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highplainsdem

(61,894 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:11 AM Sep 2012

Bill Kristol: ‘Obama team turned around’ Bush’s financial meltdown

Source: The Raw Story

Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol says that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is going to have a tough time winning if the election is a referendum on President Barack Obama’s first term.

“They need to focus on the next four years,” the conservative columnist told Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday. “If this election is just about the last four years, that’s a muddy verdict.”

“Bush was president during the financial meltdown, the Obama team has turned that around pretty well,” he explained. “He’s got to make it a referendum on the choice about the next four years, and explain what Obama would do over the next four years that would be bad for the country and what he would do would be good for the country.”

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/23/bill-kristol-obama-team-turned-around-bushs-financial-meltdown/

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Bill Kristol: ‘Obama team turned around’ Bush’s financial meltdown (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
And the Romnoid Republican 1% will turn it right back around again: to FAIL Berlum Sep 2012 #1
Love that toon! Bozita Sep 2012 #16
If the Republicans "forcing" Bill Clinton to follow their lead made such a great economy ... zbdent Sep 2012 #18
Seems to me there is a rift in the GOP powers berni_mccoy Sep 2012 #2
Because they know a Mittens presidency would doom the GOP for the next 100 years. beac Sep 2012 #27
"the Obama team has turned that around pretty well,” OK what's going on here? Is this his attempt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #3
Did Kristol hit his head skeewee08 Sep 2012 #4
that seems to make the most sense magical thyme Sep 2012 #7
He's repositioning, trying to pre-retroactively rack up some "why Romney lost" statements JHB Sep 2012 #15
We have a winner! stubtoe Sep 2012 #34
I don't think they WANT the Presidency. I think they want to destroy the country on his watch. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #5
I'm afraid you're right. I think that the fix is in. yardwork Sep 2012 #14
my god ... he finally got something right ... n/t rsweets Sep 2012 #6
He doesn't like Romney, but this? Faygo Kid Sep 2012 #8
The Neocons that aren't actively torpedoing Mitt in favor of Jebbie are bailing on him. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #9
That's a good point, but . . . Faygo Kid Sep 2012 #11
The rest of them are still pining for a Bushie again. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #20
I heard Bill Kristol say that and he was very sincere. Justice Sep 2012 #10
Why is this fuck on TV? Hissyspit Sep 2012 #12
+1000! eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #21
The neocons don't want Romney. Ruby the Liberal Sep 2012 #13
But Obama Has Already Countered Kristol's Advice DallasNE Sep 2012 #17
He wants Romney and Republicans to win. There is no subtext strategy here... reACTIONary Sep 2012 #19
Remember, Kristol is a Neocon. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #22
Bill Kristol tells the truth. Shocking. Hamlette Sep 2012 #23
Now there's some insight Meandering1 Sep 2012 #32
What was Chris Wallace's reaction?? tjdee Sep 2012 #24
Almost Sounds Like an Endorsement AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #25
Bill Kristol is doing, in a weak candy-assed way... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #26
At this rate, by election day, Bill will be voting for Obama 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #28
He would Do what Bush Did JI7 Sep 2012 #29
The only problem animalcrackers Sep 2012 #30
He gets it rks306 Sep 2012 #31
A neo-con admits that President Obama turns around the economic. ywcachieve Sep 2012 #33

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. And the Romnoid Republican 1% will turn it right back around again: to FAIL
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sep 2012

Republiconomics for the 1% has already demonstrated repeatedly how to screw virtually all of the American people in order to further enrich the rich. We don't need no more steenkin Republican FAIL. For Gawd's sake.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
18. If the Republicans "forcing" Bill Clinton to follow their lead made such a great economy ...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
Sep 2012

then why did the economy go "South" when the Republicans had FULL POWER???

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
2. Seems to me there is a rift in the GOP powers
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sep 2012

Some of the GOP powerful do not want Mitt to make it.

beac

(9,992 posts)
27. Because they know a Mittens presidency would doom the GOP for the next 100 years.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:11 PM
Sep 2012

Assuming there would still be a country left after Rmoney, ace diplomat and crackerkjack manager got through with it!

Also, with Bush, they could at least console themselves that Cheney would be actually running the country... behind the scenes from an undisclosed location where he wouldn't repulse ordinary Americans. They've learned that Mittwit is an idiot, they are realizing Lyin' Ryan ain't the bright boy he's been cracked up to be and they know BOTH their candidates are too vain to realize how much they turn people off.

 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
3. "the Obama team has turned that around pretty well,” OK what's going on here? Is this his attempt
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:31 AM
Sep 2012

at jinxing the administration? We all Know Kristol hasn't been right about anything.... ever!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. that seems to make the most sense
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:39 AM
Sep 2012

He's suggesting Romney return the discussion to ME policy?!? Really?!?

He thinks Obama stumbled on that?!?

