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Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:02 PM Apr 2020

French officials report heart incidents in experimental coronavirus treatments with hydroxychloroqui

Source: The Hill


BY TAL AXELROD - 04/10/20 09:10 PM EDT

France reported dozens of heart incidents linked to an anti-malaria drug President Trump has hyped as a possible treatment for the coronavirus.

Data released by France’s drug safety agency showed 43 cases of heart incidents linked to hydroxychloroquine, underscoring the risk of providing unproven treatments to COVID-19 patients.

“This initial assessment shows that the risks, in particular cardiovascular, associated with these treatments are very present and potentially increased in COVID-19 patients. Almost all of the declarations come from health establishments,” the agency said. “These drugs should only be used in hospitals, under close medical supervision.”

France has recorded 100 health incidents and four fatalities linked to experimental drugs for those with the coronavirus since late March. Three other patients had to be revived, and 82 incidents were considered “serious.”


Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/492317-french-officials-report-heart-incidents-in-experimental

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French officials report heart incidents in experimental coronavirus treatments with hydroxychloroqui (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2020 OP
Trump: "Take it -what have you got to lose?" Marie Marie Apr 2020 #1
They've known about antibacterial and antiviral properties Warpy Apr 2020 #12
+1 ck4829 Apr 2020 #23
French enid602 Apr 2020 #2
They're all DEMOCRATS!! Grokenstein Apr 2020 #10
TY SheltieLover Apr 2020 #3
Look, some people are just going to have to die underpants Apr 2020 #4
John 15:13 according to t'Rump Yonnie3 Apr 2020 #5
Would that be John Barron 15:13? Marie Marie Apr 2020 #14
bigly! n/t Yonnie3 Apr 2020 #18
Who knew that people would suffer mercuryblues Apr 2020 #6
My 6 year old granddaugher whom I cannot touch or hug told me yesterday that she heard on the efhmc Apr 2020 #7
ZOMG!!! Who could have predicted!!!! RockRaven Apr 2020 #8
Yeah but Trump made money, gab13by13 Apr 2020 #9
More about this below: CountAllVotes Apr 2020 #11
Perhaps Trump could take a hefty dose or twelve, to prove to investors that it's safe Orrex Apr 2020 #13
We already know that he is a rat so why not be a Lab Rat? Marie Marie Apr 2020 #15
It would be first useful thing he's done in his entire life Orrex Apr 2020 #20
Sounds fair ck4829 Apr 2020 #24
As John Oliver said last week - "If Trump really likes something, that should be a red flag!". Initech Apr 2020 #16
+1 ck4829 Apr 2020 #25
I have said it over and over and it keeps getting proven in new ways - he is killing us for profit! lark Apr 2020 #17
Here's some more info on heart damage and Covid19 GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #19
I'd still try it if my prognosis was bad. But i dont see reason to take it early on. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #21
K&R ck4829 Apr 2020 #22

Warpy

(111,249 posts)
12. They've known about antibacterial and antiviral properties
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:09 PM
Apr 2020

of this drug family for decades. I no longer have access to a medical library and searches online have been clear as mud, but I have a sneaking suspicion that using it for other conditions has shown those properties are dose dependent and if you get the dose that high, you risk poisoning the patient to death.

The fact that they're safe and effective at low dose for autoimmune disease doesn't mean all dosages are safe. He won't lose his investment, between people with autoimmune disease and those with susceptible strains of malaria, the drug will always have a steady demand. He just won't be allowed to make a killing because doctors will end the studies quickly and publish their data.

Antiviral drug cocktails should show more promise, but again, doses have to be high to kill this little bastard.

enid602

(8,615 posts)
2. French
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:06 PM
Apr 2020

Well you know the French are big time never trumpers. They’re as bad as the WTO and the Chinese put together.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
10. They're all DEMOCRATS!!
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:43 PM
Apr 2020

From the planet Skyron-12 in the constellation of Two Corinthians!
Trying to make God Emperor Littlehands look bad!

underpants

(182,778 posts)
4. Look, some people are just going to have to die
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:07 PM
Apr 2020

Wall Street needs us.

