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bucolic_frolic

(43,042 posts)
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:04 PM Feb 2020

Montana state GOP lawmaker says Constitution calls for socialists to be jailed, shot

Source: The Hill

Montana state GOP lawmaker says Constitution calls for socialists to be jailed, shot

So actually in the Constitution of the United States (if) they are found guilty of being a socialist member you either go to prison or are shot,” the Montana Republican said.

Though he was reportedly unable to show what portion of the Constitution he was citing to back his claim, he continued to double down on his comments in the interview, saying: “They’re enemies of the free state.”

“What do we do with our enemies in war? In Vietnam, (Afghanistan), all those. What did we do?” he continued.

“I agree with my Constitution. That’s what makes us free. We’re not a democracy, we’re a Republic Constitution,” he also said.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/481119-montana-state-gop-lawmaker-says-constitution-calls-for-socialists-to-be



Not far from the full Nazi ... nor from several GOP
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Montana state GOP lawmaker says Constitution calls for socialists to be jailed, shot (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 OP
these people are sick, sick, SICK Skittles Feb 2020 #1
Really, like Jesus would do Traildogbob Feb 2020 #2
And what shall we do with fascists, fascists? Grokenstein Feb 2020 #3
His Name Is Me. Feb 2020 #4
And sadly, probably a safe seat. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #11
Not to generalize or MontanaMama Feb 2020 #30
Yeah, he sure is. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #35
You know he does. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #40
Kick dalton99a Feb 2020 #5
For every single mom there's a single dad out there who isn't taking PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #20
And for every abortion... jmbar2 Feb 2020 #48
"we're a Republic Constitution?" DFW Feb 2020 #6
"......we're a Republic Constitution.." pangaia Feb 2020 #7
When you want to say "Constitutional Republic" Grokenstein Feb 2020 #10
yeah, i know.. just being picky pangaia Feb 2020 #18
I have a little hobby. ChazInAz Feb 2020 #27
He had "Republican Reich" in mind not fooled Feb 2020 #42
Expect more of this crap and worse from the GOP. C Moon Feb 2020 #8
Really stupid asshole with violent fantasies lunasun Feb 2020 #9
IOW, a Trump Republican. dchill Feb 2020 #15
Lots of people play with guns around here... 2naSalit Feb 2020 #12
+1 MontanaMama Feb 2020 #52
Yup, it works. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #59
or sent to Russia... elias7 Feb 2020 #13
This idiot needs to resign ... does not deserve the office he's in. I agree w/ my constitution ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #14
Trying to get Bernie and AOC zentrum Feb 2020 #16
Here are his email and tel # pangaia Feb 2020 #17
Thanks!!! MontanaMama Feb 2020 #31
aol.com? are you kidding me? jmbar2 Feb 2020 #46
look at his record in the state senate... everything died pangaia Feb 2020 #47
I didn't know PatSeg Feb 2020 #19
He needs to be handed a copy of the Constitution and PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #21
These people have green pus growing between their ears. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #22
Another phony tough guy with a big mouth. Progressive Jones Feb 2020 #23
Shooting? That's over the top! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #44
So he says "What did we do to Vietnam?" Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #25
Wonder where he heard this. Oldem Feb 2020 #26
I hope they know what a socialist really is and how it is hard to be one when you are also for The Wielding Truth Feb 2020 #28
Yep - almost ALL NASA rocket scientists come from Montana. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #29
Hey now, one of the women who were the first to spacewalk together 2naSalit Feb 2020 #36
Back per down a notch, MontanaMama Feb 2020 #54
"I agree with my Constitution." Piasladic Feb 2020 #32
His photo with more info here littlemissmartypants Feb 2020 #33
Ask him what the Constitution says about robots tclambert Feb 2020 #34
The Constitution clearly states that Jean-Claude Van Damme is the Time Cop. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #57
He needs Turbineguy Feb 2020 #37
I'm glad both parties condemned this. David__77 Feb 2020 #38
because nothing says freedom like imprisoning and murdering your political opponents DBoon Feb 2020 #39
He seems nice...;/ NotHardly Feb 2020 #41
I believe that there has been a mass BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #43
And yet, they get 2 Senators and undue power over MILLIONS in this country... Moostache Feb 2020 #51
Was Idaho getting too crowded? SoCalNative Feb 2020 #53
There have been pockets of MontanaMama Feb 2020 #56
I do remember the Freemen, but BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #61
Wish I could rec your post MontanaMama Feb 2020 #64
Following your earlier post and to refresh my memory, BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #67
Rep. Rodney Garcia (R-Mont.). Call him out by name. jmbar2 Feb 2020 #45
How did someone named Garcia get here without immigrating? not_the_one Feb 2020 #50
Oh yes. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #55
I read in the bible that government politicians who call for killing others Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #49
wtaf? area51 Feb 2020 #58
And he's already been elected??? marble falls Feb 2020 #60
He wants a shooting war? I'm game... Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #62
unthinkable repulsive bullshit nonsense today, law of the land tomorrow 0rganism Feb 2020 #63
the ignorance is repulsive onetexan Feb 2020 #65
I think he is confused. Jail and execution is the punishment for treason, not_the_one Feb 2020 #66

Traildogbob

(8,674 posts)
2. Really, like Jesus would do
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:14 PM
Feb 2020

Does his shooting apply to our socialists paid government, or our socialist paid military?

