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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 04:28 PM Nov 2019

Italian Plot To Create New Nazi Party Uncovered, Police Say

Source: BBC News

Italian police say they have uncovered a plot to form a new Nazi party and seized weapons including rifles and swords in searches across the country.

Officers raided the homes of 19 suspects. They also found Nazi flags and books on Hitler and Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini. The target was the self-styled Italian National Socialist Workers' Party. The number of arrests made is not clear.

Monitors say anti-Semitic attacks and neo-Nazi activity are rising in Italy. Operation Black Shadows by anti-terrorism and anti-mafia police was carried out across the country, from Milan to Sicily, after two years of investigations.

The self-styled party aimed to form a pan-European alliance with other xenophobic and anti-Semitic groups, police said, without revealing how many people had joined it. One suspect allegedly had links with the 'Ndrangheta criminal network while another, a 50-year-old woman, called herself Hitler's sergeant-major...


Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50590924





Police say they found weapons and books on Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini.



Weapons and flags seized by police.
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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
3. There was activity with a group in Portugal, ones in the US and more
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 04:46 PM
Nov 2019

according to the Guardian article. This horror of anti Semitism and white nationalism that's spreading is also facilitated by social media tech corporations as actor Sacha Baron Cohen just blasted in his ADL speech that's posted here in Video.

More from BBC:

"The country's Observatory on Anti-Semitism reported 190 anti-Semitic attacks in the first nine months of the year - more than double those in 2017. Italy has a population of about 30,000 Jews, and more than 7,500 Italian Jews died during the Holocaust."

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
2. They might consider
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 04:42 PM
Nov 2019

running steve bannon out of the country for starters. He's been careening around Europe for a couple years trying to gin up support for the nazis so I'm not surprised to hear about this. I'm not saying it's only bannon who is behind this but I'd bet money he's deeply involved.

Talitha

(6,561 posts)
7. Bannon said something odd when he left the White House.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 05:34 PM
Nov 2019

That he could do more from "out there" than from within the confines of the administration. He also said something to the effect that 'we have to blow the whole thing up'. I have no idea what those words meant, but the guy has always nauseated me, so I never paid much attention to him - but I remember those lines.

Then he did something to make those rich people (Mercer?) drop him like a hot potato. After that, he seemed to vanish. So maybe he's been doing trumpootin's bidding... from 'out there' instead of from here?

Ford_Prefect

(7,872 posts)
5. They need to make public all the financial links to Putin's pals and folks like Koch and Mercer.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 04:58 PM
Nov 2019

All that co-ordination done behind the scenes is being managed by folks who have an agenda beyond the riots and the racism.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
6. It's all about power, money, exploitation, rule
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 05:16 PM
Nov 2019

"...terrorists, rather than being merely isolated bands of ideologically motivated extremists, are actually pawns of governments or private organizations who are using them to facilitate the establishment of authoritarian rule."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ludlum

Perhaps it was his Britist roots, but for whatever reason Ludlum knew the rise of Nazis could happen again.

My two cents is that because of the war and the holocaust, not enough attention has been paid to the purpose and methods of Nazi rule. First and foremost it was cronyism. Those generals around Hitler had free reign when they followed his directives, and some could create their own. Art, gold, money, possessions - you've all heard the stories of how they stripped their victims of everything. They're going after it again, the more chaos they can create gives them more cover. If they can devalue life and currency while capturing a lion's share of the gold, then they can flip to the gold standard. People will be powerless.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
10. As far as we know, and the BBC & Guardian didn't state otherwise.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 06:36 PM
Nov 2019

Antisemitism is growing in Europe as this report from Dec. 2018 shows,

"Antisemitism Pervades European Life, Says EU Report, Dec. 2018,
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46439194

Anti-Semitism is getting worse and Jews are increasingly worried about the risk of harassment, according to a major survey of 12 EU countries. Hundreds of Jews questioned by the EU's Fundamental Rights Agency said they had experienced a physical, anti-Semitic attack in the past year, while 28% said they had been harassed.

France is identified as having the biggest problem with anti-Semitism. Germany, the UK, Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands also saw incidents.

On the day the report was released, the Italian police said they were investigating the theft of 20 memorial plaques commemorating the Holocaust. The small brass plaques - dedicated to members of a Jewish family, De Consiglio - were dug out from Rome's pavements during the night.

What are the main findings? The Vienna-based FRA paints a picture of synagogues and Jewish schools requiring security protection; of "vicious commentary" on the internet, in media and in politics; and of discrimination at school and work...

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
9. I would love to see a hard hitting sweep of the white nationalists in the US.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 05:58 PM
Nov 2019

It should be done in a manner that would have a terrifying affect
on wannabe nazis and others in this nation.
It should make them afraid to be white nationalists.
This should also make use of a public educational
campaign highlighting the danger of letting these groups flourish.

The only good nazis are in holes in the ground.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. One has to wonder what these people are thinking
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:42 AM
Nov 2019

It didn't go very well for the first Nazi party with Adolph Hitler, did it? Yes, they destroyed a lot, they robbed a lot, they did horrible things a lot as well, but at the end it didn't work out for them, some went to jail, others committed suicide, others were killed, so why try a failed notion again? What makes them think it will work fine for them this time? Maybe they feel encouraged because a deranged man is in the white house who seems to have similar thoughts? The deranged man in the white house is also going down...

It is like the bunch of republican idiots thinking the creature will not throw them under the bus when he gets a chance because they are special? No under the bus for me? This time the nazi movement will work as planned? Crooks and idiots, all of them.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
12. I would not be surprised to learn that they have Sky Italia as Rupert Murdoch owns it and he
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:27 AM
Nov 2019

created Fox News which is essentially the favorite news channel for such people.

LittleGirl

(8,279 posts)
13. The cancer of racism
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:30 AM
Nov 2019

is spreading around the world. The racist Italians are upset about all of the migrants that came to their country. They want them out!

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