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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:36 PM Mar 2020

Trump Says Coronavirus Cure Cannot 'Be Worse Than the Problem Itself'

Source: New York Times

President Trump on Sunday night said that the government would reassess the recommended period for keeping businesses shut and millions of workers at home after this week, amid millions of job losses caused by the efforts to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus.

"WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF," Mr. Trump tweeted in all capital letters shortly before midnight. "AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!"

Officials have said that the initial 15-day period for social distancing -- limiting close contact between people by banning gatherings, closing schools and offices, encouraging remote work and urging people to maintain a six-foot distance from one another -- is vital to slowing the spread of the virus, for which more than 30,000 people in the United States have tested positive. The 15-day period would end Monday.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, an infectious diseases expert and a member of the White House coronavirus task force, has said in interviews that he believed that it would take several more weeks until people can start going about their lives in a more normal fashion. Other infectious disease experts suggest even harsher measures than social distancing are required to truly beat back the outbreaks in the United States.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-restrictions.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage



My translation of this is that the virus has propagated beyond our capability to isolate it's further spread. To contain the virus by social isolation would probably mean shutting down the country, and that means virtually the entire economy, for 4 to 6 months.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo alluded to this in his news conference today when he discussed that as we move forward the healthy, younger and more resistant part of our population must return to work soon as the more vulnerable continue to socially isolate. But since no resistance or isolation is 100%, a surge in infections will probably be expected in both groups.

That means, I believe, that a fairly quick and devastating surge in the critically ill is to be expected.

To his immense credit, Gov. Cuomo is taking urgent concrete steps to prepare for this surge and plans to double both the number of hospital beds and ICU beds as quickly as possible.

Trump meanwhile continues to be both inept and, even worse, counter productive, during this crisis.

The deaths of literally millions of people will be on Trump's hands.

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Trump Says Coronavirus Cure Cannot 'Be Worse Than the Problem Itself' (Original Post) bluewater Mar 2020 OP
what if catsudon Mar 2020 #1
GOP you remove him now please before he kills MILLIONS Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #2
Sadly, I believe it's too late. bluewater Mar 2020 #6
And the GOP, they could remove him and the other idiot in one day...could have done it months ago Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #16
I agree Mr. Trump, which is why you should resign immediately still_one Mar 2020 #3
+1000 bluewater Mar 2020 #5
You're right asshole. You're the frigging KPN Mar 2020 #4
Isn't 'death' the ultimate problem? mzmolly Mar 2020 #7
Lengthen the waves bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #8
He got this idiotic thought from watching Fox Not-News SBoy Mar 2020 #9
he honestly believes that if he ups his lying game, it will make the virus go away.. Javaman Mar 2020 #10
I think he doesn't care that millions will now die. bluewater Mar 2020 #12
completely agree. Javaman Mar 2020 #17
If he doesn't do anything, he can blame anyone who does something that doesn't work perfectly. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #33
Playing a doctor on TV Corgigal Mar 2020 #11
He clearly cares more for his investor frriends randr Mar 2020 #13
He Has No Investor Friends ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #34
We can't isolate the spread, we can only hope to slow it uppityperson Mar 2020 #14
I read this as they plan to take the brakes off and let the spread happen. bluewater Mar 2020 #18
I think trump wants to just let it go, not try to slow spread, resulting in uppityperson Mar 2020 #29
The problem itself is death you moron. AllyCat Mar 2020 #15
translation: "thousands must die so my stockmarket looks good" DBoon Mar 2020 #19
make that "millions must die so my stockmarket looks good" bluewater Mar 2020 #21
Putin must have called him yesterday. LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #20
This will eventually destroy Russia too. We are already hearing accounts that the true scope of the totodeinhere Mar 2020 #23
I am afraid that this pandemic will get worse fast and any talk of the cure being worse than the totodeinhere Mar 2020 #22
Trump is thinking... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #24
#25AmendmentTime Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #25
The "cure" businesses losing money in his tiny brain, I suspect (n/t) forgotmylogin Mar 2020 #26
Mass murder, Genocide, any doubts? gordianot Mar 2020 #27
I think Putin is the head writer on this daily reality shitshow. dchill Mar 2020 #28
Only a stable genius could make such a brilliant assertion! Yeehah Mar 2020 #30
This is a wacko Fox talking point. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #31
I was expecting this. This is the conditioning for normalizing many unnecessary deaths PSPS Mar 2020 #32
If you ask the 1% that question Kaiserguy Mar 2020 #35
What is worse than death? McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #36
He's bored, MurrayDelph Mar 2020 #37
So, Remove Restrictions and Let God Sort It Out? TomCADem Mar 2020 #38

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
6. Sadly, I believe it's too late.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
Mar 2020

I read this as "millions will die". Nothing short of crashing the economy and locking everyone in their homes would be able to prevent this now.

These deaths will be directly on Trump's hands.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,124 posts)
16. And the GOP, they could remove him and the other idiot in one day...could have done it months ago
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

Many rump supporters will die from this and even with their last breath they will express loyalty and admiration for him.

