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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:25 PM Apr 2020

Trump Administration Proposes Expanding Hunting And Fishing At 3 Wildlife Refuges In Colorado

Source: CBS News


April 10, 2020 at 10:21 am

(CBS4) — The Trump Administration wants to expand hunting and fishing opportunities at 97 national wildlife refuges and nine national fish hatcheries — including three national wildlife refuges in Colorado and two in New Mexico. If approved, it would be the single largest expansion of hunting and fishing opportunities by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in history.

In Colorado, the plan would expand existing migratory bird and upland game hunting to new acres and open sport fishing for the first time at the Alamosa National Wildlife Refuge. It would open moose and pronghorn hunting on acres already open to other hunting at the Browns Park National Wildlife Refuge, and expand existing migratory bird and upland game hunting to new acres at the Monte Vista National Wildlife Refuge.

In New Mexico, new proposed opportunities include expanding existing big game hunting to new acres and expanding season dates for existing migratory bird hunting at Bitter Lake National Wildlife Refuge. It also includes opening hunting for waterfowl, javelinas and feral hogs on new acres and acres already open to other hunting. Additionally, it would expand existing migratory bird, upland game, and big game hunting to new acres.

“I deeply appreciate everything sportswomen and men do for conservation and our economy, so I am delighted when we can do something to expand opportunities for them,” said Service Director Aurelia Skipwith. I hope it will help encourage the next generation of hunters and anglers to continue on this rich American tradition.”

Read more: https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/04/10/expanding-hunting-fishing-wildlife-refuges-colorado/

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Trump Administration Proposes Expanding Hunting And Fishing At 3 Wildlife Refuges In Colorado (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2020 OP
can the trump family be released into the refuges??? NRaleighLiberal Apr 2020 #1
His main reason DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #13
Yes naked and with no weapons not even a knife burrowowl Apr 2020 #20
What a dick ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #2
Going for the rural vote in Colorado and New Mexico this Fall. sop Apr 2020 #3
Agreed. n/t TheFourthMind Apr 2020 #9
+1 CrispyQ Apr 2020 #30
WTF? Newest Reality Apr 2020 #4
+ 1 nt. iluvtennis Apr 2020 #6
I wonder if Vlad Putin told him to do this when they talked today? Botany Apr 2020 #5
Just when you thought the Trump administration couldn't go any lower, it does. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #7
So now that he has BLOOD ON HIS HANDS and is puke number are rising........... turbinetree Apr 2020 #8
I have no problem with this NickB79 Apr 2020 #10
As an environmentalist for my entire adult life (almost 60yrs), I strongly disagree! pazzyanne Apr 2020 #14
If a lot of the people you've worked with belong to hunting orgs, how can you so easily dismiss them NickB79 Apr 2020 #15
Sorry, NickB79, but I cannot take your reply seriously. pazzyanne Apr 2020 #21
So hunting is okay for the elites of the environmental movement Hangingon Apr 2020 #32
Sad. pazzyanne Apr 2020 #33
It is sad Hangingon Apr 2020 #34
Could be I was using my experience to support what I said. pazzyanne Apr 2020 #36
Never claimed to be an environmentalist Hangingon Apr 2020 #37
Empty suit criticizing those who actually did something with their live. nt pazzyanne Apr 2020 #38
Never bother to argue with a narcissist. Hangingon Apr 2020 #39
Never bother to argue with a troll. nt pazzyanne Apr 2020 #40
I have heard that hunting has a negative effect on the survival of the remaining animals. Bluepinky Apr 2020 #31
He's doing it for Don Jr. so he can hunt for big game trophies, as those types of killers call it. Hotler Apr 2020 #11
I wonder if the JT Cornpone memorial skunk hunt is still on at 1600 Penn. Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #12
I guess bdamomma Apr 2020 #16
so his cs spawn can kill something? Marthe48 Apr 2020 #17
Because THAT'S what we need right now! sakabatou Apr 2020 #18
Has to be for junior, so he can shoot some beautiful defenseless animals ... pbmus Apr 2020 #19
They're called REFUGES asshole! N/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2020 #22
What do Don Jr. and Eric want to kill now? SergeStorms Apr 2020 #23
Wish they would turn their anger inward, on themselves. Bluepinky Apr 2020 #29
Hunters don't get to keep what they kill Bayard Apr 2020 #24
So if they don't get the meat or a trophy, what's the motive? Bluepinky Apr 2020 #28
Yes Bayard Apr 2020 #35
Refuge as death camp bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #25
Sickening. BusyBeingBest Apr 2020 #26
He's all about death and destruction. Bluepinky Apr 2020 #27

