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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:23 AM Feb 2020

John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump

Source: The Atlantic

MORRISTOWN, N.J.—Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council aide and impeachment witness President Donald Trump fired Friday, was just doing his job, former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told students and guests at a Drew University event here Wednesday night.

Over a 75-minute speech and Q&A session, Kelly laid out, in the clearest terms yet, his misgivings about Trump’s words and actions regarding North Korea, illegal immigration, military discipline, Ukraine, and the news media.

Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, said that Vindman is blameless and was simply following the training he’d received as a soldier; migrants are “overwhelmingly good people” and “not all rapists”; and Trump’s decision to condition military aid to Ukraine on an investigation into his political rival Joe Biden upended long-standing U.S. policy.

Vindman was rightly disturbed by Trump’s phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in July, Kelly suggested: Having seen something “questionable,” Vindman properly notified his superiors, Kelly said. Vindman, who specialized in Ukraine policy at the National Security Council at the time, was among multiple U.S. officials who listened in on the call. When subpoenaed by Congress in the House impeachment hearings, Vindman complied and told the truth, Kelly said.

Read more: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/john-kelly-alexander-vindman-north-korea-and-trump/606496/

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John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Oh ffs Ohiogal Feb 2020 #1
Seriously! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #3
Really! B Stieg Feb 2020 #12
Shove it in their faces when they are young and impressionable... Maxheader Feb 2020 #2
Now that drumpf has established that he is above the law and no sense of decency is required, democratisphere Feb 2020 #4
Talk is cheap IronLionZion Feb 2020 #5
Well John if I can call you John, your really are a jerk...................you should have demanded turbinetree Feb 2020 #6
In my opinion too Perseus Feb 2020 #7
Perfect nailed it right on the head...............a general but a coward................. turbinetree Feb 2020 #9
As a former Marine I can say his silence when he NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #10
🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣 Never trust a Republican.nt live love laugh Feb 2020 #8
yawn Kurt V. Feb 2020 #11
And someone just told him about Kelly. 11am, US eastern irisblue Feb 2020 #13
Kelly would have better served the nation if he had done this a long, long time ago. Nitram Feb 2020 #14
Welcome him Nasruddin Feb 2020 #15
Too little too late. SamKnause Feb 2020 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #17
I appreciate anyone who stillcool Feb 2020 #18

Maxheader

(4,372 posts)
2. Shove it in their faces when they are young and impressionable...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:05 AM
Feb 2020

I suspect most of them have formed an opinion of stumpy and its band of merry traitors and thieves....

But coming from a warrior..thats seen alot and been around...
Maybe a rebel will be born..another aoc that gets out there with knowledge..and anger..

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
4. Now that drumpf has established that he is above the law and no sense of decency is required,
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:15 AM
Feb 2020

drumpf supporters and tools will now attempt to save their former good names and salvage what is left of their shambles of a reputation. F'em all!

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. Well John if I can call you John, your really are a jerk...................you should have demanded
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:49 AM
Feb 2020

to testify at the senate hearing and the house for that matter.....................but nope you waited after the fact.....................hell write a book and go on tour with that other self serving jerk by the name of Bolton, and then have Susan Collins, Liza Murkowski, Cory Gardner, McSally, Tillis, and all of the republicans in the senate can put foreword notes of BS in there and then you can write a dedication too all of them for being true Americans dedicated to country and service..................................give me a break.................you failed even after you left to defend and protect the country and the constitution.....................in my opinion................

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
10. As a former Marine I can say his silence when he
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:32 AM
Feb 2020

SAW and HEARD wrongdoing make him a disgrace to the uniform.

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
13. And someone just told him about Kelly. 11am, US eastern
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:15 PM
Feb 2020

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted:
....which he actually has a military and legal obligation to do. His incredible wife, Karen, who I have a lot of respect for, once pulled me aside & said strongly that “John respects you greatly. When we are no longer here, he will only speak well of you.” Wrong!


Nasruddin

(752 posts)
15. Welcome him
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

I have some of the same negative thoughts as many of you, & perhaps worse ones.

Nevertheless, this is a significant flip. This guy was head of DHS & COS for about 2 years' worth of this regime.
Imagine what details about Trump and family bad actions he may know. Consider that he might bring along some of his proteges who may have more to offer. Maybe a few others might be emboldened by his example if he's treated reasonably well.

It's never too late for someone to come to their senses.

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