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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:39 PM Apr 2020

Navy Captain Removed From Carrier Tests Positive for Covid-19

Source: NY Times

Capt. Brett E. Crozier, the Navy captain who was removed from command of the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt, has tested positive for Covid-19, according to two Naval Academy classmates of Crozier’s who are close to him and his family.

The commander began exhibiting symptoms before he was removed from the warship on Thursday, two of his classmates said. Crozier was fired following a leak to The San Francisco Chronicle of a letter he had emailed to Navy leaders that detailed the failures on the service’s part to provide the necessary resources to swiftly move sailors off the carrier and disinfect areas on board as the virus spread through the ship.

Thomas B. Modly, the acting secretary of the Navy, said he had lost confidence in Crozier’s ability to command the ship effectively as it dealt with the evolving crisis after Crozier sent the letter on an unclassified email system to 20 to 30 people. Sending such a letter, Modly said, caused unnecessary alarm about the operational readiness of the ship and undermined the chain of command. “In sending it out pretty broadly, he did not take care to ensure that it couldn’t be leaked,” Modly said. “And that’s part of his responsibility.”

In a briefing Saturday, President Trump offered support for Modly’s decision. “He shouldn’t be talking that way in a letter,” the president said of Crozier. “I thought it was terrible what he did.”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/navy-captain-removed-from-carrier-tests-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB12c4ip?ocid=msedgdhp

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Navy Captain Removed From Carrier Tests Positive for Covid-19 (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2020 OP
Believable, incredibly sad. 7wo7rees Apr 2020 #1
Trump will say ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #2
I so wish Trump would get the virus. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #3
Do virus's attack virus's? whistler162 Apr 2020 #6
You've got plenty of company, about the Dotard. raccoon Apr 2020 #9
Fourth, the bastard could die from it and we'd all be better off. n/t BlueStater Apr 2020 #10
His followers would believe that liberal gave it him Javaman Apr 2020 #13
Just pack his pie-hole with chloroquinine. marble falls Apr 2020 #20
All that stevil Apr 2020 #15
How DARE he tell the truth? Scarsdale Apr 2020 #4
Hey MODLY Leghorn21 Apr 2020 #5
He absolutely couldn't have done more to help his crew. Total hero. Everyone knows it. Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #7
I just read his letter... elias7 Apr 2020 #8
i understand why he was fired Steelrolled Apr 2020 #11
Oh fuck,... magicarpet Apr 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Apr 2020 #14
Putin's puppet, criticizing a HERO Skittles Apr 2020 #16
Swear to god, if I hear one more bitch about the SACROSANCT "Chain of Command," Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #17
Speaking of "talking that way in a letter"... jmowreader Apr 2020 #18
He purposely got it to embarrass Cadet Bonespurs ... marble falls Apr 2020 #19
Nothing to see here....move along Bengus81 Apr 2020 #21
Maybe this needed to happen. EndlessWire Apr 2020 #22

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
1. Believable, incredibly sad.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 12:52 PM
Apr 2020

Sometimes there are just no words.

I will hold him in my heart and send all of healing vibes I can find to send to this very special commander who has given a lifetime of service to his country.

Be well Captain Crozier.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
3. I so wish Trump would get the virus.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 01:01 PM
Apr 2020

First of all, it would send a message to his supporters that this virus is serious and maybe they would start self-quarantining and stop spreading germs through church services and other social gatherings. Secondly, it might finally register with Trump that we need scientists and epidemiologists, not his BS propaganda shows. And, third, it would get him off his propaganda shows for at least a few days and give the country a rest from listening to the drivel he spouts and instead listening to the scientists.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
4. How DARE he tell the truth?
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 01:07 PM
Apr 2020

I wonder how many more of the crew will test positive, since the response is slow in coming? This man has an exemplary resume, a terrific education, lots of commendations. In other words, a tribute to the service. The failure in the WH is not fit to shine his shoes. How many careers has the failure-in-chief ruined so far?

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
5. Hey MODLY
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 01:28 PM
Apr 2020
Fuck you

Kindly get on that ship personally and get it SQUARED AWAY, PRONTO

FUCK YOU

All best wishes, Capt. Crozier, recover ASAP good sir

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
7. He absolutely couldn't have done more to help his crew. Total hero. Everyone knows it.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 02:16 PM
Apr 2020

Hope Trump won't interfere with his care and try to make things even harder for him as he tries to recover. You know he will, if he can find a way.

