Liberty University police issue arrest warrants for NYT, ProPublica reporters
Source: The Hill
Liberty University president Jerry Falwell Jr. on Wednesday said that arrest warrants had been issued for reporters from The New York Times and ProPublica after both publications wrote stories criticizing his decision last month to partially reopen his Virginia-based.
Photos of the arrest warrants for New York Times freelance photographer Julia Rendleman and ProPublica reporter Alec MacGillis, were published on the website of conservative radio host Todd Starnes. The warrant alleges each committed misdemeanor trespassing on campus while gathering information for their respective stories.
Falwell Jr.'s decision on March 24 to reopen the private evangelical Christian university campus as all other universities in the state remained closed amid the coronavirus crisis occurred came nearly two weeks after Gov. Ralph Northam (D) issued a state of emergency, prompting widespread criticism. The move sparked widespread criticism. Five days after the campus reopened, The New York Times reported that, according to the school's director of student health services, nearly a dozen students had reported symptoms similar to those experienced in positive coronavirus cases.
The university said that the reporters committed trespassing on posted property.
"The arrest warrants are issued by a magistrate based on information derived from an investigation conducted by Liberty University Police Department, the police agency with primary jurisdiction, based on reports of criminal trespassing on posted property made by Liberty University," the University told The Hill in an email.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/492015-liberty-university-police-issue-arrest-warrants-for-nyt-propublica-reporters
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)enterprise issue arrest warrants? Idiots.
RKP5637
(67,089 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)afaik
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)He she may well have that...
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)Maybe trespassing falls under their jurisdiction. In PA, they can handle civil cases up to $12,000. I would liken the kinds of cases to those the TV judge shows resolve.
Chrysanthemum
(188 posts)You'll notice in the article that the warrants are for misdemeanors, not felonies.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)paleotn
(17,884 posts)I doubt they'll be extradited. The whole thing won't last 15 minutes in a court of law.
generalbetrayus
(507 posts)"The arrest warrants are issued by a magistrate based on information derived from an investigation conducted by Liberty University Police Department, the police agency with primary jurisdiction, based on reports of criminal trespassing on posted property made by Liberty University," the University told The Hill in an email."
Hopefully, the case would be quickly laughed out of court if it ever gets to court, but it sounds like there is a legal document here.
usaf-vet
(6,165 posts)Let their campus Police arrest someone.......That someone would have legal grounds and criminal grounds to go after them big time.
They, just like Trump and his minions are just baffooning for their followers, this is pure bullshit bravado.....and posturing.
What a bunch of fuckups...........Their arrest warrants could only be believed by someone with low intelligence....LOL
Just like the guy who went to the pizza parlor looking for Hillary's child trafficking ring headquarters in the basement..... It would be funny if it weren't so damn pathetic........
What is really really really frightening, is the millions of his followers that actually believe this shit. It's un-fathomable
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Oh yeah. Trumpworld.
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)spike jones
(1,677 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)the right to celebrate their religion as they wanted, and the founders kept the abusive powers of state and church from Europe, from making its ugly path here into the US. Amazing how ignorant a lot of these people, who certainly exercise their rights, but ignore that of others.
spike jones
(1,677 posts)and turn them over to the state for punishment. You know when a sin was a crime.
BTW I think Ireland just recently got rid of their blasphemy laws.
RKP5637
(67,089 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)'No hunting, no fishing'
cstanleytech
(26,248 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)pwb
(11,252 posts)Which is almost always.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)this is just an attempt by the christofascist theocrats to intimidate, bully and attack the press and the free speech.
They don't care that they trespassed they care that they write stories that look bad....right out of the amoral pig's playbook.
generalbetrayus
(507 posts)turbinetree
(24,685 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Liberty University is a private evangelical Christian university in Lynchburg, Virginia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_University
turbinetree
(24,685 posts)aggiesal
(8,907 posts)Students can provide this information off campus.
DBoon
(22,340 posts)nt
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)cab67
(2,990 posts)It might lead to dancing.
TeamPooka
(24,210 posts)Vengeful wrath
mountain grammy
(26,600 posts)What a fucking moron!
Chrysanthemum
(188 posts)They are so incredibly stupid.
They're upset about getting press coverage of their immoral decision to reopen the so-called university. So what do they do? Something that guarantees more press coverage of their immoral decision to reopen the so-called university! Brilliant!
I guess both their legal and public relations staff got their degrees at this so-called university, or another one like it.
Greg K
(599 posts)progressoid
(49,952 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)I see the words "Commonwealth of Virginia" at the top of the pages.
Glad to hear Liberty University is going after
@NYTLiz
and the
@nytimes
and
@propublica
. It's time to make the mainstream media pay a price for their lies.