Wow

KPN

(15,662 posts)
4. You're right asshole. You're the frigging
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020

problem, so let’s just get your sorry ass out of the WH pronto and that would be the cure (the asshole should resign or be removed via Article 25 to cure the problem).

 

SBoy

(92 posts)
9. He got this idiotic thought from watching Fox Not-News
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:48 PM
Mar 2020

/https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-steve-hilton-coronavirus_n_5e782792c5b62f90bc4d19cf

Fox News host Steve Hilton blasted “our ruling class and their TV mouthpieces whipping up fear” over the coronavirus outbreak on Sunday and warned that a recession due to shutdowns could be deadly.

Donald Trump seemed to be watching. Soon after the segment aired, the president fired off an all-caps tweet repeating some of Hilton’s talking points.

Hilton played a clip of Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, saying he was fine if people think the response to the virus was an overreaction.

“Well, that’s easy for him to say,” Hilton said. “He’ll still have a job at the end of this, whatever happens.”

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
10. he honestly believes that if he ups his lying game, it will make the virus go away..
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:48 PM
Mar 2020

the bigger the lie the quicker it will go away.

reminds you of something doesn't it?

something along the lines of "our thoughts and prayers are for the shooting victims"

just shallow bullshit rebranded by the repukes.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
12. I think he doesn't care that millions will now die.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

He'll blame someone else for that, he's already trying to off load responsibility on to the states.

33. If he doesn't do anything, he can blame anyone who does something that doesn't work perfectly.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:35 PM
Mar 2020

If it works, he'll immediately claim sole credit for it.

What a small, predictable little man.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
11. Playing a doctor on TV
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:49 PM
Mar 2020

again. Plus, he’s up in age too, so he’s putting all his friends at risk.

Again, trying to sell BS.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
14. We can't isolate the spread, we can only hope to slow it
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

That is the goal and anything we can do now will help in 2 weeks.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
18. I read this as they plan to take the brakes off and let the spread happen.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

It's going to be unstoppable and devastating to millions of people.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
29. I think trump wants to just let it go, not try to slow spread, resulting in
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

millions of deaths. "Better than a recession". Grrrrr.


Most people will get the virus at some time. Overloading healthcare system sucks not only for those acutely ill from covid-19 but other things. 70 yr old with appendicitis? Not enough staff or resources to deal with you. For example.

Good thing governors can say different.

AllyCat

(16,233 posts)
15. The problem itself is death you moron.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

So the cure is NOT WORSE than the problem. I really hate that horrible, bloviating, orange gasbag.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. make that "millions must die so my stockmarket looks good"
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
Mar 2020

We are a nation of 325 million people, 3% of that is about 10 million people.

But I get your point and totally agree.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
23. This will eventually destroy Russia too. We are already hearing accounts that the true scope of the
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:09 PM
Mar 2020

infection rate in Russia is being covered up by the government. But as China and Iran have already found out, this is something that can't be covered up for long no matter what any government does.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
22. I am afraid that this pandemic will get worse fast and any talk of the cure being worse than the
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:06 PM
Mar 2020

disease will become a moot point soon enough.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
24. Trump is thinking...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

"I cannot win reelection if the economy and the stock market are in the toilet, therefore, sooner or later, I will start demanding that everyone go back to work, no matter how many people get sick, and no matter how many people die!".

The problem for Trump is, does Trump actually have a legal way to force people back to work, or to force businesses to open again?

Yeehah

(4,595 posts)
30. Only a stable genius could make such a brilliant assertion!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

I'm sure the trump bumpkins are in awe of their mighty leader's medical acumen!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
31. This is a wacko Fox talking point.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:47 PM
Mar 2020

He should ask someone about the UK’s now debunked “herd immunity” theory pencils out.

PSPS

(13,620 posts)
32. I was expecting this. This is the conditioning for normalizing many unnecessary deaths
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:53 PM
Mar 2020

Which is more important? Pitting everything we have at our disposal including the oligarchs' obscene and immoral wealth against the coronavirus or "saving the economy?" How much is a life worth? Will the DJIA go up if we give a trillion dollars to Delta Airlines? Is it "worth it" to pay for people to survive?

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
35. If you ask the 1% that question
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:58 PM
Mar 2020

I'm sure the answer will be money is more important than the lives of the 99%. If you ask us as in non Trump supporters the answer will be lives come first. If you ask Trump supporters that question the answer will be owning the liberal is all that matters even if some of have to die to do it.

MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)
37. He's bored,
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:48 PM
Mar 2020

tired of not getting praise from sycophants (both MAGAts and Mar-a-lago), and really, REALLY wants to go play golf, and nothing else matters to him.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
38. So, Remove Restrictions and Let God Sort It Out?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:12 PM
Mar 2020

I think Trump's idea is to remove the restrictions, declare mission accomplished and then try to gaslight the Nation that all the reports of people dying are fake news. After all, he got away with it for Hurricane Maria.

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