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Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:33 PM

Hobby Lobby Founder Reportedly Told Employees A Message From God Informed His Decision to Leave Stor

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Source: Business Insider

Hobby Lobby, the craft store chain that is no stranger to controversy, is once again finding itself in hot water for allegedly citing a message from God in its decision to leave stores open amid the coronavirus outbreak.

Though more than 90 retailers in the US have temporarily shuttered in the past week in an effort to stem the spread of the coronavirus, Hobby Lobby has remained steadfast in staying open for business. On Saturday, digital strategist Kendall Brown tweeted a widely circulated photo of a note allegedly written by Hobby Lobby founder David Green, in which the openly conservative Christian businessman repeatedly mentions the power of God as part of his justification to leave stores open.

In the note to employees, Green reportedly wrote that the decision was informed by a message from God bestowed upon his wife Barbara Green, who he described as a "prayer warrior."

"In her quiet prayer time this past week, the Lord put on Barbara's heart three profound words to remind us that He's in control. Guide, Guard, and Groom," Green reportedly says in the letter. "We serve a God who will Guide us through this storm, who will Guard us as we travel to places never seen before, and who, as a result of this experience, will Groom us to be better than we could have ever thought possible before now."


Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/hobby-lobby-reportedly-leaving-stores-open-message-from-god-2020-3



So, the CEO's wife got a message from God and Hobby Lobby is staying open in defiance of the state of Ohio. Another "religious freedom" bullshit case for the SCOTUS coming up imo.

I e-mailed Hobby Lobby saying the CEO's wife was a liar. These Pharisees need to be exposed. The Christ said that the wealthy have their reward.

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Reply Hobby Lobby Founder Reportedly Told Employees A Message From God Informed His Decision to Leave Stor (Original post)
lonely bird Mar 2020 OP
RandySF Mar 2020 #1
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quakerboy Mar 2020 #55
customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #34
thucythucy Mar 2020 #45
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BrightKnight Mar 2020 #74
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Rebl2 Mar 2020 #20
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wnylib Mar 2020 #42
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Aquaria Mar 2020 #52
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captain queeg Mar 2020 #7
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DanieRains Mar 2020 #11
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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:35 PM

1. Lock them up.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:15 PM

23. Either they are criminally endangering their staff or they need to be locked in an asylum


I'm leaning to the latter. "Prayer Warrior" indeed



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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:54 AM

55. I dont see why It cant be both

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

34. The only people

who would go into a Hobby Lobby probably deserve what they have coming.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:20 AM

45. But what about the people who work there

and through no fault of their own have no other options?

And what about the friends, families, and even total strangers who might be infected by Hobby Lobby shoppers?

We're all swimming in the same pool. If any one of us pisses, we all have to deal with the result.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #45)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:37 AM

47. True

I just wanted another chance to express my frustration about that place.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:37 PM

2. She heard wrong.

The three words were, "died, hard, and doom."

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:38 PM

3. Prayer Warrior

Not scared

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:00 PM

74. Christians pray for their enemies.

There is no “warrior” in the God’s peace.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:38 PM

4. Maybe Rand Paul can have lunch (or a swim) with the owners. eom

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Response to IllinoisBirdWatcher (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:13 PM

20. Good idea

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:39 PM

5. So all of them and their stupid customers will get sick

because they don't follow common sense.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:11 AM

42. And spread it in the community.

If they want to endanger themselves, I don't care. But they do not have a legal right to endanger others.

The law is clear on this and has already been decided. Religious beliefs must take a back seat when health and safety are endangered. Jehovah's Witnesses do not permit blood transfusions. But in the case of minors, the law steps in to save the child's life because children cannot give consent to reject treatment.

In the case of covid 19, it jeopardizes the health and safety of people of all ages. Hobby Lobby does not have a leg to stand on.

I want to see the response of NY's Governor Cuomo and NY AG Letitia James if they try to pull this stunt in NY. I can just hear Cuomo saying that God told him to shut them down and prosecute.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #42)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:28 AM

46. They're doing it for their business, even if they say its for their beliefs.

There is no way real Christianity teaches people to endanger the lives of others.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #46)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:37 AM

48. I know it is business, not religion.

But they are making a mistake to hide behind phony religious claims on this because even if the belief in a message from God was real, it does not require a court decision to shut them down. Courts have alreafy ruled on this type of situation.

