Acting Navy secretary blasts ousted aircraft carrier captain as 'stupid' in address to ship's crew
Source: CNN
(CNN)The Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly blasted the now ousted commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt as "stupid" in an address to the ship's crew Monday morning, in remarks obtained by CNN.
Modly told the crew that their former commander, Capt. Brett Crozier, was either "too naive or too stupid" to be in command or that he intentionally leaked to the media a memo in which he warned about coronavirus spreading aboard the aircraft carrier and urged action to save his sailors.
The acting secretary accused Crozier of committing a "betrayal" and creating a "big controversy" in Washington by disseminating the warning so widely.
"It was a betrayal. And I can tell you one other thing: because he did that he put it in the public's forum and it is now a big controversy in Washington, DC," Modly said, according to a transcript of remarks Modly made to the crew, copies of which have been provided to CNN by multiple Navy officials.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/politics/uss-tr-crozier-modly/index.html
Dear God help us.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)I can't believe it's happening. If the Navy felt they had to remove him from command, then they should have done so discreetly. This is now a pile of political vomit.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)It appears that there is a pandemic of stupidity and arrogance ever since Trump became president.
wnylib
(21,306 posts)to the crew by the acting secretary.
I have been watching Winds of War and and the sequel, War and Remembrance. This address to the crew reminds me of the scenes in which Adolf ranted irrationally at military officers.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)vulnerable our military is when bozo the clown as president.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Bozo would have done a far better job and, no matter what, it would have been a barrel of laughs and lots of fun. I mean, if he didn't like the press' questions, it would have been a pie and a spritz with soda water as a sign of disapproval, etc.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)local TV Bozo's last words when he retired was throwing a big fit about big government & high taxes and that was way before the
T-bagger movement
smb
(3,471 posts)If only this maladminstration were full of funny clowns like Bozo and Clarabelle and Ronald McDonald instead of evil clowns like Pennywise and Sideshow Bob and the Joker.
sdfernando
(4,923 posts)LakeVermilion
(1,037 posts)He was never approved by Congress. He is only a pretend secretary cause he hasn't been vetted.
niyad
(113,021 posts)Aristus
(66,275 posts)One thing I know for certain about service people. You never disrespect a universally-admired commanding officer.
unblock
(52,113 posts)dhill926
(16,307 posts)onethatcares
(16,161 posts)from a gangplank to nowhere.
gaud these people are toadies, not a spine among the lot.
christx30
(6,241 posts)on stage, complaining about the disrespect. Id like that better. People walking out on these people, not listening to them. Not showing them any regard.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)groundloop
(11,513 posts)I'm sure the crew was ordered to endure that speech, he should have been talking to the backs of their heads after that remark.
Damn, that was a dumb-assed move that's going to backfire bigly against tRump. Should have just kept his mouth shut.
Dem2theMax
(9,637 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,563 posts)Making that kind of speech over the ship's loudspeaker was a stupid thing to do with any captain, let alone one who got a standing ovation as he left the ship -- especially when a video of that send off went viral.
If I were a crewman on that ship -- and actually throughout the Navy -- I would interpret the comments of the acting Secretary of the Navy (is there anybody in the Trump administration who isn't "acting"?) as being more concerned about the optics of the situation than the well being of the crew.
I'm not surprised so many positions in Fat Donnie's administration are "acting," given that Trump himself is acting like he's the president in a reality show.
unblock
(52,113 posts)they're blaming him for either telling the media (which they admit they have no evidence of) or of not figuring out that the media would pick up the story (which is clearly something navy personnel need to be experts at ).
Turbineguy
(37,285 posts)pronounce this guy's name "Moldy".
riversedge
(70,047 posts)GopherGal
(2,007 posts)absolutely disgusting.
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)That the Trump syndrome has now infected military leadership, and likely soon to be the new creed of assassinate the character of those who stray off message or tell the truth
Happy Hoosier
(7,210 posts)He is a hack political appointee.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)jeffreyi
(1,938 posts)And to be so disrespectful, in that context...crazy.
still_one
(92,060 posts)should come as no surprise
turbinetree
(24,683 posts)take that orange horse you ride on and he can go fuck himself, he has no concept of what unit integrity means, none , do you..............................and since you support a traitor from the sounds of it, and that you are are now accusing the Capt'n betrayed his men, how dare you, are you that fucking sick.
I rad and saw it being reported that a asshole someone wants you to take pill he thinks that cure 's everything, are you his lab rat or mouse................. who side are you on anyway, he was fucking IMPEACHED in the House, that means he has no fucking standing............................
I STAND WITH CAPT. CROZIER............................
sinkingfeeling
(51,434 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I'm off to Google to check...
sarge43
(28,940 posts)graduated Annapolis, chopper pilot, seven years in all up.
He should turn in his class ring.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)sarge43
(28,940 posts)Pride?!
When one signs on with Moron, pride is permanently left with the WH gate guard who then puts it in the medical waste can.
I wonder if there's a video. I'd love to see how the Teddy's crew reacted -- if Moldy got the slow four chap and out salute.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I haven't heard of any video, so far.
I don't think I'll ever understand what kind of disease of mind and character impels anyone to work for the Moron.
stopdiggin
(11,236 posts)in the armed services, are seriously deluding themselves.
And .. we all know that this particular brand of political persuasion .. lends itself more to posturing, bombast and tribalism .. than to critical thinking.
Annapolis = not entirely stupid, (although not necessarily a rock star either)
Trumper = knock 25 points off the top
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
NCjack
(10,279 posts)with instructions to clean out the cockroaches.
DavidDvorkin
(19,465 posts)underpants
(182,585 posts)Over the PA system.
