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SBoy

(92 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:22 PM Mar 2020

Domestic Airlines Prepare to Shut Flights Nationwide

Source: DJ Marketwatch

Major U.S. airlines are drafting plans for a potential voluntary shutdown of virtually all passenger flights across the U.S., according to industry and federal officials, as government agencies also consider ordering such a move and the nation’s air-traffic control system continues to be ravaged by the coronavirus contagion.
No final decisions have been made by the carriers or the White House, these officials said. As airlines struggle to keep aircraft flying with minimal passengers, various options are under consideration, these people said.
But amid the quickly spreading pandemic and mandatory stay-at-home orders covering some 80 million U.S. residents, airline executives, pilot-union leaders and federal transportation officials said they increasingly view as inevitable further sharp reductions from already-decimated schedules in passenger flights.
U.S. airlines have already eliminated the vast majority of international flying and have announced plans to cut back domestic flying by as much as 40%. Travelers are staying home at even greater rates. The Transportation Security Administration reported that passenger flow at its checkpoints was down more than 80% Sunday from the same day a year earlier.

Read more: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-airlines-prepare-plans-to-virtually-shut-down-domestic-service-amid-outbreak-2020-03-23

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Domestic Airlines Prepare to Shut Flights Nationwide (Original Post) SBoy Mar 2020 OP
time to ground, clip? dweller Mar 2020 #1
AF1 is military, wouldn't be affected. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #2
Can I use your fatnixon....................I like that.............fits him to a tee............. turbinetree Mar 2020 #4
sure dweller Mar 2020 #6
Another good one ..............can I use also............... turbinetree Mar 2020 #8
hold my beer dweller Mar 2020 #10
Thanks...................... turbinetree Mar 2020 #11
My brother-n-law just flew back to Florida.................with 10 people on board A320............ turbinetree Mar 2020 #3
At least with so few people they are able to maintain a safe distance form each other. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #9
Why Haven't Airlines Already Reduced Domestic Flights Dramatically if Traffic is Down 80%? Indykatie Mar 2020 #5
Bingo! BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #16
They have. Check flight schedules. MineralMan Mar 2020 #23
Picked my stepdaughter up from MSP today. mn9driver Mar 2020 #7
Are you still flying? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #12
Well, yes and no. mn9driver Mar 2020 #13
Just... wow. 9/11 was bad but this is horrendous. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #14
Yah it's bad. Thanks for the good wishes! mn9driver Mar 2020 #15
Forgot to add: mn9driver Mar 2020 #17
It might be time, indeed. I'm glad I did when I did. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #19
Don't Worry....It's Only For A Few Days sfstaxprep Mar 2020 #18
Welcome to DU sfstaxprep. montana_hazeleyes Mar 2020 #20
I've been thinking lately how wnylib Mar 2020 #21
That will look really strange on my Flight radar24 tracker Bengus81 Mar 2020 #22
I believe delta is flying with about 20 % capacity Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #24
Domestic Airlines Prepare to Shut Flights Nationwide Unless Bailed Out Immediately. nt captain jack Mar 2020 #25
I've read that the six top domestic airlines as well as Boeing pissed away SBoy Mar 2020 #28
Finally some common sense. sarcasmo Mar 2020 #26
Good let them go the way of PanAm and TWA KYBlue Mar 2020 #27
they are stopping flights to stop the coronavirus, so no, there will not be new airlines popping up Celerity Mar 2020 #29

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
2. AF1 is military, wouldn't be affected.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:26 PM
Mar 2020

Fat Nixon will still be able to fly to Mierda Loco on our dime, except that it's being fumigated right now.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
3. My brother-n-law just flew back to Florida.................with 10 people on board A320............
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:27 PM
Mar 2020

not counting the two pilots and the three flight attendants.................

trump you own this recession or depression, you were warned...................and you did nothing .................and you are still doing nothing....................

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
5. Why Haven't Airlines Already Reduced Domestic Flights Dramatically if Traffic is Down 80%?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:31 PM
Mar 2020

Bail out money will not replace passengers.

mn9driver

(4,425 posts)
7. Picked my stepdaughter up from MSP today.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:36 PM
Mar 2020

Her study abroad program terminated and all the kids had to evacuate. She spent 36 hours on three different airlines to get back, and she was one of the lucky ones.

The parking ramp is totally empty. So is the terminal. The only people I saw on the arrival level except for a couple stray individuals, were the very few passengers from her flight. There are dozens of empty jets parked all over the airport because all of the gates are occupied by empty jets that are also parked. Ghost town.

The airlines will have no choice but to shut down, very soon.

mn9driver

(4,425 posts)
13. Well, yes and no.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020

I have 4 trips scheduled this month and three have Nooped so far, with no replacement flying assigned. I’ve got one left at the end of the week, but right now the system has no FO, no FAs, no airplanes and no passengers showing, so I’m not holding my breath.

I bid reserve for April, so maybe I’ll get called for something then...

mn9driver

(4,425 posts)
17. Forgot to add:
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020

The reliable rumor is that we have 5 pilots down with the virus right now, at least a couple of them having a rough time. No word about Flight Attendants, but their numbers have almost certainly got to be higher.

Might be time to retire.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
19. It might be time, indeed. I'm glad I did when I did.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:29 PM
Mar 2020

I still remember how freaked out we were after 9/11 but I can't imagine how bad this situation must be. I'm not surprised that there are sick pilots and FAs, hope they'll be OK.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
18. Don't Worry....It's Only For A Few Days
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:29 PM
Mar 2020

Everything is getting back to normal next week. Idiot says so.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
21. I've been thinking lately how
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:52 AM
Mar 2020

quiet the skies have been, like after 9/11. I'm in a small city, with a small regional airport. Not much commercial traffic there, mostly private planes. Not even hearing the local private ones. Used to be flights overhead from larger airports nearby, but I am not even seeing those anymore.

Strangely, not even medical helicopter flights for quite a while. Our hospital lifts patients to larger cities for care it can't provide. But for some reason, even they have been pretty silent. Maybe just fewer urgent cases, or other hospitals are busy with covid cases. Don't know.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
24. I believe delta is flying with about 20 % capacity
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:25 AM
Mar 2020

and that is after stopping 40% of the flights. A shut down cannot be far off.

 

SBoy

(92 posts)
28. I've read that the six top domestic airlines as well as Boeing pissed away
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:29 PM
Mar 2020

Over 75% of free cash flow on stock buybacks, instead of keeping the money stashed in rainy day funds for the unforeseen....like now. Then they cry and beg us to bail them out. I say fuck em.

KYBlue

(26 posts)
27. Good let them go the way of PanAm and TWA
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:09 PM
Mar 2020

There will be new airlines popping up in a matter of weeks if the airlines start stopping flights. Let them lose customers and never get them back.

Celerity

(43,345 posts)
29. they are stopping flights to stop the coronavirus, so no, there will not be new airlines popping up
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

to take their place.

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