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Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:53 AM

61. I think you misunderstood what MTG was ...

... saying. No need to pick a fight there.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #46)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:02 AM

62. Exactly. One of their accountants ...

... showed them the numbers and they lost their shit. Pastor Green must have told Barb to go to prayer battle stations.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:11 AM

52. This is why shunning of all deplorables is necessary

 

They are a danger to themselves and to others.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:40 PM

6. When times get tough

People turn back to religion again. That would be a really sad result of this crisis, if we were to see a large wave of religion wash over the US, again. The nones and rational people have made much progress over the last few decades. Shame to see it washed away by fear.

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:47 AM

50. This is not a turn to religion. It's a business

decision masquerading as religion.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:43 PM

7. I don't know the Bible very well but don't remember anything saying you could do anything you feel

Like and be safe. Isn’t there a thing about give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s? Like obey the law?

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:57 AM

39. When the plagues hit Egypt and the first-born males died

the Hebrew slaves were told they had to stay inside their homes.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:43 PM

8. Ok then...stay open, but render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's

You stay open, and you are taxed at 100% of revenue to pay for healthcare for the workers' you are risking and to contribute to the public well being. Jesus would approve.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:45 PM

9. Shut them down, padlock the doors, end of story

Sick. Of. This. Shit.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:49 PM

10. No paid sick leave

Hobby Lobby does not give employees paid sick leave. Grifters with no morals.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:51 PM

11. Zero Ventilators For Hobby Lobby Shoppers

Fixed it.

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Response to DanieRains (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:54 PM

13. +100! n/t

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Response to DanieRains (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:18 PM

24. Yeah. Not sure I would take the next shawl or cap they knit for me.

Just sayin'

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:53 PM

12. national boycott!

What idiots would force their workers to face such a risk for nonessential business. She probably heard GREED!

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:54 PM

14. Christianity and the Bible honored, enhanced, exemplified, glorified and displayed by theft and frau

http://www.newsweek.com/hobby-lobby-iraq-antiquities-evangelicals-632434

Christianity and the Bible honored, enhanced, exemplified, glorified and displayed by theft and fraud by the Hobby Lobby Museum..

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:00 PM

15. I don't imagine Illinois gov Pritzker will be having any of that bull shit!!

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:08 PM

17. Exclusive photo of David Green's God:

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:51 AM

37. I was going to say she didn't hear the words guide, guard, and groom.

What she really heard was
GREED! GREED! GREED!

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:09 PM

18. So, is he gonna visit the stores

and mingle with the public and employees? Bet not.


Religion--humankind's worst idea.


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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:10 PM

19. God moonlights l as Hobby Lobbys CPA... who knew? nt

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:14 PM

21. He means "the Lord put on Barbara's heart three profound words: Money, Money, Money"



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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:15 PM

22. In the 14th Century, they tried praying away the Black Death

yersinia pestis didn't care about their prayers

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Response to DBoon (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:35 AM

32. In the 15th century, Pence tried to pray away AIDS in Indiana. Equally effective at zero. . . . nt

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:19 PM

25. Such bullshit

They didn't hear jack crap other than wanting two things: not to lose money, and to potentially have another splashy lawsuit they can file. Sick bastards

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:20 PM

26. I don't

think Michaels stores are closed totally. Think they have curb side pick up. I think they will have to close in my county in MO tomorrow evening though because there will be a shut down of non essential business. Don’t think craft stores are essential business.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:36 PM

28. Snake handling anyone?

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:57 PM

29. Don't think Michaels craft stores are closing either even after requests by workers Pls read link

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:11 AM

30. OMFG. Put that scumbag CEO in jail!!

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:17 AM

31. Any employees that catch it from another employee need to sue the shit out of the company.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

33. God culling the herd?

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

35. But....but ..but popsicle sticks are a necessity in time of a national emergency

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:49 AM

36. Bless them and save them. They need it.

Though I would be a customer for some of what they sell, repeat even, I have never ever darkened their door since they opened their store in my town. Nuff said. Except for: they made me sick then, and sicker now.
And it's not a virus. They're being pious based in ignorance and exclusion. Who needs that kind of sickness?

