Coronavirus Live Updates: Wuhan to Round Up the Infected for Mass Quarantine Camps

[Devil Child]

Source: New York Times

A senior Chinese official has ordered the authorities in the city of Wuhan to immediately round up all residents who have been infected with the coronavirus and place them in isolation, quarantine or designated hospitals.

Sun Chunlan, a vice premier tasked with leading the central government’s response to the outbreak that is centered in Wuhan, said city investigators should go to each home to check the temperatures of every resident and interview infected patients’ close contacts.

“Set up a 24-hour duty system. During these wartime conditions, there must be no deserters, or they will be nailed to the pillar of historical shame forever,” Ms. Sun said.

The city’s authorities have raced to meet these instructions by setting up makeshift mass quarantine shelters this week. The shelters are meant for coronavirus patients with milder symptoms, the government has said. But concerns are growing about whether the centers, which will house thousands of people in large spaces, will be able to provide even basic care to patients and protect against the risk of further infection.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html

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Another troublesome update coming out of China. Their criticism of the US's Chinese traveler restrictions looks quite hypocritical to me.

[irisblue]

1. Well, this is concerning.

[Devil Child]

4. Very. I have little trust in authorities saying they are on top of this.

[catsudon]

30. yes, quite

see this leaked video

[SunSeeker]

35. Holy shit. They're not providing medical treatment at the quarantine stations!

A LOT of people are going to die in China. This is horrible. People are just being locked up to die.

[The empressof all]

2. Centers are being set up in the US as well ...Here's the link to the one near Seattle

They are being set up to house those coming from the areas in China mostly infected, though I'm not really sure how the heck they will truly be able to accurately assess that. The article states that it will be used for those who are unable to quarantine themselves.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/coronavirus-quarantine-facility-to-be-located-in-north-bend/

[Devil Child]

3. Thanks for the article!

I suspect we are going to be seeing an increase in sites like this here and abroad.

[The empressof all]

6. I believe there are at least three sites being set up currently in the US

There are designated airports to receive travelers from this area. Seattle is one of them. I believe the other centers are being set up close to those cities as well.

[AtheistCrusader]

7. I live about 5 minutes from that.

My gut reaction is 'fine' but literally everyone I know is losing their shit about it.

[The empressof all]

11. I'm over on the Eastside, so I know exactly where this facility is.

I would be less concerned overall if Trump minions weren't running the show. Their propensity towards racial profiling and locking folks up has not been stellar...to say the least. There's going to need to be a great deal of ass covering for their CDC cuts which will surely be over reaction out of an "abundance of caution" excuse.

I wasn't alarmed at all at first but my spidey sense is telling me that this could possibly go down hill real quickly.

[AtheistCrusader]

13. Either way, the busses have to go through Seattle Metro, or if they used Camp Murray or Ft. Lewis

through Tacoma metro.

SeaTac is right in the damn middle of everything here.

[Warpy]

8. If this bug turns into a pandemic

This is what will have to be done to stop it.

[PatSeg]

5. That is really disturbing

Starting to feel like a pandemic disaster movie.

[Laffy Kat]

31. We have always been warned by the experts that it wasn't "if" but "when" the next..

Pandemic hits. With an estimated fifty-thousand new cases a day in China, this could certainly turn out to be the big one. I have to believe this virus is much more contagious than previously reported. Yikes.

[dewsgirl]

9. I saw something yesterday where if they are a suspected case,

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and elude authorities they will be subject to execution.

[The empressof all]

12. There is a lot of weird possibly misinformation coming out from China.

If you pay attention to some of the stuff coming out on tic toc it sounds extremely crazy...so I would take a lot of this with a great deal of salt. Clearly it's highly contagious but not necessarily a death sentence. It does have a higher death rate than the major flu epidemics in history but pneumonia can be quite serious especially in the elderly or immune compromised.

Practicing proper precautions is your best defense. Wash you hands. Try not to touch your mouth, nose, eyes and ears unless you wash your hands first. And if you are feeling sick, stay home, call your health care provider and take proper care of yourself.

My husband is flying next week and I did manage to snare a mask for him. He probably won't wear it...But it's there if he needs it.

[roamer65]

37. The flu epidemic of 1918-1920 had a higher death rate than this one.

Around 3-6 percent, I do believe.

https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu

Blue lips, blackened skin....the article describes the horrible symptoms of the infection.

[Skittles]

19. elude

[dewsgirl]

20. Thank you, Skittles.

[Skittles]

21. a couple of days ago I had to correct myself the other way around

I had used elude instead of allude

[dewsgirl]

22. LoL😂

[athenasatanjesus]

10. Great time for a Pandemic

When so many of the worlds leaders are authoritarians looking for an excuse to take away freedoms and throw people into cages anyways.

[dewsgirl]

23. This couldn't be happening at a worse time.

[Ferrets are Cool]

14. Please don't give the orange anus any ideas. nt

[KT2000]

16. Last night, the Daily Mail

had photos of the new "hospitals" China built in just days. There were rows and rows of beds filling thousands of square feet. There were no side table or nurses' stations, just rows and rows of beds, some were cots. These buildings are not real hospitals but as this article says, quarantine centers. I guess this is what an epidemic really looks like. It was taken down when I went back to send it to someone.

[cstanleytech]

25. No, this is more like what it looks like when they are trying to prevent it from

becoming one and to be honest I can understand the urgency they are feeling because they have 1.3 billion people in China and any major outbreaks be it this or even a really bad strain of the flu can potentially cause far more deaths due to the population density.

[roamer65]

36. Same as the flu epidemic of 1918-1920.

One will find row after row of beds in the old pictures of it.

