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Marcuse

(7,446 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:03 AM Apr 2020

Trump Lashes Out at Fauci Amid Criticism of Slow Virus Response

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump publicly signaled his frustration on Sunday with Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease expert, after the doctor said more lives could have been saved from the coronavirus if the country had been shut down earlier.

Mr. Trump reposted a Twitter message that said “Time to #FireFauci” as he rejected criticism of his slow initial response to the pandemic that has now killed more than 22,000 people in the United States. The president privately has been irritated at times with Dr. Fauci, but the Twitter post was the most explicit he has been in letting that show publicly.

The message Mr. Trump retweeted came from a former Republican congressional candidate. “Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could’ve saved more lives,” said the tweet by DeAnna Lorraine, who got less than 2 percent of the vote in an open primary against Speaker Nancy Pelosi last month. “Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US at large. Time to #Fire Fauci.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/trump-fauci-coronavirus.html



The Doctor may soon be spending more time with his family.
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Trump Lashes Out at Fauci Amid Criticism of Slow Virus Response (Original Post) Marcuse Apr 2020 OP
Not to derail your topic but where the hell did you get that bullshit "Law 1" graphic? ZZenith Apr 2020 #1
The personnel policy of the Trump Administration, although he doesn't follow all of them himself: Marcuse Apr 2020 #4
Horrifying yet necessary reading. Grokenstein Apr 2020 #7
I went to the link. It's porn for the Ayn Rand fan. LOL. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2020 #30
I think it should be titled: Rule #1 for a kiss ass and bootlicker. olegramps Apr 2020 #21
If indeed he doesn't take any responsibility, then why does it matter what Dr. Fauci says? Blue Owl Apr 2020 #2
Truth is not allowed in the Trump administration. nt SunSeeker Apr 2020 #3
Fauci Admitted What Everyone With An IQ Over 20 Knows DanieRains Apr 2020 #5
An excellent article, BTW, worth reading in full -- it debunks all the bunk n/t progree Apr 2020 #6
Why wait to get fired? Demobrat Apr 2020 #8
Fauci is concerned about the American public more than his career, it seems to me. (nt) klook Apr 2020 #10
All the more reason Demobrat Apr 2020 #35
Old Ottoman Empire saying: dobleremolque Apr 2020 #9
Our Constitution was created by people that didn't subscribe to that thinking mdbl Apr 2020 #26
trumps lashing out against those that speak the truth duforsure Apr 2020 #11
He's as good as gone. budkin Apr 2020 #12
Yikes! Mike Nelson Apr 2020 #13
Meet Deanna Lorraine (RW nutjob/Corona conspiracist) no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #14
Two different languages: Trump speaks Propaganda, Fauci speaks Pandemic bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #15
It's all about controlling the narrative with Trump, gab13by13 Apr 2020 #16
Trump may well be doing all he can Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2020 #24
'Earlier intervention could have saved lives' really sets Trump off bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #17
"Keep Fauci, fire TRUMP" Scarsdale Apr 2020 #18
Fire him Trump and watch what approval rating you have crater........ Bengus81 Apr 2020 #19
Trump doing what Trump does best. SergeStorms Apr 2020 #20
I like to chide headline writers for... RobertDevereaux Apr 2020 #22
I'm 100% sure if he fires Fauci, bluestarone Apr 2020 #23
And lets not forget what happened last night on sixty minutes, with this Navaaro jerk............. turbinetree Apr 2020 #25
Fauci went back in time 15 years and punked Trump! flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #27
He's always been punking Trump, and if he fires him then all hell will break loose turbinetree Apr 2020 #28
Based on past experience, if trump fires Fauci, his zombie followers will turn on Fauci. flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #29
I agree, they / we need that pandemic agency re-opened and staffed, and we need to get out and vote turbinetree Apr 2020 #31
fire chump . fire chump. fire chump. n/t AllaN01Bear Apr 2020 #32
Fauci is now Public Enemy #1 with trump bumpkins Yeehah Apr 2020 #33
Flattening the curve - Rob Rogers klook Apr 2020 #36
And lo, the retweeting doth began (reposting from locked thread) Lord Ludd Apr 2020 #34
Trying to get rid of his last link to sanity. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #37

Marcuse

(7,446 posts)
4. The personnel policy of the Trump Administration, although he doesn't follow all of them himself:
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:25 AM
Apr 2020

LAW 4: ALWAYS SAY LESS THAN NECESSARY.
• The more you say, the less impressive and in-control you seem to be and the higher the chance that you’d say something foolish.
• Powerful people tend to say little. This makes them impressive and intimidating; people can’t guess what they’re thinking and hang on to their every word and reaction. Short answers and silences also put people on the defensive; when they try to fill the silence by talking, they give away useful information.



[link:https://readingraphics.com/book-summary-the-48-laws-of-power/|

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
7. Horrifying yet necessary reading.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:59 AM
Apr 2020

The only way to defeat the bullshitters is to understand their game. One doesn't have to play but one has to know the rules.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
5. Fauci Admitted What Everyone With An IQ Over 20 Knows
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:32 AM
Apr 2020

He told the truth when pressed after tons of deflections.

