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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:26 AM Dec 2019

Doug Jones says impeachment must be above electoral politics

Source: Politico

Doug Jones, the most vulnerable Democratic lawmaker up for reelection in the Senate, on Sunday dismissed concerns that a vote to remove President Donald Trump from office would cost him his Senate seat.

“Everyone wants to talk about this in the political terms and the political consequences term. This is a much more serious matter than that,” the Alabama senator told ABC’s “This Week” co-anchor Martha Raddatz.

“This has to do with the future of the presidency and how we want our presidents to conduct themselves. It has all to do with the future of the Senate and how the Senate should handle impeachment and articles of impeachment that come over. That’s how I’m looking at this,” he added. “If I did everything based on a pure political argument all you’d need is a computer to mash a button. That’s just not what this country is about. It’s not what the founders intended to do.”

Jones was asked if he might be one of the Democrats that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he believes will defect from the party in a vote to acquit the president. “I have no idea what Mitch McConnell’s talking about these days,” he said.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/22/doug-jones-impeachment-089307

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Doug Jones says impeachment must be above electoral politics (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2019 OP
"I have no idea what Mitch McConnell's talking about these days" eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #1
Taking a cue from the master of trolling the GOP... Speaker Pelosi. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #21
News flash... safeinOhio Dec 2019 #2
Thank you - this thought makes my day.n/t MBS Dec 2019 #6
Excellent response that all 'vulnerable' Dems should state. SharonClark Dec 2019 #3
Good BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #4
Bravo. n/t MBS Dec 2019 #5
Good for Doug Jones! Lucky Luciano Dec 2019 #7
I like to believe Jones has a fighting chance for reelection.... gopers may be fractured here groundloop Dec 2019 #8
I think voters actually will respect Jones for that DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #9
That seat is going back republican regardless madville Dec 2019 #10
It will be nice if you turn out to be wrong mdbl Dec 2019 #12
With Trump on the ticket madville Dec 2019 #14
Let's see what ads they run against Sessions before we... SKKY Dec 2019 #16
You can't ever write off an incumbent a year early... but he has a tough road ahead FBaggins Dec 2019 #17
What could you say about Sessions that would make him unpopular with Alabama voters? brooklynite Dec 2019 #18
He's a closet liberal and gay rpannier Dec 2019 #19
Well some of the right wing nuts who support Roy Moore would say... Crowman2009 Dec 2019 #23
I live in Alabama... KBlagburn Dec 2019 #24
Sessions would beat Jones in a landslide Polybius Dec 2019 #25
Wonder if their going to have a "who loves Drumpf the best" GOP debate. Crowman2009 Dec 2019 #27
Yes it is Stuckinthebush Dec 2019 #22
My Senator. He is a good man. I hope I can continue to say that. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #11
does anyone care about what is good for the country, instead NRaleighLiberal Dec 2019 #13
And so it is. Good for Senator Jones. PatrickforO Dec 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Dec 2019 #20
Don't Write Off Doug Jones - Republicans Are Scum And Who Knows What Will Come Out Before November DanieRains Dec 2019 #26
I hope he doesn't lose his seat. But I am very gratified that he is putting the good totodeinhere Dec 2019 #28
LOL Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #29

SharonClark

(10,309 posts)
3. Excellent response that all 'vulnerable' Dems should state.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

It's the repugs who are making it partisan, not the Dems.

groundloop

(12,172 posts)
8. I like to believe Jones has a fighting chance for reelection.... gopers may be fractured here
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:47 PM
Dec 2019

So far I've heard that Roy Moore, Jeff Sessions, and former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville want the seat. Tuberville may not fight dirty, but I imagine that Sessions and Moore will be slinging mud against the others in the primary. Hopefully they'll dirty up the eventual goper nominee enough that Jones will come out ahead in the general again.

DeminPennswoods

(16,238 posts)
9. I think voters actually will respect Jones for that
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:10 PM
Dec 2019

Jones didn't back away from any of his core beliefs when he ran and won and isn't now.