[olddad65]

38. My dad's father died in the flu pandemic of 1918

He was 28, in the prime of his life. Got the symptoms one night and was dead by 4 the next afternoon. 3 days before my dad’s 4th birthday, and my grandmother was 8 and 1/2 months pregnant. My aunt was born 2 weeks after her father died. Tough times, woman didn’t work outside the house in those days. This took place in a small town in Northern California. 4 people in that town died that day. People were dropping like flies.

[roamer65]

43. Yes. It was a nasty virus.

My mom passed last year. We visit her grave often. She is in the older part of the cemetery. The amount of graves from 1918-1920 is very noticeable.

[Ghost Dog]

44. Those photos aren't of the new hospitals,

but of conference centers, sports halls etc. that are being used for quarantine.

The Daily Heil, as we call it, is racist British Nationalist, sensationalist and usually unreliable.

[KT2000]

52. thank you!

[Ghost Dog]

53. You're welcome!

In the name of (sought after) truth

[The_jackalope]

17. The infection rate still tracks a second-order polynomial

From Jan 21 to today, the infection data in Excel fits a second-order polynomial curve with an R-squared of 0.9996 - i.e. with 99.96% accuracy. The equation I got is (y = 132.41x^2 - 430.8x + 867.28). The first term - 132.41x^2 - determines the shape of the curve.

The projection of the curve into the near future has been showing the same thing for 5 days: if the spread stays on this curve there will be ~80,000 infections by Feb. 15, 9 days from now.

It's no wonder the Chinese authorities are getting stern about this. I hope their draconian intervention interrupts the curve.

[drray23]

26. Interesting. Is there a place somewhere with the data

Fir the infections over time ?

[The_jackalope]

28. I use this site

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If you hover your mouse over each day of the graph of "Total Cases" it will pop up the number in a window.

[nitpicker]

40. I don't know the true case load in China

A couple of days ago, I was calculating roughly 80,000 cases by 15 Feb myself.

The last couple of days, the reported number of new cases was diminishing day after day.

BUT this could be reporting designed to mask the true state of affairs.

[The_jackalope]

41. I think there's some serious under-reporting too.

This has been a difficult lesson in transparency for the Chinese, and they may be fencing in the reporting now they they see how bad it is.

Their new quarantine camps are going to restrict the data as well.

[Ghost Dog]

45. Thanks for that. And these are just the tested and confirmed

cases...

[Evolve Dammit]

18. I don't trust our "authorities" either under this Admin. We are on our own. Katrina showed us that.

The career scientists and physicians have been muzzled. What the GOP fails to grasp, is that they live in the same country/world, and to ignore the career professionals is true insanity.

[bluecoat_fan]

24. Lots of Vitamin C now, get immune system strong now...

Keep an eye on the quarantined cruise ships as a bellwether. China can't hide videos of tourists being offloaded...

[cstanleytech]

27. Hate to bust your bubble but dosing yourself with massive vitamin c will do little to

really help.
Well other than draining your wallet and provide a false of comfort.

[Laffy Kat]

32. True. We pee most of it right back out.

Our body cannot store Vit. C.

[bluecoat_fan]

42. Vitamin C boosts your immune system, the only defense.

There is plenty of evidence Vitamin C boosts the immune system. You can get plenty vitiman C in food, so you don't need supplements if that is what you meant.

[cstanleytech]

48. According to the latest science it's only a very minor boost.

Your better off practicing good hygiene like washing your hands a few times a day and not touching your face.

[LanternWaste]

49. The one does not deny the other...

But at least we're getting away from last week's "this is minor... you're all over-reacting!" meme. Gotta admit though, it was damned bemusing to watch that particular goalpost move in real time.

[thecrow]

56. I got my pneumonia shot yesterday.

Today I read that a ship with the corona virus on board docked in Bayonne, NJ.
That with the three cruise ships circling Japan reminds me of the “pox” ships anchored in the harbors of our country in the 1700s.
The shot might help me not get the pneumonia that people develop from this virus.
My grandmother lived in Pottsville, PA and told me stories of how there were not enough gravediggers or coffins so the dead were piled up in mass graves. Horrible things happened in 1918!
I dread to think how King Orange would manage such a pandemic.

[woundedkarma]

29. moderately terrifying

One of the drs who tried to warn people about it is dead. The guy was only 34 years old. It's clear China won't tell us the true numbers. They're locking down people. This is getting scary.

On a tinfoil hat sidenote... this is some crazy eerie timing.

How soon before marshal law is declared here because of this disease that we don't really have a cdc left to fight?

[SunSeeker]

34. Marshall law is already basically in place. People are forced to stay home and can't travel.

The whole population of Wuhan is in essence on house arrest.

[Ghost Dog]

46. It's martial law, meaning absolute military power is used.

The government declares a state of emergency which suspends the Constitution and all normal laws, normal elections and other democratic institutions and imposes, briefly should be the case, as long as the emergency persists, a military dictatorship.

[SunSeeker]

33. Well, I guess they figure roundups are one thing they're good at.

Protecting their people by listening to whistleblowers before the virus explodes? Not so much.

And Trump is following right in China's footsteps.

[olddad65]

39. If I understand what I have read and heard..

The incubation period is two weeks. So how can they roundup people who are infected, but with no symptoms.

[Delphinus]

47. Wow!

they will be nailed to the pillar of historical shame forever

Holy crap!

[Recursion]

50. This is a little too Captain Trips for me (nt)

[roamer65]

54. I nickname it Captain Tripps, but it is nowhere near it.

The death rate so far is running below the rate of the 1918-1920 flu pandemic, and it is not spreading as fast as that flu virus.

[Devil Child]

55. I've been debating pulling that off the shelf and giving it another read for the past year

Now with all these coronavirus developments I think I’ll choose a different book!

[underpants]

51. Good. Interesting read here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016247167