enema. The service was excellent, the staff was outstanding (New Zealand Air) but the distance in a chair was crazy.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

jpak

(41,757 posts)
6. Meh - I once took a flight on the first day in summer that landed on the first day of winter
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:10 PM
Nov 2019

New Zealand to LA.

So there....

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
16. Wow! Long fight, huh?
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 05:27 PM
Nov 2019
You see, you'd have to explain something like that to Donald Trump, and he still wouldn't understand it!

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
12. Long haul flights are torture
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:45 PM
Nov 2019

if you like pain in your butt and back, swelling all over, poor circulation, and getting to really hate the other passengers around you.

The only people who enjoy such things are the ones who can afford business or first class with the super luxurious comfort. For the rest of us, it's worth telling far flung relatives and friends a hard no on visiting them.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
13. yep - US to China - sucks
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:55 PM
Nov 2019

>>The only people who enjoy such things are the ones who can afford business or first class with the super luxurious

Absolutely. Nothing fun or glamorous about any of it.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
20. For my trip to the UK I took a cruise ship
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:45 PM
Nov 2019

Actually two ships - one there and one back. It's cheaper than flying first class and much more relaxing.

My husband and I left Fort Lauderdale July 21 on the Queen Elizabeth, stopped in New York City, Halifx Nova Scotia, St. John Newfoundland, Isafjordur Iceland, Rekjavit Iceland (puffins!) and we got off early at Port Glasgow (the ship went on to Dublin and Southampton). Fifteen days on the cruise, great food, nice excursions, and a wonderful cabin.

On the way back we took a repositioning cruise from Southampton which had nine days at sea (rough weather, but otherwise very relaxing) and stopped at St Maarten, St Thomas, Puerto Rico, and Haiti before returning to Fort Lauderdale. Another fifteen days, but we needed the relaxation after our nearly three months in the UK.

I'd priced a first class flight over and the Queen Elizabeth was 75%. The repositioning cruise was half of what the Queen Elizabeth cost.

I'd do it again since I no longer enjoy flying, but I'd want a theme cruise with things I am interested in rather than a destination cruise with the standard entertainment stuff. In a few years, I will be looking for a cruise that features bird watching, or maybe one that features cultural stops.

Talitha

(6,580 posts)
19. Count me out, I love the feeling when you take off and land.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 05:57 PM
Nov 2019

As well as exploring the airports if there's enough time, and meeting my new travel companions at each point. BTW, on a 'regular' flight from London to Sydney how many stops are there?

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
21. Humanity is approaching civilizational collapse due to burning fossil fuels for things like aircraft
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:53 PM
Nov 2019

It's ironic that this flight flew near Venice, a city just flooded by rising seas, and landed in Australia, a continent currently baking and burning from climate change.

And we're supposed to hail this latest expansion of the global airline business as a good thing.

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
27. So your answer is stay at home?
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:49 PM
Nov 2019

People travel. If they DO travel, a direct flight is more energy efficient that two connecting flights.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
29. Yes it is
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:35 AM
Nov 2019

What's more important, a functional biosphere and averting a mass extinction, or taking an annual vacation to a tropical island?

Most airline travel has to end, along with a lot of other things we take for granted these days. The fact that most people still don't realize what we're up against, and how close to the edge we are, is terrifying.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
23. I remember when Boeing first announced the 787 Dreamliner years ago.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:46 PM
Nov 2019

They specifically cited super long, intercontinental flights as being one of the capabilities of the new airliner. It's a cool capability, but you have to wonder how many people will want to endure such long flights. I can barely make it through a three hour flight without feeling dazed and stiff as a board.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
24. Use to be I always wanted a window seat. Now it's all about the restroom proximity.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:41 AM
Nov 2019

I have to use the restroom at least twice an hour, so 19.5 hrs times 2 would be aprox 39 trips to the restroom. Man problems you know.

CabalPowered

(12,690 posts)
28. Nothing like arriving with a DVT
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:19 AM
Nov 2019

And a dash of vascular distension to start your vacation.. I've pulled dozens of west coast - asia flights in the 14 hour range.. 19 hours.. no thank you, not even in 1st class. The risks start going up exponentially after 12 hours for the average adult. Compression socks and foot exercises are absolutely essential.

LudwigPastorius

(9,127 posts)
30. The amount of radiation you would receive on a 19-hour flight would be...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:38 PM
Nov 2019

equivalent to about 3 chest x-rays.

Then you would have to consider the return trip.

LudwigPastorius

(9,127 posts)
32. Those little airplane sleep masks would be mandatory.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

There's no way you could nod off with the bright glow coming off of your seat mates.

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