JHB

(38,167 posts)
15. He's repositioning, trying to pre-retroactively rack up some "why Romney lost" statements
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
Sep 2012

Basically he's already started auditioning for the favor of the next Republican supastaah.

yardwork

(69,301 posts)
14. I'm afraid you're right. I think that the fix is in.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:23 PM
Sep 2012

The Republicans keep control of the House and push their agenda forward, while the White House and "Congress" get the blame. (Yes, I know that the House is half of Congress. Unfortunately, a very significant number of Americans don't understand how the system works at all so it's pathetically easy for the Republicans to lie and get away with it. See Ryan.)

Faygo Kid

(21,492 posts)
8. He doesn't like Romney, but this?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:42 AM
Sep 2012

Good grief. He's been absolutely critical of Romney, but a nod to Obama? Where's the real Bill Kristol, and what have you done with him??

Let's hope he keeps moving in this direction.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
9. The Neocons that aren't actively torpedoing Mitt in favor of Jebbie are bailing on him.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:43 AM
Sep 2012

If Mitt gets in there, Jebbie won't be able to in 2016.

Faygo Kid

(21,492 posts)
11. That's a good point, but . . .
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
Sep 2012

You have pure and unfiltered neocons like Jennifer Rubin at The Washington Post all in for the Mittster.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
20. The rest of them are still pining for a Bushie again.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sep 2012

Rubin has only one agenda.

The rest use that same agenda as a tool in order to make money, but in Rubin's case, it's her only reason she does what she does.

Hissyspit

(45,790 posts)
12. Why is this fuck on TV?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:15 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't give a damn what he has to say no matter what he says.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,650 posts)
13. The neocons don't want Romney.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:21 PM
Sep 2012

Never did. They are going to hold out for 2016 for another "nation building, democracy spreading" war hawk.

DallasNE

(8,002 posts)
17. But Obama Has Already Countered Kristol's Advice
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:45 PM
Sep 2012

Romney's message going forward is to not only extend all of Bush's tax cuts but to add new ones for the super rich so how does doubling down on what Bush gave us not simply plunge us into another financial meltdown. Stale Republican ideas that never seem to work is indeed a hard sale to make regardless of how much money Rove had to lavish on Romney's campaign. And speaking of Rove, he has been called Bush's brain so there you go again. Face it Kristol, you have a lost cause.

reACTIONary

(7,152 posts)
19. He wants Romney and Republicans to win. There is no subtext strategy here...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:49 PM
Sep 2012

... he's just sincerely offering what he thinks is good advice.

Obama did a decent job, despite Republican obstructionism, and he is acknowledging that because that is what the typical voter will perceive. If Romney is going to win, he has to sell the Republican world view / vision over the Democratic vision, not run against Obama's record.

If only they had a better vision, it would be good advice.

Hamlette

(15,556 posts)
23. Bill Kristol tells the truth. Shocking.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:54 PM
Sep 2012

At least part of his statement is the truth. A first for that creep.

 

Meandering1

(36 posts)
32. Now there's some insight
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:34 AM
Sep 2012

from the wording of the O/Poster I though he was talking about another Bill Kristol. Just didn't seem to be the same right wing extremist I've always known Kristol to be. Or maybe he had the name spelled wrong. Like Billy Crystal or something..




Ben Sobeleone!






Is Bill Kristol the stopped clock that's right once today?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
26. Bill Kristol is doing, in a weak candy-assed way...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

what Bill Buckley did in the fifties, kick the right wing extremists to the curb. I don't think he has the intellectual chops.

For what it is worth, he is right, the Campaign should be about the next four years, about rival visions of the path ahead. From the beginning the campaign, even during the primary, was based on a fantasy that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Communist Nazi left wing extremist who took a thriving economy and turned it to shit. Romney doesn't have the balls or the ability to tell the truth.

So Kristol is like that Greek guy, wondering through the streets of Athens looking for an honest man. I suspect it will get him drummed out of the right wing Choir.

animalcrackers

(93 posts)
30. The only problem
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:05 PM
Sep 2012

is that they have no direction going forward. At the moment they are backed into a corner. People are finally starting to realize all the lies spewing from the GOP puppets so the "Obama wrecked everything" amnesia is wearing off. At the same time the Republican party is so disorganized because it sold its soul to the teabaggers, who in turn are ruled by a shit mix of Big Business, xenophobes, and delusional ideologues. So they keep there policies vague because they either A) can't reach a consensus (or) B) they realize their policies are incredibly unpopular. All they really had was trying to discredit the Pres

rks306

(116 posts)
31. He gets it
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:54 AM
Sep 2012

We need to rebuild our bridges and roads. More highspeed rail. Honesty is the best way to go.

ywcachieve

(365 posts)
33. A neo-con admits that President Obama turns around the economic.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:55 AM
Sep 2012

An economy that was in free-fall when bush left office. They all know it, but it is good to hear one of them being honest, and admitting it, publicly.

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