White House preparing to promote malaria drugs on online platform to combat coronavirus: report

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Source: The Hill

The White House is reportedly planning to promote the use of two malaria drugs frequently touted by President Trump as a potential treatment for coronavirus despite their unproven benefits, using a platform built by the tech firm Oracle.

The platform is slated to be used to collect information about off-label uses of the two drugs, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, the New York Times reported on Tuesday. The FDA is still reviewing both drugs’ effectiveness as a coronavirus treatment, and top public health officials have warned against jumping to conclusions on their effects.

Health and Human Services agencies such as the FDA and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are part of the Oracle efforts, as is the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, the Times reported, citing two senior administration officials, who said the platform could be used to gather data from doctors who prescribe the drugs and track symptoms in patients.

Dr. David B. Agus, a professor of medicine and engineering at the University of Southern California, is also reported to be working with the White House and Oracle, and has repeatedly promoted the use of the drugs against the virus, saying on television recently “the earlier you use them, the better.”



Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489356-white-house-preparing-to-promote-malaria-drugs-on-online-platform-to-combat

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Health officials within the administration have reportedly expressed dismay about Trump’s promotion of bypassing standard clinical trials for the drugs as a coronavirus remedy.

On Monday, an Arizona man died while his wife was hospitalized at Banner Health after they both ingested chloroquine phosphate ... after seeing Trump tout its effectiveness.

[McKim]

1. Wow Is He Going to Practice Medicine without a License?

Wow is Trump planning on practicing medicine without a license? This is truly scary. Calling Dr. Fauci, calling Dr. Fauci!

[Scarsdale]

9. Well, you heard him.

He said he is a "very smart guy." After all, his uncle was a professor at M.I.T.

[rickyhall]

18. The idiot thinks he's God.

[tclambert]

28. Well, he's "like a smart guy." Kinda the way a turkey is like an eagle.

Let's be clear. In this analogy, Trump is the turkey.

[SergeStorms]

29. He's a stable genius.

Just ask him, he'll tell you how stable and what a genius he really is.

[iluvtennis]

2. This shouldn't be allowed. These drugs should go through FDA clinical trial process to determine

efficacy and safety for treatment of CV-19. This is just trump trying to validate his "feeling".

[Warpy]

24. There is a clinical trial starting in Minnesota

and the FDA is investigating.

This might or not pan out. I sincerely hope it does, although the drugs can have some pretty terrible side effects.

That orange asshole thinks he can take shortcuts and bypass medical science on information that will most likely turn out to be utterly bogus. This kind of recklessness is already killing people who are self medicating with pills left over from the service or arthritis treatment. Pushing this at this stage is beyond reckless, it is criminal.

I find it more likely that Avigan, an antiviral drug used against influenza in Japan, is an effective treatment, but this also needs to be investigated. There are trials in Japan.

Every article I've read on these old drugs used to treat Covid19 is chockablock full of weasel words.

The best idea is to avoid crowds, practice meticulous hygiene, and try not to catch this until studies have progressed to the point that doctors have a better idea of how to treat it. That's my plan, anyway.

[Drahthaardogs]

40. Sadly, none of these drugs appear to be doing much

The antivirals included. Some may help some people, but there is no silver bullet.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. book him for murder. that will get his ass out of the white house.

He really does want to compete for worst human being in all of human history.

[Jamastiene]

38. I wonder if ANYTHING short of a meteor or asteroid will

get Trump out of the White House.

I wonder if anything will ever wake the Republicans up to just how selfish and idiotic their leaders really are. I don't see them using whatever brain cells they have refused to use up until this point, though. They are too PROUD of being stubborn and stupid.

[UpInArms]

4. WTF

I hate these people

[Hoyt]

5. They better put a warning not to use aquarium cleaner -- you'll overdose. Call a doctor if thinking

about it. If doctor believes it will help, they can prescribe off-label use.

[jmowreader]

6. Am I to assume...

"quackery" is not an impeachable offense, even if it kills someone - like it already has?

[Nictuku]

7. I take that drug twice a day for Lupus

Will I be able to get a refill after this? Makes one want to hoard....

[John Fante]

26. Do it.

[SunSeeker]

31. Some irresponsible doctors are already hordung for themselves.

They are writing themselves prescriptions for it. It's disgusting.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e7a13e4c5b62f90bc51ae3b

[diverdownjt]

33. Try Quecetin instead...

You can get it on Amazon...I did.

Now what does that do? It helps get zinc inside your cells. That's it.
It's the zinc that prevents the virus from taking over your cells.

Please go watch Medcram on Youtube...Dr. Scheult does instructional video's
for med students. Great lectures..but can be easily understood by the layman(like me).

Start with Corona virus update #32 and watch. He's on update #43 or 44 now.
The best thing I have seen since Dr. John Campbell.

&t=934s

[diverdownjt]

35. Sorry that should have Quercetin and Dr. Seheult.....

[SunSeeker]

36. You mean quecertin?

[bucolic_frolic]

8. Guinea Pigs for Trump

First it was all a hoax, then it was going to go away, then warm weather would make it go away by spring, now an off-label use of a toxic medication will make it all go away.