@JerryFalwellJr
https://toddstarnes.com/values/lawsuits-will-be-filed-falwell-blasts-nyt-others-over-fake-liberty-university-report/
Link to tweet
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)welfare of those around the entire campus.
underpants
(182,632 posts)Hes the one pushing the BS hospital videos.
ck4829
(35,039 posts)TygrBright
(20,755 posts)elleng
(130,769 posts)the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
Runningdawg
(4,514 posts)Chrysanthemum
(188 posts)Runningdawg
(4,514 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)So sad that the
@nytimes
@NYTLiz
@politico
and the rest of the #FakeNews would put their political agenda ahead of the truth about a public health crisis and
@LibertyU
! Thank you
@SecretsBedard
and
@dcexaminer
for exposing them!
Link to tweet
Liberty's Falwell threatens to sue New York Times for 'fake' COVID on campus report
by Paul Bedard | April 09, 2020 08:26 AM
niyad
(113,093 posts)captain jack
(316 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)volstork
(5,399 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)The Wizard
(12,536 posts)The First Amendment guarantees freedom of the press as well as religious freedom.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)They get to control who has access to their property.
localroger
(3,622 posts)You don't get to say "Oh wait, they were on my property and I don't like what they did, so they were trespassing." Unless there were actually access controls which were bypassed and signs forbidding access to non-Liberty personnel which were ignored or a specific warning ("reading the trespass act" to the individuals who are forbidden, then the access they took can't be made illegal post hoc.
Certain kinds of spaces such as sidewalks and parking lots are considered public spaces even if they are private property unless they are specially posted to warn people of their unusual status. The outdoor spaces of a university campus are generally considered open-access because that's necessary for visitors and prospective students to check the place out. Building interiors and fenced-in areas are generally regarded as private and off-limits to people who don't have a reason to be there.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)Jerry Falwell Jr. went to the University of Virginia law school.
localroger
(3,622 posts)That JFJ went to a law school means nothing. I know a guy who ran a very successful card counting team and spent a decade playing cat and mouse with casino bans. When you build something that looks like a public conveyance there are pretty strict rules about what you have to do to make it not be what it looks like. They would have a pretty good case if there was a guard shack and the reporters snuck around it to enter the campus, but if they went through and the guard waved them on the university has no case. If they depend on signage it has to be posted in a particular size and frequency to make sure you will notice it if you are innocently looking for a place to park your car or walk your dog. It would be almost impossible for a university to function with such a lockdown of external access; who would pick up the trash?
The rule of thumb for such institutions is that non-fenced outdoor spaces are open access, as are at least some areas of the Administration building where visitors can go to arrange access to other buildings and more secure areas. If the reporters were hanging out on the sidewalk interviewing students as they walked back and forth from class, it is impossible to believe the university has any kind of case against them at all.
Of course anyone can sue anyone for anything, and probably find a "magistrate" who has a LU background to sign off on the warrants, but that doesn't mean they will hold up in a higher court. My card counter friend won $150,000 on one occasion not at the tables but from a casino whose security manager decided to rough him up before letting him leave.
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)visitors must pass to enter the campus? Is the property secured by a fence or wall? Are there signs posted advising which media outlets are prohibited from entering? Do they claim tax exempt status as a Church? If you recall, the Supreme Court erroneously ruled in the Hobby Lobby case that strongly held religious beliefs supersede the law. Equating belief with fact is a strange position for any Judge, let alone the Supreme Court. Throwing the qualifier "strongly" into the decision only served to further muddy the waters, opening the door for more litigation.
rocktivity
(44,572 posts)and if so, aren't the people the spoke to equally guilty?
rocktivity
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,319 posts)rocktivity
(44,572 posts)while ON campus, then they ARE as guilty as the reporters are.
rocktivity
avebury
(10,951 posts)They should demand a trial by jury which would open up Liberty University to Discovery which might provide them with a lot more to publish.
calimary
(81,135 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,253 posts)Unless you are applying for a job at Hobby Lobby or Chick Fil A, your degree will be laughed at in the real world.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,766 posts)lark
(23,065 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,218 posts)scumbuckets....
Initech
(100,043 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,795 posts)But have a swarm of armed mercenary types around them.
bubbazero
(296 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)students or staff die of Covid-19 caught due to the reopening of the university. Virginia should charge him with 1st-degree murder.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Good luck with their hokey warrant.
no_hypocrisy
(46,038 posts)the Constitution to you?
OK, you have your fabricated "arrest warrants." What next? Who is going to take the named reporters into custody? To whom would they have to appear? Which court? Which judge? To whom would they may have to post bail for their release before their day in court (allegedly)?
All you have is a watered-down citizens' complaint. Municipal violation. That's it. Nada.
You know less about American Criminal Law than you know about The Bible. Shut up.