Who kind of monster would have dreamed of putting power in the hands of the most vicious man on earth?

Capt. Brett Crozier has steadfast admirers across the nation. He will be remembered with greatest respect.

elias7

(3,991 posts)
8. I just read his letter...
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 02:22 PM
Apr 2020

I get why he sent this out broadly, so it couldn’t be squelched by a simple direct superior officer. He could see the time factor, sense the rate of spread, see the inability to protect oneself. A burying of the letter for even a week could have meant the difference of a multi factor increase in infections. By sounding the alarm, he forced the public into the debate, and one they were probably going to lose considering how cruise ships (which are easier to self quarantine on) were forced to keep passengers on board. He probably prevented dozens of infections... probably some lives as well...

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
11. i understand why he was fired
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

and of course he is far from the first to be fired for something like this. I'd like to know how this was leaked to the press.

magicarpet

(14,119 posts)
12. Oh fuck,...
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 03:27 PM
Apr 2020

Where the fuck is God or Jesus,... are they out playing golf with trDump ?

Crozier blew the whistle and it shit trashed his career because he did not want the young men on his aircraft carrier to become infected with the wretched Coronavirus.

We can only hope Crozier is strong enough to fight Covid off and fully recover.

Damn sending the angels to the gallows,.. wtf.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. Swear to god, if I hear one more bitch about the SACROSANCT "Chain of Command,"
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 12:45 AM
Apr 2020

I'm going to puke. That "chain" to which they refer is made up of people, each "link" in the chain is another human being, making the best possible decisions they can given the circumstances under which they are operating. As you ascend the links, the choices become more complex. As a retired Sailor, I get all of this and why it matters.

During times of normal activity, the Chain of Command sends a strong message to all that there are rules to be followed and under which circumstances they are invoked. But we sailed out of normal waters a long time ago.

COVID-19 is new territory for all of us, even NAVY ships at sea. Now, I hear that Moldy is saying that Captain Crozier "panicked." Of his 4800 crew members, 25% of them were off loaded and are now in health care facilities. If 25% of YOUR workforce were ill, you'd be moving heaven and earth to get them the care they need.

Then we were treated to "Empty Suit" Esper said that they had "only 155" confirmed cases. Well, once everyone gets tested, those numbers are going to increase.

I find it unacceptable, intolerable and unconscionable that all of the people making these determinations do not have one medical license among them. This is not a management training run amok. It is a medical pandemic and we have fried dick sandwiches running the operation, not the medical experts.

I do say this. I sleep a bit easier at night now knowing that that orange pustule has lost any possible chance of winning re-election. He will be lucky to escape prison. But I do think he should be deported. In one of his own Space Force vehicles.

I do salute Captain Brett Crozier for his actions. I would be proud to serve with him any day.

BRAVO ZULU, Captain Crozier, BRAVO ZULU.
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jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
18. Speaking of "talking that way in a letter"...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:18 AM
Apr 2020

I read the letter Trump sent to Senator Schumer, that he leaked to the press himself.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
19. He purposely got it to embarrass Cadet Bonespurs ...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:01 AM
Apr 2020

I hope he gets over it quickly. Then I hope he finds a GOP Senator to start running against for 2022.

EndlessWire

(6,457 posts)
22. Maybe this needed to happen.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 07:39 PM
Apr 2020

I don't like the idea of a nuclear warship being crewed by sailors with potential disabilities and nothing to help them prevent the spread of this deadly virus. I think that anyone who allowed this to happen isn't doing his job.

Protecting our fighting men and women should be a no brainer. But, anyone that makes Trump look like the dolt that he is is punished severely. We've seen it before, and we will see it again.

How demoralized those sailors must be now. The new captain will probably get sick, too. He shouldn't have run his mouth to the entire crew, but it smacks of directives from Trump. Now, the new captain could have given them an inspirational rah-rah speech, but he chose to flap his lips against the departing Captain, which to me is a breach of military etiquette.

As CiC, Trump definitely has a duty to maintain our military. Despite the leak to the paper, why is the ship in so much trouble to begin with? Why should any Captain have to beg for help with a frickin' plague on board, which his sailors are catching?

Trump is incompetent. And, he turned his responsibility over to Pence and Jared.

Impeachment No. 2 is recommended. When this is over, and Trump is ousted, we will have quite a number of brave heroes to thank for doing their duty.

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