Do you get the idea that Trump wants this to go away?

It's all about his reelection, obviously. Is Rand Paul taking it? Will Trump take it if he gets infected? Will Pence? Or does he like it because malaria rhymes with Melania? We don't know.

Foretell the future. When this doesn't work, what will he try next? Radiation? Nuke the virus? When the wave really hits, what will Trump do, or blame it on? Obamacare? BidenCare?

Millions may die from this gross negligence by this charlatan and quack. Faux Snooze is complicit. Allowing this nonsense to pass for medicine would put you or I or a pyramid scheme in jail.

"You're fired!" will become "You're dead!"

Don't let it happen to you

[Journeyman]

10. Meanwhile, my wife, who needs hydroxychloroquine to treat her RA, watches her supply dwindle . . .

and the prospect of renewing her prescription grows ever more bleak.

[Thekaspervote]

22. I'm so sorry. FYI: you can get it from Canada if it comes to that

Have purchased drugs from there many times. They are the same drugs, many times manufactured by the same companies

[andym]

11. Trump can't lose with promoting hydroxychloroquine

Either it works and saves lives and he will take the credit, or it doesn't work, a few people suffer side effects or die, and he never mentions it again. It's a no risk bet for him.

Hydroxychloroquine is an approved drug with known safety and defined side effects . It's Trump's modus operandi to throw a lot of poop against the wall and see what sticks.

Moreover, there are good scientific reasons to think that hydroxychloroquine could work besides the early anecdotal reports/trials. It reduces inflammation and interferes with lysosomes, which could interfere with viral entry and exit into the cytoplasm (where it needs to get to make more virus) and blocks virus replication in cells grown on plates.

[Hoyt]

16. Exactly. One other thing he gets is providing some "hope," even if it turns out

wrong. At least two people on this thread are taking the drug for other reasons.

I’m not going to take aquarium cleaner foolishlylike the man who overdosed, RIP. But if I were hospitalized, with poor prognosis, and no viable alternative for treatment, I’d take it off-label. It’s also cheap.

trump also mentioned the Gilead drug as a possibility. It hasn’t been fleshed out, yet.

[kiri]

23. excellent analysis

So much quackery works the same. "Prayer cured me'; prayer failed and there is no voice to complain.

Confirmation bias writ bigly.

[sakabatou]

12. *facepalm*

[Harker]

13. He must have a finger in the pie...

in some roundabout way.

[BlueIdaho]

15. Yeah - He's Pissed

Jim Baker got the colloidal silver franchise...

[Jamastiene]

39. He probably has his fingers in every pie even remotely associated.

He doesn't care about human lives. He is incapable because he is a sociopath.

I wonder how many lives are going to be lost by people drinking aquarium cleaner instead of taking the safer alternative.

I guess technically those drinking the aquarium cleaner are the "proof' it works. I mean, being dead pretty much affirms they will never get the Covid virus. So, technically, it does work, in a very messed up way.

[BlueIdaho]

14. Are we there yet?

Has he reached a level of lunacy that gets him removed from office by two guys in white jackets and a butterfly net?

[Jamastiene]

41. In a normal country, it might.

But, this is America. The mighty dollar rules all and has the final say. It's the freaking Twilight Zone filled with pod people on steroids here. He'll be hailed as a hero. We can still wish, I guess.

[colsohlibgal]

17. He Is Dead Set On Thinning His Own Herd

Obviously he is too self centered and and not so smart to realize this.

[Jamastiene]

42. Let them run off the cliff for him.

Others have been willing to fall on the sword for him. Maybe he will thin his herd. It'll do us all a favor in the long run.

[truthisfreedom]

19. Darwin Awards are gonna have a serious backlog this season.

There isn’t enough metal to cast them all.

[benld74]

20. Hackers of the world get ready. nt

[C Moon]

21. When he's finally put out to pasture, the stories of working in the WH are going to be mind blowing.

[GoneOffShore]

43. Can't wait for him to be pasteurised.

[Historic NY]

25. Hasn't he already done enough damage....

Hannity is doing promotion...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/coronavirus-cure-kills-man-after-trump-touts-chloroquine-phosphate]

[Corgigal]

27. Someone, wake the dead.

All they needed was a few pills. Who knew?

[Chicago1980]

30. On the bright side...

Smart people won't be paying attention to that.

Hey Darwin! What are you about to do?

[stopbush]

32. He wants to show how he's "been right about a lot of things."

Asshole.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Meanwhile: Nevada Governor Bars Malaria Drugs for Coronavirus Patients

10:46 PM - The governor’s rule comes a day after a Phoenix-area man died and his wife was in critical condition from taking an additive used to clean fish tanks known as chloroquine phosphate, similar to the drug used to treat malaria. ... (us news and report)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142455673

[Jamastiene]

37. Those fucking selfish assholes.

Their followers are idiots. I just hope all voting Democrats are smart enough to ignore all medical advice from those selfish, greedy idiots in the Trump admin.

[Omaha Steve]

44. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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