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
13. His main reason
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:40 PM
Apr 2020

is so that Jared can come out here and blow the living shit out of some poor buffalo........period.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. What a dick ...
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:28 PM
Apr 2020

Apparently the concept of "National Wildlife Refuge" eludes the man.

I know it's complicated, but ...

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. WTF?
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:31 PM
Apr 2020

Right now? There is a growing list of grabs and actions that are going on WHILE we are having an "all hands on deck" national and global crisis. The priorities are telling. This is turning out to be an opportunistic means of exploiting the crisis.

How about what is going to be done about the food pantries on their last legs because they are already being overwhelmed and cleaned out? That's a looming crisis in itself and its going to be very problematic when scores of people and their families begin to starve.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
5. I wonder if Vlad Putin told him to do this when they talked today?
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:37 PM
Apr 2020

This is 100% designed to piss off the lib-tards and tree huggers.

Planned distraction.

7. Just when you thought the Trump administration couldn't go any lower, it does.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:46 PM
Apr 2020

The next thing Trump will do is privatize all of the national parks, starting with the Grand Canyon.

When he's done with that, Fat Donnie will replace the Lincoln Memorial with one to himself. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if his acolytes tried to put a huge statue of their Leader on the National Mall.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
8. So now that he has BLOOD ON HIS HANDS and is puke number are rising...........
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:03 PM
Apr 2020

he now wants to create another deflection marker...............Colorado will fight this and so will New Mexico.............., this "guy" reminds of the wasting disease that elk, and mule deer have in the Rocky Mountain region.............

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
10. I have no problem with this
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:14 PM
Apr 2020

Hunting and fishing organizations, the license fees and taxes, and their members are the primary reason we still have abundant wildlife in the US. If it weren't for the millions of hunters and fishermen, tens of millions of acres of land currently in wildlife habitat protection would be cornfields and housing developments. Turkey, deer, trout, bass, and ducks would be far rarer, along with all the non-game species that share their habitat.

You still have to follow all hunting rules, regulations and seasonal restrictions on federal land.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
14. As an environmentalist for my entire adult life (almost 60yrs), I strongly disagree!
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:43 PM
Apr 2020

I have volunteered countless hours, donate mega money, and sat on several boards to protect our wild areas. We have abundant wildlife due to the hard work many, many people have put in to preserve these areas. Abundant "turkey, deer, trout, bass, and ducks" are due to people who have worked their a**es off to provide areas that provide habitat for these species. Putting hunters and fishermen in them will see those numbers plummet like a falling rock. The assumption that all hunters and fishermen obey the rules, regulations, and seasonal restrictions is naïve. America already has more than their share of poachers. Walking through wildlife habitat gives you an up close and personal view of what senseless carnage is already happening in these areas. Many of us have worked hard to leave our children and grandchildren a natural world for them to enjoy. It infuriates me to see people who so cavalierly discount work and money that has gone into providing such a future for all Americans. By the way, many of the people I have worked with over the years belong to such groups as Peasants Forever, Ducks Unlimited, etc. They will be just as anti-hunting on public lands if they are true "sportsmen".

