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Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 04:47 PM Mar 2020

Judge orders Hillary Clinton deposition in email flap

Source: POLITICO

A federal judge has ordered former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to sit for a sworn deposition for the first time in connection with her use of a private email account during her State Department tenure.

U.S. District Court Royce Lamberth issued the order Monday in connection with a five-and-a-half-year-old Freedom of Information Act lawsuit the conservative group Judicial Watch filed seeking emails related to the deadly 2012 attack on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya.

Clinton was previously required to submit a sworn written statement about her email use, but the deposition—if it takes place—would be the first time she has had to submit to live questioning under oath on the subject.

During her four years in President Barack Obama's Cabinet, Clinton relied on a private email account and server for both her work-related and personal messages. The practice led to a storm of controversy that roiled her 2016 presidential bid and is widely viewed as contributing to her ultimate defeat by Donald Trump.

In response to press questions during the campaign and in the sworn statement, Clinton said she kept the private account and server after taking over as secretary of state in 2009 as a matter of convenience and not to avoid FOIA or other disclosure requirements. The FBI investigated, interviewed Clinton and recommended against criminal charges, but it did find dozens of messages in her account that officials said contained highly classified information.

However, Lamberth said in his ruling Monday that the FBI probe and representations by the State Department have not adequately put to rest questions about the episode and Clinton's deposition is needed to address those concerns.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/02/hillary-clinton-email-deposition-118800



Seriously? but, but... Her e-mails? STILL?
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Judge orders Hillary Clinton deposition in email flap (Original Post) Mountain Mule Mar 2020 OP
Butter emails underpants Mar 2020 #1
Buttery males? dchill Mar 2020 #47
The Magats will be touching themselves tonight. Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #2
Oh, for the love of gawd! Bayard Mar 2020 #3
Is there standing for this? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #4
That judge obviously thought so FBaggins Mar 2020 #32
That poor woman................. DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #5
Does this mean Nikki28 Mar 2020 #6
wow. I am stunned. stillcool Mar 2020 #7
clearly political azureblue Mar 2020 #36
AMAZING the abuse you can cause people if you have a BARR AG!!! bluestarone Mar 2020 #8
Hasn't the dead horse been beaten enough? sakabatou Mar 2020 #9
Coming soon to a deposition near you Rural_Progressive Mar 2020 #10
Flick Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #18
Love it! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #29
Oh good grief. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2020 #11
ITs the Judicial Jerk asshole. Historic NY Mar 2020 #12
She doesn't have to obey the all of this, since this is the new norm MagickMuffin Mar 2020 #13
Exactly. The rules have changed. not_the_one Mar 2020 #46
Could this ruling then be used against Ivanka and others of her ilk to answer for private alwaysinasnit Mar 2020 #14
Make it so. Rub the Con-RepubliCon noses in it. And then convict Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #19
+1000 alwaysinasnit Mar 2020 #25
yes it can azureblue Mar 2020 #38
Silly, don't you know only Democrats have to obey subpoenas? maxrandb Mar 2020 #54
Oops! My bad. alwaysinasnit Mar 2020 #60
Let the Republicons ensure that tRump gets more votes than Clinton in this election. Finally. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #15
He joined the court in 1987 after being nominated by President Ronald Reagan, figures. nt hellno45 Mar 2020 #16
Can't she tell them to just fuck off? That's what Pussy-Grabber & Company do. . . BigDemVoter Mar 2020 #17
Dems need a Judical Watch type like the Repugs have. They are relentless and well funded it seems. riversedge Mar 2020 #33
In won't work as long as Democrats nominate judges who respect the rule of law. maxrandb Mar 2020 #55
No problem just do as the repubs do....keep repeating "I do not recall" Submariner Mar 2020 #20
So, it begins....trump putting his political rivals on trial. So, disgusting. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #21
This is actually kind of terrifying for a couple of reasons. StevieM Mar 2020 #22
They had 9 Bengazi investigations. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #23
Can someone now use FOIA for Jared and Ivanka emails? question everything Mar 2020 #24
Time to gin up the "but her emails"machine. bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #26
Royce Lamberth is a GOP operative and has proved it for 3 decades. blm Mar 2020 #27
This DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #44
He is a fascist. StevieM Mar 2020 #45
This one really made me feel insane Lulu KC Mar 2020 #28
If McGhan doesn't have to testify, why should Hillary? nt Jarqui Mar 2020 #30
This! Ilsa Mar 2020 #56
Sick f**kers... dajoki Mar 2020 #31
they are simply trying to rally their troops DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #43
Unreal. She should answer every question "I don't remember". Mosby Mar 2020 #34
Agreed! Rebl2 Mar 2020 #40
They just can't leave this woman alone. Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #35
Judge Lambert is a senior status judge appointed by Raygun. TomSlick Mar 2020 #37
I hope we're still investigating the trumps' corrupt activites 3 years after he's out of office flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #39
Wow, how low can they go.... FM123 Mar 2020 #41
Here we go karin_sj Mar 2020 #42
I have no doubt justgamma Mar 2020 #48
10 - 15 years from now, agincourt Mar 2020 #49
They are fixated on Hillary nt Mountain Mule Mar 2020 #50
Judge was dug out of semi-retirement for just this occasion? steventh Mar 2020 #51
This judge seems to have a special interest in the Clintons VMA131Marine Mar 2020 #52
It seems the judge is corrupt. rockfordfile Mar 2020 #53
She sat, under oath, for hours and hours, Ilsa Mar 2020 #57
She should tell them to pound sand. nt Hotler Mar 2020 #58
Royce Lamberth has been enabling Judicial Watch to go after the Clintons for years. yellowcanine Mar 2020 #59

