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catsudon

(864 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:55 AM Mar 2020

Amazon fires warehouse worker who led Staten Island strike for more coronavirus protection

Source: cnbc

Amazon has fired a Staten Island warehouse worker who organized a strike to demand greater protections for employees amid the coronavirus outbreak.

Chris Smalls, a management assistant at the facility, known as JFK8, said he was fired Monday afternoon following the strike. Smalls and other employees walked out to call attention to the lack of protections for warehouse workers. The workers are also urging Amazon to close the facility after a worker tested positive for the coronavirus last week. The organizers said that at least 50 people joined the walkout

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/amazon-fires-staten-island-coronavirus-strike-leader-chris-smalls.html



I expected this from Amazon
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Amazon fires warehouse worker who led Staten Island strike for more coronavirus protection (Original Post) catsudon Mar 2020 OP
Stand tall, Mr. Smalls. ck4829 Mar 2020 #1
Jeff Bezos: yer killin' me, Smalls! Cirque du So-What Mar 2020 #2
The richest man in the world is just another slimy capitalist. rickyhall Mar 2020 #3
Capitalists are just people. PETRUS Mar 2020 #21
Amazon may easily find itself Sherman A1 Mar 2020 #4
This will eventually hurt Amazon duforsure Mar 2020 #5
GF Me for the guy? 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #6
Hmm so he wanted safety at his workplace but Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2020 #7
Help me understand melm00se Mar 2020 #8
Is it true? Fullduplexxx Mar 2020 #9
That was the Amazon statement melm00se Mar 2020 #10
And it was a well crafted statement Fullduplexxx Mar 2020 #11
and, arguably, so is his melm00se Mar 2020 #12
A "spokesman" is usually from the public relations team Politicub Mar 2020 #13
That's true for anybody motivated, with a goal. Igel Mar 2020 #15
Were the multiple warnings in writing, with Smalls acknowledging them? TexasBushwhacker Mar 2020 #24
If true he should have stayed home and contacted CNN,MSNBC and others Bengus81 Mar 2020 #14
Fuck Amazon, Whole Foods and Instacart for treating BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #16
Wow! Sorry That Happened ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #17
It all comes down to $$$$$ BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #18
The Schools Here Shut Down on the 13th ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #19
Friday the 13th... BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #20
im begging to think catsudon Mar 2020 #23
I'm not surprised Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #22

Cirque du So-What

(26,450 posts)
2. Jeff Bezos: yer killin' me, Smalls!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:03 AM
Mar 2020

The cost of PPE and other control measures don't threaten my position as richest man in the world, but it still chaps my ass to pay for it.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
3. The richest man in the world is just another slimy capitalist.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:07 AM
Mar 2020

All capitalists are not slimy, just the dicks likes Bezos & the Kochs.

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
21. Capitalists are just people.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:02 PM
Mar 2020

So, yeah, not necessarily slimy. Capitalism, on the other hand, is a slimy system, full stop.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Amazon may easily find itself
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:08 AM
Mar 2020

Confronting both New York and Federal labor laws in the not too distant future.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
5. This will eventually hurt Amazon
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:24 AM
Mar 2020

Especially when others start up similar companies serving the people online, and there is a better choice where they do take care of their employees.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
7. Hmm so he wanted safety at his workplace but
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:34 AM
Mar 2020
refusing to remain quarantined after coming into close contact with an associate who tested positive for the virus

melm00se

(5,019 posts)
8. Help me understand
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:55 AM
Mar 2020

why this is out of bounds based upon this:

An Amazon spokesperson confirmed to CNBC that Smalls was fired, saying he received “multiple warnings” for violating social distancing guidelines and refusing to remain quarantined after coming into close contact with an associate who tested positive for the virus.

“Despite that instruction to stay home with pay, he came onsite today, March 30, further putting the teams at risk,” the spokesperson said. “This is unacceptable and we have terminated his employment as a result of these multiple safety issues.”


He came into close contact with someone diagnosed.
He was told to stay home and self quarantine, with pay, for 2 weeks.
He came into work and risked additional spread.

I'd've fired him whether he advocated for a strike or not.

melm00se

(5,019 posts)
10. That was the Amazon statement
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:05 AM
Mar 2020

as reported in the article (as well as a number of others that I read).

melm00se

(5,019 posts)
12. and, arguably, so is his
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:48 AM
Mar 2020
“Amazon would rather fire workers than face up to its total failure to do what it should to keep us, our families, and our communities safe,” Smalls said in a statement. “I am outraged and disappointed, but I’m not shocked. As usual, Amazon would rather sweep a problem under the rug than act to keep workers and working communities safe.”


So which is to be believed? As Mr. Smalls' statement, like the Amazon one, hits very specific points with very specific language and intonation.

Politicub

(12,174 posts)
13. A "spokesman" is usually from the public relations team
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mar 2020

I would take anything coming from PR with a grain of salt.

Igel

(35,747 posts)
15. That's true for anybody motivated, with a goal.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:37 AM
Mar 2020

Which is why in courts we usually try to have at least two sides presented, and then (if principle, at least) try to use reason and logic and evidence to sort out who's telling the whole truth, who's telling partial truth, who's bending the truth so it's still recognizable, and who's making up stuff. And then go from there.

As soon as you see anybody saying, "We need to believe __________" in an argument based on ideology, there's no justice or truth involved, just Justice and Truth (which usually means "what my group wants, likes, and finds useful" ... People are people).

TexasBushwhacker

(20,505 posts)
24. Were the multiple warnings in writing, with Smalls acknowledging them?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:40 PM
Mar 2020

If not, Bezos can go fuck himself.

BigmanPigman

(52,119 posts)
16. Fuck Amazon, Whole Foods and Instacart for treating
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:15 PM
Mar 2020

employees' health concerns seriously. Bezos...richest man in the world!!!!

I would have walked out over safety/health concerns. In fact I did get sick at work place and had to go to the teachers union to get action (they saved my life too). My school district gave me a can of Lysol for black mold and no windows to open for fresh air. The teachers' union had the whole building destroyed since it was so filled with mold. I was really harassed by the district for the rest of my career after that.

ProfessorGAC

(66,824 posts)
17. Wow! Sorry That Happened
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020

I don't get what part of "healthy workers are productive workers" some managers don't understand.

BigmanPigman

(52,119 posts)
18. It all comes down to $$$$$
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020

and doesn't matter if adults AND kids get sick. During the month I was in that contaminated classroom my first graders and I were showing each other how to use our inhalers. I had to sleep sitting up and have permanent damage. I had to stop teaching since I was continually getting sick afterwards and my doctors finally made me leave...retirement/disability. Now I live on a very small income since not enough years worked and pay tons for the ACA. And they had the nerve to harass me for over 10 years after they did this to me. I was the union rep at my site and the admin and district was merciless and followed me whenever I changed schools (black listed).

If I were still teaching I would have walked out 4 weeks ago! Really.

ProfessorGAC

(66,824 posts)
19. The Schools Here Shut Down on the 13th
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:35 PM
Mar 2020

Illinois wasn't very hard hit until into March. That 2nd week, court was still in session. I was on a jury!
Trial was over and I subbed Friday the 13th. The rumor the gov was going to close schools was palpable.
At least that was 18 days ago, but not 4 weeks!

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