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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:56 AM Apr 2020

Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources

Source: ABC News

"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," a source says.

By Josh Margolin and James Gordon Meek

April 8, 2020, 4:01 AM

As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.

Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.

The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images. It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia -- forces that depend on the NCMI’s work. And it paints a picture of an American government that could have ramped up mitigation and containment efforts far earlier to prepare for a crisis poised to come home.

"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House.

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Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273&cid=social_twitter_abcn



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Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Apr 2020 OP
No wonder he fired Michael Atkinson. n/t pnwmom Apr 2020 #1
Hmmmmm..... Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #2
If this report is correct canetoad Apr 2020 #7
Well, Dolt45 has never trusted US intelligence sources csziggy Apr 2020 #21
What's not said is Igel Apr 2020 #29
The Who? Ligyron Apr 2020 #11
Not fond of any of them Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #12
Codswallop. Even I had heard of the situation in by the first part of Jan, in the hinterlands. niyad Apr 2020 #17
Duh 29%ers... Maxheader Apr 2020 #3
That is the point bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #4
The Chinese Govt did try to cover it up Meowmee Apr 2020 #5
K and R dewsgirl Apr 2020 #6
"...and the white house." bluecollar2 Apr 2020 #8
K&R ck4829 Apr 2020 #9
Just like with Shrub and 911... Ligyron Apr 2020 #10
Or just too damned lazy to pay attention jaxexpat Apr 2020 #13
or looking for the opportunity in disaster instead of keeping Americans safe. Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #15
or how about: jaxexpat Apr 2020 #24
oh, that's very good! Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #26
Willful, wanton, reckless incompetence with a bigly dosage of fraud. MFGsunny Apr 2020 #14
Yup! pandr32 Apr 2020 #28
Did US do a Cover up too? mgardener Apr 2020 #16
And how quickly after Trump knew about this last November did he and Kushner ... Botany Apr 2020 #18
+1 dalton99a Apr 2020 #32
How to measure the GRReat job he says he's done. R-W-M Apr 2020 #19
Welcome To The Forum, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25
And Trump did nothing to protect our citizens. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #20
Extrapolation Ad Infinitum Apr 2020 #22
Now if trump claims he didn't know back then duforsure Apr 2020 #23
Don't forget Ohiogal Apr 2020 #27
Some of the government agencies use this..... Historic NY Apr 2020 #30
Investigate ASAP and impeach eom. Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #31
Yeah, but who reads those things, right? Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2020 #33

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. Hmmmmm.....
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:31 AM
Apr 2020

I see at least one fairly intelligent fellow on Facebook discussions adamant that it was the WHO and the Chinese who covered this up, making it impossible for the “Horses Ass” to have known or done anything.

canetoad

(17,149 posts)
7. If this report is correct
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:59 AM
Apr 2020

And the Intelligence services reported events in Wuhan in November, it doesn't matter if and by whom anything was subsequently covered up. The intelligence was there; why wasn't it acted upon?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
21. Well, Dolt45 has never trusted US intelligence sources
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:45 AM
Apr 2020

Probably because he realizes that they know way more than he'd like about his nefarious schemes.

I have no doubt that Dolt was given those reports and screamed "FAKE!" then threw the reports out - or as reported previously tore them up. He probably thinks that once he tore them up, all other copies and knowledge of them would magically disappear.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
29. What's not said is
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 03:33 PM
Apr 2020

where it was routed and what important was attached to it.

If it was that dire it would have been shared with NATO allies, as well.

And would have been hard to keep from being a problem elsewhere. I mean, first report is the end of December? And human-to-human transmission left hanging until mid-January?

niyad

(113,253 posts)
17. Codswallop. Even I had heard of the situation in by the first part of Jan, in the hinterlands.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:26 AM
Apr 2020

But then, I trust our Intel communities. I do not trust the tangerine tyrant or his admin.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
4. That is the point
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:43 AM
Apr 2020

Even if China was covering it up, we have intelligence whose job it is to know everything knowable, and the idea they didn't know, when there have been past outbreaks of contagions, and in the region, makes any plausible deniability for Trump very tenuous indeed

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
5. The Chinese Govt did try to cover it up
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:57 AM
Apr 2020

Read about of Dr Li Wenliang, the first recorded case was on November 17 2019, it was not associated with the Wuhan Market, so intelligence in Nov sounds right.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
10. Just like with Shrub and 911...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:39 AM
Apr 2020

Is it willful ignorance, know nothingness, incompetence?

Or purposeful design.

Naw, they're not that smart ... but they are that evil.

Besides, never assign to the later what is best explained by the former.

or something like that...

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
15. or looking for the opportunity in disaster instead of keeping Americans safe.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

That should be our slogan: Make America SAFE again!

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
14. Willful, wanton, reckless incompetence with a bigly dosage of fraud.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

Yep - that's MF45 and his grifting cabal, truly a maladministration.

OF COURSE our IC knew from back in November 2019.
But we will remember, remember this 3rd od November 2020.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
16. Did US do a Cover up too?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:56 AM
Apr 2020

We have a POTUS who lied to Americans about the severity of COVID, and the extent it was spreading in the US
We didn't have tests, we still don't have we need, so we don't know the extent of how many people have it in the US.
How many people have milder symptoms and cannot get tested?
TRUMP NEEDS TO RESIGN.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
18. And how quickly after Trump knew about this last November did he and Kushner ...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:29 AM
Apr 2020

... tried to monetize it?

R-W-M

(2 posts)
19. How to measure the GRReat job he says he's done.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:30 AM
Apr 2020

If we could just answer the question with the numbers, what would the conclusion be after early warnings from the Defense Department, the Intelligence community, the CDC.

The USA has about 5% of the world's population, and currently has 29% of the world's reported cases.

Heck of a job...Liar and Chief.

 

Ad Infinitum

(74 posts)
22. Extrapolation
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:07 AM
Apr 2020



Even big business understands that without consumers,
you can't get rich very easily unless you invent, win or through
hard work. The new crop of inbred Repubican'ts doesn't value
anything new or different. It seems to be the so threatened by
"other" people. They mostly live only surface lives: never realizing
that diverse friends are a source of joy and a marvelous way to see other people.
We need to expand our individual in groups. Liberals embrace other
people and bring them in with us. Republicans react quickly in an emergency,
sadly all of the rest of their lives are consumed by terror.


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
23. Now if trump claims he didn't know back then
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:21 AM
Apr 2020

Its shows he's intentionally covering it up. Also it would show by his refusals to act while he stood to profit from it with stocks he owned , this was intentional and corrupt and criminal, and illegal from the start from trump. trump will have to answer some key questions , or be removed ASAP. Reporters today should confront him if he would profit from it in any way. Then ask if he was aware of this possible outbreak much sooner than in Jan. .

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