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:55 AM

38. I also received a message from God...

He told me that you need to pull your head out of your ass,
and that you left out the word Greed in your list.

(oh, and also that we need to get the band back together.)

This kind of "Christian" does not speak as a representative
of all Christians.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:59 AM

40. Love your neighbor and do not kill

...the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction. Just because David Green calls himself Christian doesn’t mean that he is.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:59 AM

41. The governor needs to send the state police to shut their stores down. n/t

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:11 AM

43. The added commentary is seriously misleading.

The statement by Hobby Lobby was made on March 19. The stay-at-home order was issued on March 22.

While Hobby Lobby may well defy the order when it takes effect at 11:59 on 3/23, this article isn't about Ohio, an isn't about defying an order to shut down. It's merely about being stupid.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #43)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:41 PM

68. I will agree.

That being said I did not hear of Green’s response until after DeWine’s order.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:16 AM

44. this will give me something to do tomorrow

illinois closed down all non essential stores and businesses

so i'll see if this fucking store is still open. and report their asses

here's their deal about corona on their website
https://newsroom.hobbylobby.com/notice-regarding-covid-19-virus/

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:38 AM

49. More like the message was from his broker.

Greedy eff.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:09 AM

51. Does anyone but traitors shop there?

 

I'd rather order online than give those treasonous hatemongers one fricking penny.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:12 AM

53. They would be fined

Every day they defy .

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:00 AM

56. How about

Let them stay open. And every employee or shopper who gets Covid gets to join a class action lawsuit. I think the full ownership of Hobby Lobby as well as the personal fortunes of the person who made this decision ought to be about the right settlement of that lawsuit.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:09 AM

57. Hell, they've opened at least four new stores in March....

in Ohio, Texas, Maine and Illinois.

I'm assuming they feel obligated to remain open to sell necessities during this emergency.....

materials to make funeral wreaths.......

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:15 AM

58. I think I will go into Hobby Lobby

And tell them I can’t get supplies from my regular store- may I please get:

1. Some eye of newt
2. Some toadstools
3. A mixing cauldron of about 1 Qt size
4. An appropriate frame to hang the caudron.

Then I’ll walk around and pick out just the right other items to toss in a good Wutxges brew. Hehehehe!

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:49 AM

59. Makes me wish Hell was real

 

As their ticket would already be punched!

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Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:51 AM

60. Any state depatment of Health can close stores down, thats is what is needed to done

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:37 AM

63. That guy is real dumb and greedy and not much of a Christian

He could have been a good christian and offered his services and supplies to help his fellow human beings. Dude has access to a whole lotta cloth and thread and hand tools and on and on.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:48 AM

64. Fine them into oblivion.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:53 AM

65. What will Ohio R Gov do? NOTHING!

Fucking repugs are so freaking scared of these evangelicals, all of them make me sick and are now making the people of OH more sick on purpose for profits. They use God as a money tool and are sickening assholes. I can't wait for karma to get them.

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Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:24 AM

66. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:38 PM

67. words fail me

I'll just bet the CEO is self- isolating with a private physician on call - no doubt all family tested along with household servants. - have never gone into a HL and will tell friends and fam never to go. Please ask your contacts to do likewise.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:49 PM

69. Need a corona virus detector go to that store

All chinese products spreading the virus all over!! CLOSE THEM DOWN!!!!

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Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:55 PM

70. The Lord, God; Mammon.

The Lord, God; Mammon.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:27 PM

71. Religious insanity strikes again.

These people are criminals. I'm not religious, but Jesus said, "If you would be perfect you would sell all that you own and give the money to the poor." I don't know any christian who even comes close.

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Response to lonely bird (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:31 PM

72. This is the so called..

"man of God"...that condemns abortions and then it was discovered he has stock in corps that produce different types of birth control.

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