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
3. And what shall we do with fascists, fascists?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:16 PM
Feb 2020

Are fascists not also our enemies? Even more so?

“What do we do with our enemies in war? In Vietnam, (Afghanistan), all those. What did we do?” he continued.

Yeah, he sounds knowledgeable. /s

I'll tell you what we didn't do, chickenhawk: We didn't hold fucking pogroms in which we executed Vietnamese and Afghans living in the United States. War crimes were/are committed, stateside and abroad, and many perpetrators get away with it, but My Lai doesn't justify the sort of shit you're proposing. Delete your existence.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
11. And sadly, probably a safe seat.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:25 PM
Feb 2020

Our legislative body is RED and the governor is Democrat as is one of our Senators. Hopefully the body slammer in the House will be replaced by a Democrat as well.

As for this shitwad, he'll receive praise from the uneducated shit shovelers and get re-elected. But he's put himself on a national stage now and I hope it bites him in the ass really hard.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
30. Not to generalize or
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:26 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:11 AM - Edit history (1)

anything ...but the dude’s name is Garcia. He’s talking big for having that name isn’t he?

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
35. Yeah, he sure is.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Must be how he keeps his cred with the white folks in his district. Bet he has a couple hundred guns.

dalton99a

(81,391 posts)
5. Kick
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:17 PM
Feb 2020
The Montana Democratic Party on Saturday evening released a statement decrying Garcia.

"Rodney Garcia has brazenly flaunted his conviction for a domestic dispute, called single moms deadbeats, and was only elected because he created an illegal campaign cash scam. Now he's publicly calling for people to be shot,” said party chair Robyn Driscoll, adding she thinks candidates who were at the event should condemn Garcia.

jmbar2

(4,860 posts)
48. And for every abortion...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:21 AM
Feb 2020

...there is a male involved, but never blamed for being a slut. It's all about beating up women when they are at the lowest points in their lives.

DFW

(54,273 posts)
6. "we're a Republic Constitution?"
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:18 PM
Feb 2020

And we all drink covfefe in the state of Nambia while we're at it, right?

Afghanistan Bananistan...........

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
10. When you want to say "Constitutional Republic"
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:24 PM
Feb 2020

...(which is accurate), but you're too excited and aroused by the thought of slaughtering American citizens en masse.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic

ChazInAz

(2,558 posts)
27. I have a little hobby.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:05 PM
Feb 2020

When a RWNJ pops off with that "Constitutional Republic" bit, I always ask them to define the term. Sometimes I turn on my accent when I ask.

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
8. Expect more of this crap and worse from the GOP.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:21 PM
Feb 2020

Now that their "king" has got away with crimes against his own country, they think they can do the same.
They know he's guilty of impeachable crimes, but they don't care.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
12. Lots of people play with guns around here...
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:28 PM
Feb 2020

maybe we'll get lucky and he'll become victimized by his own ignorance by choice.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
14. This idiot needs to resign ... does not deserve the office he's in. I agree w/ my constitution ...
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:28 PM
Feb 2020

yak yak yak and yet he can't find the part of the constitution that says enemies should be shot. Ironic that he's using the quote 'enemies of the free state' when in fact, he clearly is.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Here are his email and tel #
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:32 PM
Feb 2020

let's tell him what we think



Primary ph: (406) 850-7346
Email: chairmangarcia@aol.com



PatSeg

(47,255 posts)
19. I didn't know
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:53 PM
Feb 2020

they had socialists when the constitution was written. Also didn't know we are a "Republic Constitution", must have been sick the day it was taught in American History class.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
21. He needs to be handed a copy of the Constitution and
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:05 PM
Feb 2020

not allowed to leave the room until he can point out exactly where it says that.

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #24)

Oldem

(833 posts)
26. Wonder where he heard this.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:05 PM
Feb 2020

Oh, right; Hannity once said, on the air, that the nation wouldn't be safe until all liberals are dead.

The Wielding Truth

(11,411 posts)
28. I hope they know what a socialist really is and how it is hard to be one when you are also for
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:08 PM
Feb 2020

democracy and capitalism and wish to have leaders to vote in your behalf. This is a silly law. I think however that mass media should have back up for any news story. Fox News should stop representing itself as news.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
36. Hey now, one of the women who were the first to spacewalk together
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 11:14 PM
Feb 2020

is from Montana. He happened to shoot his mouth off and someone exposed him, good. It'll help us get rid of him. It's a huge state with a small population and word gets around... sometimes it takes a little longer. One of the things I love about this state is that there is such a thing as tomorrow, and for most things, if something didn't get done today, probably okay if it happens tomorrow. Weather permitting that is.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
32. "I agree with my Constitution."
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020

Well, I guess if he ever has any power, my (US) Constitution means nothing.