FBaggins

(26,694 posts)
32. That judge obviously thought so
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:23 PM
Mar 2020

I think this case has been lingering for a few years now - so they're well past the "does Judicial Watch have the standing to sue?" phase.

She could appeal to the DC circuit.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
5. That poor woman.................
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 04:52 PM
Mar 2020

No one should have rumored that she may come in as a last minute Democrat Presidential Candidate.........

Besides this serves no other purpose than to continue to gin up the TrumpHumpers and rally them around the Republican Party.....

Nikki28

(557 posts)
6. Does this mean
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020

The Dumpsters judges and (A.J Barr needs soap) courts are still beating this dead horse? This makes no sense except to confirm Trump needs to go asap.
The real crooks get off scoot free and they taunt Rumps targets. What a disgusting thing for this country.I wish the majority vote for Biden and Iran helps him flip the Senate just when Putin does his best shot.

azureblue

(2,131 posts)
36. clearly political
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

all questions have been answered. JW is using the courts for political purposes, not to seek justice. This is vexatious litigation, and this is the grounds HC has to appeal on. She is now a private person. She can now turn around and sue them, and get a pre trial discovery. Which would expose the fact that JW is a wing of the GOP.

bluestarone

(16,720 posts)
8. AMAZING the abuse you can cause people if you have a BARR AG!!!
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:00 PM
Mar 2020

WE cannot get a subpoena answered. BUT these fuckers can destroy HONEST PEOPLE'S lives!!

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
10. Coming soon to a deposition near you
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:02 PM
Mar 2020

Say it all together:

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi

I knew you could.

Here's a surprise, he's a Ronnie Raygun appointee

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
46. Exactly. The rules have changed.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:36 PM
Mar 2020

No one has to respond to ANY court order.

She should make them try to force her. And STILL refuse.

If played appropriately, the optics would be through the roof.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,785 posts)
19. Make it so. Rub the Con-RepubliCon noses in it. And then convict
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:20 PM
Mar 2020

... because, after all, they had the example of Hillary to know what to avoid, right? So any breaking of the law in this regard by the Cons and the RepubliCons is willful and deliberate.

maxrandb

(15,188 posts)
54. Silly, don't you know only Democrats have to obey subpoenas?
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 08:42 AM
Mar 2020

Retrumplicans refusing subpoenas is always portrayed by the MSM as "just a different kind of politician"

maxrandb

(15,188 posts)
55. In won't work as long as Democrats nominate judges who respect the rule of law.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 08:55 AM
Mar 2020

We've spent generations defending and supporting the independence of the judicial branch.

