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Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:11 AM

Tammy Baldwin, Ron Johnson call for Postal Service to investigate undelivered absentee ballots

Source: Madison.com

U.S. Senators Tammy Baldwin and Ron Johnson are asking the Postal Service to investigate why an untold number of absentee ballots never made it to voters who didn’t want to risk contracting the COVID-19 coronavirus by going to the polls for Tuesday’s election.

Baldwin, D-Madison, and Johnson, R-Oshkosh, sent a letter Thursday to U.S. Postal Service Inspector General Tammy Whitcomb citing reported delivery failures in Appleton, Oshkosh and Fox Point Village and saying they are “concerned there may be more examples” of missing ballots.

The senators said the investigation is necessary so absentee voting procedures are “strictly and effectively followed” during upcoming elections.

Here’s what is known and unknown about the absentee ballots:

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/tammy-baldwin-ron-johnson-call-for-postal-service-to-investigate-undelivered-absentee-ballots/article_bc2e459f-f7b1-51ac-b5be-ec846a1f9c20.amp.html

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Reply Tammy Baldwin, Ron Johnson call for Postal Service to investigate undelivered absentee ballots (Original post)
Jose Garcia Apr 2020 OP
Bengus81 Apr 2020 #1
jimfields33 Apr 2020 #3
LisaL Apr 2020 #5
jimfields33 Apr 2020 #9
not fooled Apr 2020 #21
sarcasmo Apr 2020 #15
obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #16
jimfields33 Apr 2020 #20
Bengus81 Apr 2020 #28
sarcasmo Apr 2020 #30
Quackers Apr 2020 #17
jimfields33 Apr 2020 #19
gab13by13 Apr 2020 #2
jimfields33 Apr 2020 #4
safeinOhio Apr 2020 #6
gab13by13 Apr 2020 #8
safeinOhio Apr 2020 #10
Igel Apr 2020 #12
Tech Apr 2020 #7
gab13by13 Apr 2020 #11
bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #13
RandySF Apr 2020 #14
llmart Apr 2020 #22
JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #23
JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #25
Lulu KC Apr 2020 #18
turbinetree Apr 2020 #24
Historic NY Apr 2020 #26
MiniMe Apr 2020 #27
geralmar Apr 2020 #29

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:22 AM

1. Hell...I've been waiting on stamps to be delivered for eight days

Ordered through USPS to keep out of a PO line or one at the super market. This has tracking because it's supposedly being sent Priority. The tracking has said for the last two days it would be delivered by 8pm that evening. Nope,never showed up. NOW today it says something about a tracking alert.

This is just six of those small books of ten stamps,so yeah I can see how those ballots would go missing--now doubt be delivered to those people on Saturday or next Monday.

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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:55 AM

3. I wanted to order a screwdriver set from amazon yesterday

Keeps me from going out to Walmart, but it was a May 1st delivery date. I know it’s not a priority in the big picture but MAY 1st???? I didn’t bother.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:09 AM

5. I believe amazon right now is prioritizing shipments

of what it considers essential. I guess they don't consider screwdrivers as essential.
I've been ordering a lot of items from amazon (allows me not to venture out as much) with good success.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:54 AM

9. I definitely agree with prioritizing

But I thought an additional five days would be ok but close to a month? Yieks!!!

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:43 AM

21. Sometimes those extremely long delivery times

indicate the item would be sent directly by a seller overseas, in e.g. China or Hong Kong.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:45 AM

15. Amazon won't deliver non essential items. Home Depot tried charging me 45 dollars shipping


on two 27w light bulbs. Bought the same two light bulbs for twenty dollars shippign included on Ebay.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:55 AM

16. Amazon is 100% delivering non essential items

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:40 AM

20. Thanks. I'm going to try ordering anyway.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:28 PM

28. Yup....takes forever. Ordered a new Insinkerator

Took about 2.5 weeks to get here but saved the trip to HD where it was about 20.00 more.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 05:10 PM

30. When I order it shows six weeks out and ends up canceling.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:25 AM

17. I ordered boxers for myself and my 4yo son on Monday.

The delivery was scheduled to be the end of April. My boxers came in on Wednesday and my son's arrived yesterday. So it’s more likely they are overestimating delivery windows just in case.