Bev54
(10,037 posts)The crew was yelling profanities at him.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/listen-sailors-yell-profanities-at-trumps-acting-navy-secretary-while-he-trashes-fired-captain/?utm_source=push_notifications
That crew revered their captain. We all saw the send-off they gave him. He fought for THEM and THEIR safety and health. He was all about protecting his men.
I bet they'll remember that for the rest of their lives.
DavidDvorkin
(19,465 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,983 posts)Modly needs to resign. Trump's vanity does not come before our sailors' lives.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)You get lackeys who parrot the Dear Leader's authoritarian bee ess instead of an independent and competent agency head.
Trump is a fn idiot who install fn idiots.
If this gets legs, Trump will be looking for another acting fn idiot.
soryang
(3,299 posts)Did the administration Trump, Pomeo, Esper, Stilwell, and O'Brien score all the points against China they thought they would?
Was it worth it?
Bigredhunk
(1,347 posts)Go fuck yourself. Sir.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)He knows that Trump has decimated our military preparedness by appointing sycophants to top positions as acting leaders. He doesnt have to talk about military preparedness, but his observations on Trumps incompetence might get more people to stop listening to Trump and self quarantine instead of keeping businesses (and beaches) open and enabling the spread. General Kelly could shed a lot of light on Trumps actions and decision-making criteria. We know his sole criterion is self enrichment at the expense of everyone else, but his followers have yet to get their heads out of the Trump quicksand.
atreides1
(16,064 posts)Mattis, is a good Marine...that's why he resigned as Defense Secretary...because he didn't have the guts to stay until Trump fired him!!!
Don't count on Mattis for much...he's covering his own ass, and making sure his ability to earn money isn't impeded!!!!
keithbvadu2
(36,640 posts)"Stupid"? Not the word a leader would use in public about his troops.
It is a word that a Trumpster would use.
Chainfire
(17,458 posts)Do not go through Nuclear Power School, learn to fly jets, and command carriers. What is stupid is to make such a comment.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)I hope the next POTUS makes Crozier the next Secretary of the Navy and the Trump sycophants are reassigned to garbage duty.
2naSalit
(86,308 posts)have a mutiny against the CIC?
underpants
(182,585 posts)SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)To use his words, one has to be pretty "naive or stupid" to think blasting something over the loudspeaker of a fucking aircraft carrier while in port is not going to leak!
He is clearly too stupid and neive to be Acting Navy Secretary. He must resign.
Catherine Vincent
(34,486 posts)Dude has his head so far up Trump's ass it's ridiculous!
ThoughtCriminal
(14,046 posts)And on an aircraft carrier, that would be pretty intense.
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)Worse, instead of an email, he did it over a ship's loudspeaker while in port. Modly has no business being in that job. His panicked and cracked under pressure. He has no clue how to lead sailors.
Mercurian
(48 posts)..the beatings will continue until morale improves. Way to break the essential trust in the chain of command Modly. Cheeto Mussolini couldn't have done better himself.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Wait the SEc of the Navy is upset that the Capt. broadcast what he was saying. OMG how the tables were turned. Sure sounds like the Sec of Navy's deaf ear, is what caused this entire event. Keelhaul him!!!!
iluvtennis
(19,825 posts)that Capt Crozier did the leak? I trust no one in the trump admin and suspect that they leaked the email to the email, not Crozier.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)captain queeg
(10,083 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,059 posts)-senior citizens (their future SS benefits being reduced);
-military personnel;
-citizens of urban areas of aid being withheld or not provided;
-women;
-non white American citizens of this country;
-immigrants (legal especially);
-TX folks who had their property illegally seized to build a damn ineffective wall;
-99% of us that didn't receive the bulk of the 2017 tax cuts (and 'jobs' bill);
-city of NYC;
-residents of all states, withholding aid and help for all of the states, claiming that the stockpiles is 'ours'.
-LIST GOES ON
I'm sure that there are tons more that can be added.
world wide wally
(21,734 posts)bluestarone
(16,851 posts)Got a SHIP FULL of VOTES here in NOV.!!!!!
barbtries
(28,756 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)whatever. Another nasty POS put in power by the nasty POSTUS
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)I want him brought back on active duty, reduced to Seaman Recruit, and assigned to duty as a deckhand on a garbage barge.
PatrickforO
(14,557 posts)in Washington. And this piece of crap Modley hasn't spent a fricking day of his disgusting life in the Navy. Just another Trump crony who is more interested in lining his pockets than in serving the people of this country.
riversedge
(70,047 posts)Ward Carroll @wardcarroll
Transcript of Acting SECNAV's recent 1MC remarks to the crew of Theodore Roosevelt. (He's aboard.) Long story short, he's convinced he did the right thing.
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! Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly told the crew of the USS Theodore Roosevelt that their former commander Capt. Brett Crozier -- who warned of dangerous conditions on the ship -- was either "too naive or too stupid" to be in command.
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After a video surfaced of crew members chanting his name, Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly blasted Captain Brett Crozier as "stupid" in an address to the ship's crew this morning in remarks that were piped over the PA system.
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Gothmog
(144,884 posts)Response to orangecrush (Original post)
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sarge43
(28,940 posts)He bailed at seven years.
Academy grad should have put a couple of stars on his promotion jacket. Don't how much promotion sugar Navy chopper pilots get. Legal, that's a non-line job, not exactly a fast forward field. Finally, why did he get a major career field switch?
Given that 'speech', I'm thinking he's an example of the Peter Principle, promoted beyond his abilities.
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sarge43
(28,940 posts)Don't know very much about the USN, but I'm guessing a CV captain would have a lieutenant's remains spread on his morning toast.
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)Link to tweet
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