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ingac70

(7,947 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:06 PM Jan 2012

Army brigades to leave Europe

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/army-brigades-to-leave-europe/2012/01/12/gIQArZqluP_story.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost

FORT BLISS, Texas – The Obama administration has decided to remove two of the four U.S. Army brigades remaining in Europe as part of a broader cost-saving effort to cut $487 billion from the Pentagon’s budget over the next decade, said senior U.S. officials.

The reductions in U.S. Army forces, which have not been formally announced, are likely to concern European officials, who worry that the smaller American presence reflects a lessening of interest in the decades-long U.S. partnership with NATO allies in Europe.

Top Pentagon officials have sought to allay those concerns by telling their NATO allies in private meetings that the U.S. will continue to rotate Army units through Europe on training missions to augment the presence provided by the remaining two brigades.

“In the briefing we’ve been giving the Europeans, we have made clear that there is going to be this rotational presence there that will be conducting exercises,” Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta said in an interview.
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Army brigades to leave Europe (Original Post) ingac70 Jan 2012 OP
Wow, you mean sixty years after WW2 malthaussen Jan 2012 #1
The British Empire and now the American Empire lovuian Jan 2012 #10
Which countries is the US Army occupying? Renew Deal Jan 2012 #15
excellent decision frylock Jan 2012 #2
great! put em to work rebuilding infrastructure in the USA - unless they are no longer being paid nt msongs Jan 2012 #3
There will likely be a drawdown absent billets for those people. They won't be put on "make work" MADem Jan 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #23
"...likely to concern European officials..." PavePusher Jan 2012 #4
Don't believe what the US media is telling you. harmonicon Jan 2012 #7
+1 nt stillwaiting Jan 2012 #34
"...likely to concern European officials..." DJ13 Jan 2012 #9
That is it, actually... ingac70 Jan 2012 #11
Especially now. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #18
Big deal DURHAM D Jan 2012 #5
And putting them where? Deep13 Jan 2012 #6
Actually, it is to save money. ingac70 Jan 2012 #8
Well, that's good. nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #12
After they're demobbed, the unemployment line--unless the economy perks up. nt MADem Jan 2012 #20
Maybe Fort Bliss? Where those soldiers and their families could support jobs in Texas? jpak Jan 2012 #28
Maybe, but the trend is to shift resources to contain China. nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #31
You contain China by staying out of Walmart and buying American jpak Jan 2012 #33
Yes, but the US government does it with soldiers and aircraft carriers. nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #35
Wow. Very cool. RIF in Europe? Yay! nt babylonsister Jan 2012 #13
We have 18 bases and 50,000 troops in Germany stufl Jan 2012 #14
Freeper heads explode what about the "communists" ? Historic NY Jan 2012 #16
Yeah, how many European military bases are there in the USA? NBachers Jan 2012 #17
The Germans have one out at Dulles Airport. nt MADem Jan 2012 #21
If you read the article..... ingac70 Jan 2012 #24
A move in the right direction.. DCBob Jan 2012 #22
About time. jwirr Jan 2012 #25
Am I reading this right?? Lost-in-FL Jan 2012 #26
The Soviet Union will have expanded to Iceland by midnight Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #27
They are swarming through the Fulda Gap as I type this jpak Jan 2012 #29
Unfortunately, they're being shifted from Europe to the Asia-Pacific & Middle East region The Northerner Jan 2012 #30
It's about time Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #32

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. There will likely be a drawdown absent billets for those people. They won't be put on "make work"
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 05:51 AM
Jan 2012

tasks -- the unions might have a problem if that was even attempted.

Response to msongs (Reply #3)

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
4. "...likely to concern European officials..."
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:22 PM
Jan 2012

So defend your damn selves, or pay all our costs, you free-loading hypocrites.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
7. Don't believe what the US media is telling you.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jan 2012

The Europeans won't mind US forces leaving their countries in the slightest. Defend themselves? From what?

ingac70

(7,947 posts)
11. That is it, actually...
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jan 2012

they want those posts for the same reason towns and cities here want 'em. Local economies.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
18. Especially now.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:17 AM
Jan 2012

The European economy is on the rim of the toilet and they are deathly afraid that this withdrawal will cause them economic harm.

DURHAM D

(32,995 posts)
5. Big deal
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

Currently we have 80K in Europe. We will reduce the force to 70K or 65K. Why not more out? I doubt the NATO allies really care.







stufl

(96 posts)
14. We have 18 bases and 50,000 troops in Germany
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:20 PM
Jan 2012

Given that we defeated them 67 years ago, I think the reduction in forces can be justified.

Good GO, Obama. Why did it take 4 years?

NBachers

(19,288 posts)
17. Yeah, how many European military bases are there in the USA?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:58 AM
Jan 2012

Unfortunately, I'm afraid they're working on nefarious "repurposing" policies for the troops here in the good ol' USA.

ingac70

(7,947 posts)
24. If you read the article.....
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 09:47 AM
Jan 2012

you will see there is a plan for an actual reduction of numbers of troops in the military all together.

No, they aren't coming to get you.

The Northerner

(5,040 posts)
30. Unfortunately, they're being shifted from Europe to the Asia-Pacific & Middle East region
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jan 2012
The reductions are part of a Pentagon plan to shrink the Army from its current 560,000 soldiers to about 490,000, defense officials said. The cuts are being driven by a new defense strategy that calls for smaller, faster and more agile forces and a shift in focus toward the Asia-Pacific region, where China has been investing in submarines, fighter jets and precision-guided missiles.
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