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
15. If a lot of the people you've worked with belong to hunting orgs, how can you so easily dismiss them
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:55 PM
Apr 2020

In my neck of the woods, most of the major wildlife projects are led by hunting and fishing groups. Trout Unlimited restores riparian habitat. Pheasants Forever pays farmers to plant grasses instead of soy. Ducks Unlimited puts up wood duck houses. Every year I see more land converted to farmland and suburban sprawl, and the only guys I see consistently stepping forward to slow this are the ones in camo pants. And every hunter I know hates poachers with a passion. They are all well aware how much of a black eye they give the rest, and call the tip line whenever they need to.

If you're actively working with conservation groups founded by and supported financially by hunters and fishermen, your arguments ring hollow. Without the backing of millions of sportsmen, your impact so far would be diminished greatly. You would have worked your ass twice as hard of for a fraction of the reward.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
21. Sorry, NickB79, but I cannot take your reply seriously.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:13 PM
Apr 2020

I have expressed my personal experience with the environmental movement over 60 years. I did not "dis" hunting and fishing groups (reread my post please). I come from a hunting family and have worked with many hunting organizations represented in environmental organizations in the state of Minnesota. As far as money from hunting groups, many of the programs I have been associated are funded by private donation and some of those donations go TO the hunting groups in this area. However the hunting groups in my area do serve on environmental boards and have supported the environmental impact on hunting and fishing. These are responsible sportsmen/ women. As far as working harder, I will put my volunteer time up against anyone. I have volunteered hundreds of hours over my lifetime to environmental endeavors as well as working full time. I have also volunteered with youth development groups such as Girl Scouts,USA, Boy Scouts,USA, and church youth and adult programs. And in my spare time I have supported political action activities/ groups. I have no a** left to give at my age but I still have a voice.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
33. Sad.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

You apparently did not read my posts. Back in the 1950s and 1960s there was nothing elitist about it. Hunting put meat on the table. You can do hunting responsibly or irresponsibly. I joined the environmental movement in 1965 when I became aware of Rachel Carlson and her campaign against DDT. Have been very active in environmental education and projects ever since. As for hunting elitists, look up Pheasants Forever or Ducks Unlimited and find out what work they do. And you?

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
34. It is sad
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 04:24 PM
Apr 2020

I reread your posts and it has not changed my response. It could be I missed something amidst all your back patting. Could have happened.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
36. Could be I was using my experience to support what I said.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 07:35 PM
Apr 2020

People who have no experience simply criticize those who do. Why don't you post your experience in this rather than calling out people who have spent their lives working with the problem? I'm waiting.

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
37. Never claimed to be an environmentalist
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:15 PM
Apr 2020

Just put off by your pomposity. You give yourself a lot of credit. Wonder if you ever saved anything. At any rate, I will not change your mind and you will not change mine.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
31. I have heard that hunting has a negative effect on the survival of the remaining animals.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:31 AM
Apr 2020

Hunters target the largest and strongest animals, which weakens the gene pool of the remaining animals and disrupts the balance of power and resources.

Hotler

(11,412 posts)
11. He's doing it for Don Jr. so he can hunt for big game trophies, as those types of killers call it.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:15 PM
Apr 2020

Most likely will hunt from the safety of a helicopter, you know, for the sport.

Ford_Prefect

(7,876 posts)
12. I wonder if the JT Cornpone memorial skunk hunt is still on at 1600 Penn.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:24 PM
Apr 2020

Someone needs to do something about the stench from that infestation IMHO.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
23. What do Don Jr. and Eric want to kill now?
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:04 PM
Apr 2020

There must be some animal that lives in those areas that "the boys" haven't killed yet. Bighorn Sheep? The only method for those two wastrels to feel like "real men" is killing a defenseless animal. Fucking worthless morons.

Bayard

(22,048 posts)
24. Hunters don't get to keep what they kill
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 01:03 AM
Apr 2020

It must be immediately sent for processing, then shipped to food banks.

No trophies.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
28. So if they don't get the meat or a trophy, what's the motive?
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:19 AM
Apr 2020

Is it the thrill of slaughtering a living creature?

Bayard

(22,048 posts)
35. Yes
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 05:05 PM
Apr 2020

Plenty of people like that. Much better than the meat left to rot, and another head on some moron's wall.

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