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turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:01 PM Jan 2020

Victims' bodies still at New Orleans Hard Rock Hotel months after collapse

Source: The Guardian

Wind blows tarp off one of two bodies amid ruins
Unstable building to be imploded in March

Three months after the partial collapse of the Hard Rock hotel construction site on the tip of New Orleans’s historic French Quarter, a macabre reminder of the tragedy that claimed three lives was visible to passersby this week.

Among the collapsed building’s twisted remains and rubble, the dangling legs of a wedged corpse were revealed to the public after a tarpaulin sheet covering the body was blown away by wind.

The gruesome sight came as city officials are scrambling to dismantle the 18-storey, 350-room hotel, which remains an eyesore and still holds the trapped remains of two workers, Quinnyon Wimberly and José Ponce Arreola.

After images of the exposed corpse provoked outrage on social media, city firefighters installed a new tarp on Wednesday afternoon. As of Thursday morning the covering remained intact, as police maintained a heavy presence around the collapsed building.

The mayor of New Orleans, LaToya Cantrell, urged members of the public and the media not to photograph or share images of the body.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/23/new-orleans-hard-rock-hotel-body-collapse



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are you fucking serious........................
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Victims' bodies still at New Orleans Hard Rock Hotel months after collapse (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2020 OP
Want to bet they are hispanic? redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #1
That is just disgusting.........................what they are doing to those bodies................. turbinetree Jan 2020 #2
Hold up a second. Jirel Jan 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #17
I assume they do not want someone else killed trying to retrieve the body. nt USALiberal Jan 2020 #8
Nonsense. There is no way to get the bodies out safely at this point. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2020 #5
Why I love DU. I would not ever have heard your perspective otherwise. mahina Jan 2020 #11
Quinnyon's black. Your argument holds up; another minority. Shrike47 Jan 2020 #7
And Mayor LaToya? Hekate Jan 2020 #14
New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell is black. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2020 #16
One hispanic, one black. marble falls Jan 2020 #9
A pity, but not unrealistic to expect this. Jirel Jan 2020 #3
The plan is to drop the build and recover the remains. marble falls Jan 2020 #10
There is a march plannned for tomorrow. likesmountains 52 Jan 2020 #4
If someone can put a tarp up there, why not get the bodies? Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #12
They probably used a crane hack89 Jan 2020 #13
The dead are dead. MicaelS Jan 2020 #15
Failure of Leadership--From New Orleans Roy Rolling Jan 2020 #18
Victims' bodies still at New Orleans Hard Rock Hotel months after collaps Keira21 Jan 2020 #19
I hate driving downtown. revolutionbrees Jan 2020 #20

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
6. Hold up a second.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jan 2020

It's horrible that the bodies are still in there. But what would you like to do instead, when the building is a criminally unstable disaster zone? Do you consider a high risk of death to whoever gets sent up to have to CUT AWAY broken and collapsed concrete and metal to free the bodies a reasonable risk? One or more serious injuries or deaths to retrieve the body of someone whose body is of no use to themselves any more? We want to honor the dead and give comfort to the families, but it makes no sense to trade another life or severe injury for that. If it was possible to do reasonably safely, it would've been done.

Response to Jirel (Reply #6)

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
5. Nonsense. There is no way to get the bodies out safely at this point.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jan 2020

They don't even know where one of the two is located. The second body is trapped under heavy debris many floors above street level.

New Orleans is a very blue city and extremely welcoming to immigrants. This tragedy has taken a toll on my city and the last thing we need is for outsiders to spread baseless rumors.

mahina

(17,652 posts)
11. Why I love DU. I would not ever have heard your perspective otherwise.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jan 2020

Your post makes perfect sense. Thank you.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
16. New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell is black.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:22 PM
Jan 2020

She has been hands-on since the hotel collapsed. She gives press conferences several times a week, along with other local department heads, to update the public on the plans to retrieve the bodies and demolish the hotel.

The argument that this is about race is bullshit.

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
3. A pity, but not unrealistic to expect this.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

The building is incredibly unstable. They have no idea, right now, how they're going to get the bodies out without killing the people sent up to do it. Heck, they don't know how they'll get the building down without creating a lot more danger and damage to nearby buildings. It sucks that the body is no longer covered, and **if possible** to do so safely, they should at least try to cover them up again while they figure out how to get the bodies out and the building down.

Edit: The building demolition is now slated for MAY because it is much worse than they thought. To do it, they are seeking permits to take down 3 more nearby buildings. Yeah, that bad.
https://www.nola.com/news/article_6a354d5e-2378-11ea-bf29-c314fc7d4692.html

likesmountains 52

(4,098 posts)
4. There is a march plannned for tomorrow.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

#HardRockCollapseMarch. They plan on marching from the collapse site, to City Hall.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. They probably used a crane
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 06:59 PM
Jan 2020

And didn’t touch the steel structure. To remove the body you are going to have to put people on the structure and cut/move a lot of heavy debris.

And they have no idea where the second body is. It is not visible.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
15. The dead are dead.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jan 2020

They feel nothing, know nothing. No use in risking lives to recover two corpses. Race has nothing to do with it.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
18. Failure of Leadership--From New Orleans
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 02:26 AM
Jan 2020

There is no progress on demolishing the building in months, while managers and financiers sit on their ass trying to find the cheapest way. It was ignoring whistleblower complaints about the building worsened the disaster, and then deporting the whistleblower. If they weren’t looking for the cheapest labor this would be solved. Always looking to save their precious money, while a hulk of a building stays untouched in the French Quarter.

It’s time for unions to take over the site and dismantle it piece-by-piece.

“But isn’t that dangerous?” Fucking-A it is, that’s why you pay hazard wages for people to risk their lives. Construction workers aren’t afraid, they aren’t crybabies like the owners of these zones. Pay them for their risk, isn’t that how capitalism works?

Where are our union voices? Because our political leaders and developers have failed us.

Keira21

(2 posts)
19. Victims' bodies still at New Orleans Hard Rock Hotel months after collaps
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 02:43 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:12 AM - Edit history (1)

There is no advancement on crushing the structure in months, while directors and agents sit on their can attempting to locate the least expensive way. It was disregarding informant grievances about the structure declined the catastrophe, and afterward ousting the informant. On the off chance that they weren't searching for the least expensive work this would be unraveled. Continually hoping to set aside their valuable cash, while a mass of a structure remains immaculate in the French Quarter.MyBKExperience

revolutionbrees

(39 posts)
20. I hate driving downtown.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jan 2020

Quinnyon Wimberly's fiancee said that she had been told by attorneys for the developer and by city officials that they were unable to locate either body. There was speculation why the original red tarp was in place and she was shocked when she saw the photos on social media. Of course, that may be José Ponce Arreola's remains, but sickening in either case.

The collapse has turned into another tourist attraction. Our neighbors had family in for the College Football Championship and they all left early so they could stop by and see the Hard Rock. Sickening!!!!!

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