I'm being crudely sarcastic there.

Yonnie3

(17,434 posts)
5. John 15:13 according to t'Rump
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:11 PM
Apr 2020

Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for a CEO's bonus.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
7. My 6 year old granddaugher whom I cannot touch or hug told me yesterday that she heard on the
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:22 PM
Apr 2020

news that there was a drug which would stop the virus. She seemed so happy about it that I did not have the heart to tell her the truth.

gab13by13

(21,313 posts)
9. Yeah but Trump made money,
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

How many millions of doses of the drug did he/we already buy? Wasn't he shipping it off to military just to take as a precaution?

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
11. More about this below:
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

From a blog I follow that I believe is out of Scotland:

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CoVID breakfast. More parasite drugs to the Rescue Beware.

Now there was a paper that another anti-parasite agent maybe useful. The FDA-approved Drug Ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro.Caly L, Druce JD, Catton MG, Jans DA, Wagstaff KM.mAntiviral Res. 2020 Apr 3:104787. doi: 10.1016/j.antiviral.2020.104787. [Epub ahead of print]

However, before you get your doses of sheep-dip read this.

I know that you like to get on the internet and get a supply of the latest treatments, because that is what you can expertly do. You have had years of practice of finding treatments on the internet that you can get without dealing with your neuro….Come on…Of course you do this! How many of you are still having 30 2mg biotin tablets for breakfast?

Ivermectin is all over the place it is used on millions of animals. We have already heard of a death from someone taking the anti-malaria drug used to clean aquariums. Don’t get a Darwin Award because you have been down to the pet shop.


Whilst ivermectin has been used in millions of animals that have taken this drug as it is used to kill parasites like mites that live on the surface of people and even pinworms and it has also been used by millions of people to treat parasitic helminthic worm infections that get in your eyes, if this drug had been tested in a collie dogs and a certain type of mouse. This drug would never have been invented. It could have killed “Lassie“

The drug is called ivermectin and whilst it can do many things, one thing it can do is kill nerves. It appears by targeting a chloride channel (GABA) When it was given to a mouse strain called the MDR-1 mice, it killed them because of toxicity to the nerves. In Collie Dogs there were neurological problems and I once here a story of a human who was working at a Pot farm who got neurological problems. They were controlling pot mites with avermectin a close relative of ivermectin. !!!!

https://multiple-sclerosis-research.org/2020/04/covid-breakfast-more-parasite-drugs-to-the-rescue-beware/

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This is the drug that killed one of my cats and has permanently sickened one of the others that was alive during her "treatments" as I was told by the greedy veterinarian and the drug co. that I MUST use this on all of the cats I had at that time as well, and so I did. The one that was also sickened is still alive and has been permanently injured by this garbage drug.

Throw in the heart "incidents" as mentioned in the research from France, this = genocide!

As it mentions, ivermectin is all over the place used as a treatment for head lice, a "natural" pesticide on specific "organic crops" (lettuce, oranges and strawberries to name just a few) and also cannabis!

BUYER BEWARE!




Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
15. We already know that he is a rat so why not be a Lab Rat?
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 12:38 AM
Apr 2020

Let him put his money where his mouth is.

Initech

(100,064 posts)
16. As John Oliver said last week - "If Trump really likes something, that should be a red flag!".
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 01:51 AM
Apr 2020

This will not end well.

lark

(23,094 posts)
17. I have said it over and over and it keeps getting proven in new ways - he is killing us for profit!
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 08:18 AM
Apr 2020

His person profit, that is. He personally owns and Trump Foundation is invested in the firm that produces this drug. Take it, he says, who cares if you die, I will profit and that is paramount! Of course he revels in the deaths of the working class and poor, more social security and medicare money for him to steal for himself first and his fascist oligarch friends 2nd.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
21. I'd still try it if my prognosis was bad. But i dont see reason to take it early on.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 06:37 PM
Apr 2020

Some doctors have reported success; some people have gone public with it. So i'm not going to tell people "No, dont do it".

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