I swore an oath to the United States Constitution, one I remember taking. I'm a Socialist and this is the most frighting thing I've ever experienced. I wanted to live out in the open... under the sky. Now, I fear.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
34. Ask him what the Constitution says about robots
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020

and time travelers. The Constitution is really harsh when it comes to time travelers.

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
57. The Constitution clearly states that Jean-Claude Van Damme is the Time Cop.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:33 PM
Feb 2020

He's responsible for policing the timeline. I know it's in there somewhere.

I'm not quite sure what it has to say about robots, though.

DBoon

(22,338 posts)
39. because nothing says freedom like imprisoning and murdering your political opponents
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 11:59 PM
Feb 2020

very strange definition of freedom here

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
43. I believe that there has been a mass
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:30 AM
Feb 2020

migration of "Stupid" into Montana, especially into eastern Montana.

We always had our crazies there, but there used to be fewer of them. Most of them had the sense to stay under the radar.

Now they are proud to display their ignorance before the world, encouraged by and following their role model in the WH.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
51. And yet, they get 2 Senators and undue power over MILLIONS in this country...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:27 PM
Feb 2020

We need to face facts - the founders NEVER, in their wildest dreams imagined a coast-to-coast nation of 350+ million people - for fuck's sake, that was nearly a third of the ENTIRE population of the world in 1800 (some 990 million people estimated).

The Senate as currently comprised is almost as hideously bad as the Electoral College model.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
56. There have been pockets of
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020

crazy up here...but agreed they did have the good sense to keep their traps shut and live their best life in the shadows...except the Freemen back in the ‘90’s. Remember those guys? Good grief. Eastern MT does seem to attract them and they’ve of course been emboldened by the MF. Good people are calling them out. There are more of us than there are of them.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
61. I do remember the Freemen, but
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:07 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:26 AM - Edit history (1)

wasn't living there at the time. I believe that they made a movie about how the Freemen terrorized a magistrate.

I know that there are many more good people than these eedjits there. I'm related to quite a few of those good people and went to school with many others. But the scumbags do seem to get more press coverage.

Thanks so much for calling them out!

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
67. Following your earlier post and to refresh my memory,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:52 AM
Feb 2020

I looked up the Freemen. Here's the Wiki write-up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Freemen

Here's a story, with pix, about the standoff: https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-freemen-standoff/collection_df534ac6-ada1-54ff-affa-2313a7baecc6.html#2

Here's a summary from the SPLC: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/1998/montana-freemen-trial-may-mark-end-era

Here's a movie about them, but it's not the one that I was thinking of: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6391364/

Hope that the links work.

The movie I'm thinking of was likely a TV movie rather than one released in theaters and the group terrorizing the woman magistrate was apparently one of the other militant groups. But it was based on a true story. Unfortunately, I'm just not finding it on "the Google."

People took these things seriously in the 90s. Times have certainly changed.

There are other crazy groups in MT. Some, like the Pinesdale group, are more benign than militant: https://www.abcfoxmontana.com/missoula/report-says-montana-polygamist-group-is-divided/article_b44dcba6-5b0e-11e9-8f71-13e5e1e5d48a.html

But still, nuttier than fruitcakes. Literally, the "dumbing-down" of the USA.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
50. How did someone named Garcia get here without immigrating?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

If his ancestors immigrated, did they do it through the proper channels?

Just askin' for a friend.

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
49. I read in the bible that government politicians who call for killing others
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020

Will be struck down by God.......

You know, though shall not kill.

area51

(11,895 posts)
58. wtaf?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:04 PM
Feb 2020

So I guess he'll not be driving on socialized roads, not be using our socialist police dept., not be calling our socialist fire dept. should he have a fire, not use a socialist library, not send any kids to socialist-paid for K-12 schools, not take Social Security bennies, and certainly refuse to use socialist Medicare.

0rganism

(23,923 posts)
63. unthinkable repulsive bullshit nonsense today, law of the land tomorrow
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:42 PM
Feb 2020

sand in the hourglass of the Old Republic is falling away quickly these days, and no one is adding any from the top

with apologies to all the optimists out there, things are about to get much much worse

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
66. I think he is confused. Jail and execution is the punishment for treason,
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:54 PM
Feb 2020

which every republican politician hanging on to the turd's legs, while kissing his ass, are ABUNDANTLY guilty of.

Supporting Putin, over our own intelligence agencies, in the destruction of this country IS treason. There is no gray area.

So when is he going to announce pushing for the elimination of social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, infrastructure funding, etc.

The deplorables can't accept their benefits fast enough, AND can't scream fast enough about SOCIALISM. The poor little babies don't get IRONY.

Bigly Sad.

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