Retrumplicans have spent generations turning the court into just one more branch of government that should be a weapon of partisan power.

It wouldn't matter to have a Left Judicial Watch, because this judge would look at two identical cases and order a deposition for Democrats, and dismiss a request for deposition from a Retrumplican.

And you know what? The Retrumplicans aren't even bothering to try to hide it anymore.

The Retrumplicans and their MAGAt voters would cheer making being a Democrat a criminal act!.

They are so far up to their eyeballs in illegal and corrupt crap that they will kill people in the streets to prevent their crimes from seeing the light of day.

Mark my words. Using the "courts" and foreign governments to pursue criminal investigations of their political enemies is JUST THE START.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
22. This is actually kind of terrifying for a couple of reasons.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:30 PM
Mar 2020

First, Royce Lamberth is long time partisan Republican activist. He has long used his position to help Republican politicians and to hurt Democrats.

Second, it is absurd that a right wing organization like Judicial Watch could be given standing in this matter, much less the right to depose a former Secretary of State.

Royce Lamberth, like William Barr, is properly identified as a fascist.

I hope this decision can be appealed. It is an absurd legal ruling.

blm

(112,919 posts)
27. Royce Lamberth is a GOP operative and has proved it for 3 decades.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:00 PM
Mar 2020

He is no judge, and certainly NOT an honorable judge.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
45. He is a fascist.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020

If this country succumbs to fascism, right wing judges will likely be a major part of it.

It is terrifying that we live in a country that has men like David Sentelle and Royce Lamberth on the bench.

dajoki

(10,678 posts)
31. Sick f**kers...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:20 PM
Mar 2020

more distraction and pure hate, they will never give up. Illegitimate is the one who needs to testify under oath but we know he never will. What a sad state of affairs.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
43. they are simply trying to rally their troops
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

Now it is Gays, Guns, God, AND.....Hillary emails......................

they have used it for years, decades, over and over again to get their voters to turn out...........

Joinfortmill

(14,235 posts)
35. They just can't leave this woman alone.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:37 PM
Mar 2020

I don't know how these cowardly bullies look their wives and daughters in the face. Horrifying.

TomSlick

(11,032 posts)
37. Judge Lambert is a senior status judge appointed by Raygun.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

Senior status means he is semi-retired. Appointment by Raygun means - well, you know what it means.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
39. I hope we're still investigating the trumps' corrupt activites 3 years after he's out of office
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:43 PM
Mar 2020

oh who am I kidding, it will take beyond any of our natural lives to get to the bottom of at rats nest

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
49. 10 - 15 years from now,
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 12:12 AM
Mar 2020

the GOP will be trying to haul her in for questioning about Benghazi and the email server. It will never, never end.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
51. Judge was dug out of semi-retirement for just this occasion?
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 12:47 AM
Mar 2020

According to Wikipedia, J. Royce Lambeth is a "visiting judge in San Antonio for several months per year." I hope Secretary Clinton appeals. And if that doesn't get a good result, appeal again. Delay until after November. Which we all hope will change everything.

VMA131Marine

(4,123 posts)
52. This judge seems to have a special interest in the Clintons
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 12:52 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-may-27-mn-34684-story.html%3f_amp=true

WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court Friday rebuked a lower-court judge for declaring that President Clinton broke the law when he released friendly letters from former White House volunteer Kathleen Willey, who had gone on national television to accuse the president of making unwanted sexual advances.
The appellate judges said that an opinion by U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth in March was “inappropriate” and “gratuitous” and that he should not have invoked “sweeping pronouncements on alleged criminal activity” by Clinton and his aides.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
57. She sat, under oath, for hours and hours,
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 09:50 AM
Mar 2020

answering questions posed by Dowdy-hair Gowdy and others. Just submit the transcript.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
59. Royce Lamberth has been enabling Judicial Watch to go after the Clintons for years.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

And he nearly always gets overruled on appeal. Some things will never change.

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