Here in Pennsylvania, lots of people disagree with Sen Casey's personal opposition to abortion, but he comes by that honestly as part of his belief in the Catholic social teachings, and Pennsylvanians respect that.

madville

(7,449 posts)
14. With Trump on the ticket
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:00 PM
Dec 2019

The republican senate nominee will win by 15+, unless they nominate Moore again or something but that is unlikely.

SKKY

(12,217 posts)
16. Let's see what ads they run against Sessions before we...
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:31 PM
Dec 2019

...right him off. I think Jones might have a puncher’s chance against Sessions.

FBaggins

(27,514 posts)
17. You can't ever write off an incumbent a year early... but he has a tough road ahead
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:31 PM
Dec 2019

He either votes for impeachment and loses most of his crossover vote... or he votes against it and loses much of his base. And he's already down by several points in a poll released today (before he has to make the decision).

He beats Moore handily... but I don't see how Moore gets the nod.

rpannier

(24,567 posts)
19. He's a closet liberal and gay
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:26 AM
Dec 2019

Other than that, I can't think of anything that would make Sessions unpopular with Alabama voters

Crowman2009

(2,779 posts)
23. Well some of the right wing nuts who support Roy Moore would say...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:54 AM
Dec 2019

...that he cut & ran on Drump. Basically Moore and Sessions will be arguing who can give the best BJ to the orange twat.

KBlagburn

(571 posts)
24. I live in Alabama...
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 12:18 AM
Dec 2019

half of trumpers hate Sessions and the other half hate moore. It will be interesting with Tuberville and Congressman Bradley Byrne in the race. With a 4 way split it's anybody's game but if moore or sessions slip by, Jones has a good chance.

Crowman2009

(2,779 posts)
27. Wonder if their going to have a "who loves Drumpf the best" GOP debate.
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

That's what it's going to come down to, issues be damned in their world. I'd love for some prankster to ask a question like: Would you give Trump a handjob if forgiveness from Jesus was included?

Stuckinthebush

(11,017 posts)
22. Yes it is
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:31 AM
Dec 2019

I'm an Alabamian and know people associated with the Doug Jones campaign. They are hopeful but when pressed will say it's an uphill battle. The stars aligned for Alabama Dems when Roy Moore was catapulted as the GOP senate nominee against Jones. That was the main reason Doug won. He had a wonderful campaign, of course, and ran as a centrist which helped. But in the end it was the nastiness of his GOP challenger that helped.

I think Doug will be up against Tommy Tuberville this time. Either Tommy or Sessions, but I think Sessions has been so ruined by Trump that even Trump can't bring him back. Tommy Tuberville is an ex Auburn coach who has a following of sorts. If Doug is up against him, Doug loses. Even Alabama fans will vote for Tuberville over Jones. I think Doug also loses to Sessions if Jeff becomes the GOP nominee.

It's bleak. I've encouraged all of my children to get as far away from this state as possible. That saddens me as a life long Alabamian but we can't pretend that Alabama is going to be purple any time in the near or even far future.

PatrickforO

(15,100 posts)
15. And so it is. Good for Senator Jones.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:03 PM
Dec 2019

Makes me want to donate to his campaign because THIS is exactly the kind of person we want in Congress. Someone who cares more about principles than about being reelected.

Thank you so much for posting this! Just that fact is inspirational.

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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
26. Don't Write Off Doug Jones - Republicans Are Scum And Who Knows What Will Come Out Before November
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 02:45 AM
Dec 2019

I know it is Alabama, but we don't know the future.

Sessions had one foot in Hell and the other one in Satan's Outhouse while "serving" Trump.

If the Evangelicals have "a problem" it may get crazy.

Since most White Evangelicals ignore what Christ taught, and support Satan's Army (Republicans) something may break loose there.

The poor, the hungry, the needy? Republicans steal, and lose their children, while storing them in freezing cages.

I wish Democrats would simply point out how E-V-I-L Republicans are on a daily basis.

Zero Trump Supporting Republicans Will Go To Heaven.

totodeinhere

(13,260 posts)
28. I hope he doesn't lose his seat. But I am very gratified that he is putting the good
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019

of the country first.

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