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Response to Quackers (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:39 AM

19. Oh. Thank you

You think they are overestimating so we don’t expect next day but maybe comes much sooner then planned? I think I will try it. I’d rather not go out right now. Thank you for replying. You made my day.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:49 AM

2. I don't think the post office is to blame for this one.

You won't have to worry about the PO since it is running out of money because it has to put away benefits for workers 75 years in advance, that's money for people who haven't even been born yet.

Yeah let's get rid of the Post Office then we can kiss mail in voting goodbye.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:57 AM

4. True but they might be the only ones to get pensions

I know it’s overkill but some pensions will end due to bankruptcy and states and local won’t be able to keep up the promises. I see that happening sometime in the future.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:09 AM

6. UPS and Fedx

only charge five bucks to deliver a letter.
Section 8. Clause 7 of the US Constitution "to establish Post Offices and Post Roads"

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:49 AM

8. The Post Office and the press

are the only occupations that I believe are listed in the Constitution, and Republicans want to do away with both of them.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:56 AM

10. Publican Activist judges.

can't read plain english.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:23 AM

12. It allows Congress to designate post offices.

"Empowered" doesn't mean "required."

And "the press" isn't "reporters." It says that if you own a press, you are authorized to use it. Instead of needing a special government patent or permission to actually use it. Think of these as being like taxi "medallions", but instead of it being something up for auction it's something that individual rulers can dispense as they want--you can charge for them, but mostly it's a way of controlling who gets them. A second way of controlling presses was by saying that you could only print on approved paper--the approval cost, and might not be given. You build a press and make paper on your own, sorry, can't use either without express permission from the person you might want to print bad things about.

That could be newspapers. It can be your local photocopy machine making handbills protesting a business. It's somebody publishing a Bible or a political tract. Think of press as the thing, not the activity or the "estate".

Somewhere along the way it's come to mean "journalists"--perhaps because that's how newspapers mostly wanted it to be applied.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:35 AM

7. Republican party created the fiasco. They are to blame.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:16 AM

11. Try ordering a mask on line.

I found some fancy ones last week with designs on them that are reusable, for 8.95 from Amazon/Adinikas mask. Delivery is April 17th.
Plain masks delivery is the end of June.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:26 AM

13. Postal Regulatory Commission

controlled by Republicans. But not credible they'd be involved. If there are plumbers holding up the works in WI, it's most likely an unofficial operation to tilt the election process.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:42 AM

14. My dad has been complaining about mail delivery in Michigan.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:03 PM

22. I usually don't get much mail.

But in the past three weeks there has been suspiciously next to no mail for me and that is unusual. I'm in Michigan. I did receive that piece of shit postcard with Trump's name on it re: the virus but was what I consider campaign material. I left it in the back of my mailbox and refuse to take it out. I didn't ask to be on that mailing list.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:38 PM

25. A paragraph from an email from Rep Debbie Dingell

On a check in call yesterday there was an update from USPS and mail delivery. USPS in Michigan’s Detroit district office made the tough decision to focus on first class letters, bills and checks, and packages to ensure that essential mail would be delivered. Many mail carriers and postal workers are currently at home for their and our safety. We thank the hard-working front-line workers – including letter carriers and postal workers. We will stay on top of mail delivery issues like we always have and maintain this essential service.


So, I guess all the advertisements and catalogs are piling up somewhere. I look forward to seeing them in July or August.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:29 AM

18. The whole P.O. thing is warming up to be a giant bomb

I have missed how keeping it funded is included in stimulus package--need to get up to date on this! Yesterday we put our primary ballots out to be mailed and I had a feeling I was releasing them into a very treacherous future.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:28 PM

24. Just for the record Johnson................this is why the election went the way it did.............

and you asshole confirmed two the five federalist society POS.................it real simple if you know how to read.................. ..................

https://www.channel3000.com/supreme-court-blocks-extended-absentee-voting-in-wisconsin-primary/


so don't lay this completely on the PO, your party under John Boehner and his partner in crimes Paul Ryan, put the system in the straights it is in...............mad:

And this Johnson is what your party has being to the postal system.............

https://www.alternet.org/2011/09/3_big_lies_at_the_heart_of_republican_attacks_on_the_post_office/.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:49 PM

26. Big answer if it was a 'franked' politicians piece of crap it would...

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:58 PM

27. I had ordered some face masks from Amazon,

Amazon told me it would be May or so before it was delivered. They are due to be delivered today per the tracking.

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