Yes Trump them corpses are pretty much your fault.

Suck on that.

Demobrat

(8,960 posts)
8. Why wait to get fired?
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:12 AM
Apr 2020

The guy should just up and quit. It’s not like he would be lacking for offers.

Demobrat

(8,960 posts)
35. All the more reason
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:48 PM
Apr 2020

To get out from under the orange buffoon and into a situation where he didn’t have to worry about offending him. He could probably help more people on the talk show circuit than where he is now

People WANT to hear from him

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
26. Our Constitution was created by people that didn't subscribe to that thinking
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 09:56 AM
Apr 2020

Unfortunately, the Amurkan people are a bunch of idiots and cowards that allowed Bif to take over the government.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
11. trumps lashing out against those that speak the truth
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 04:00 AM
Apr 2020

Has always been a pattern from trump. He then picks a fight , makes false claims by lying , then exaggerates the lies to use to fired them with. Anyone who doesn't promote him over the truth is fair game for him. I expect rumps false claims against him are about to happen , and trump will have others doing the same thing.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
13. Yikes!
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 04:28 AM
Apr 2020

... goes against the Party Line. I watched some FOX "News" this weekend and they are all in with the "President Trump acted early and boldly, saving lives" theme. They show carefully selected clips of Pelosi implying the Corona-virus was not a threat. The good doctor is not going along with the program.

no_hypocrisy

(46,025 posts)
14. Meet Deanna Lorraine (RW nutjob/Corona conspiracist)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:41 AM
Apr 2020
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/failed-congressional-candidate-deanna-lorraines-new-crusade-coronavirus-conspiracy-theories/

DeAnna Lorraine, a right-wing activist who unsuccessfully ran in the Mar. 3 California primary to challenge House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is now pushing new conspiracy theories about COVID-19, promoting the hashtags #coronavirustruth and #filmyourhospital.

On Sunday, Lorraine filmed outside two hospitals in Los Angeles and found them quiet—which she took as a sign that the hospitals and mainstream media are engaged in a hoax, rather than a simpler alternative explanation, which is that hospitals aren’t allowing any visitors to try to protect their patients and prevent further spread of the virus.

“Let’s get #FilmYourHospital trending,” Lorraine tweeted Sunday afternoon. As of early Monday morning, that message had been retweeted more than 15,000 times and people were taking her up on the challenge, filming quiet hospital parking lots as if they were revealing yet another mainstream media plot. The hashtag has also attracted outrage from medical professionals and others who are warning that this kind of disinformation is threatening people’s lives.

Lorraine was back at it on Monday morning, tweeting messages like “I’m sure we would all like the actual #Coronavirustruth” and “How many people do you personally know with #COVID19.” She asserted that, “The FDA has never been interested in cures or safety.”

-more-

bucolic_frolic

(43,054 posts)
15. Two different languages: Trump speaks Propaganda, Fauci speaks Pandemic
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:46 AM
Apr 2020

Took me awhile to realize Fauci was steering between reality and Trump's desire while in fear of losing his job.

This is no way to run a government. Trump must go.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
16. It's all about controlling the narrative with Trump,
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 07:46 AM
Apr 2020

I don't know how many times I have heard Trump supporters say that Trump did all that he could. Trump has been repeating that narrative over and over again at his virus rallies. His 1 claim to fame is sealing the border with China which also was a lie, 40,000 people came here from China, some from Wuhan, after Trump "sealed" the border.

Fauci is working on Trump's virus team and he isn't following the talking points which usually means certain firing. The problem for Trump is that Fauci is very popular and he is weighing if canning him will be politically positive with his base. If he fires Fauci he is toast.

Trump should stick to blaming China, our governors, our states, Obama, Hillary will be next, because Trump is boxed in a corner and there are few good ways out.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
24. Trump may well be doing all he can
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 09:39 AM
Apr 2020

Given that not only is he stupid, ignorant, narcissistic and corrupt, but he is also incompetent.

bucolic_frolic

(43,054 posts)
17. 'Earlier intervention could have saved lives' really sets Trump off
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 07:55 AM
Apr 2020

Tell everyone, make a bumpersticker, tweet, social media, scream. This really rattles Trump.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. "Keep Fauci, fire TRUMP"
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 08:01 AM
Apr 2020

This will go against the grain for the gop. They support incompetence 100%. They are not immune, maybe if one of their family members gets the virus, they will see things in a different light? Nah, that would make them human, and THAT is not the gop way. Besides, THEY have their Cadillac insurance. That saved the vile Rand Paul.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
20. Trump doing what Trump does best.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 08:17 AM
Apr 2020

Lashing out. Unfortunately the corona virus doesn't give one tiny shit how much Trump lashes out against anything. Trump is oblivious to the reality of this situation, so he'll still be lashing out as a private citizen from Mar-ma-lardo (or hopefully, prison) next January.

RobertDevereaux

(1,847 posts)
22. I like to chide headline writers for...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 09:14 AM
Apr 2020

...using any power words when describing the words or deeds of this fake bully.

Never “lashes out,” but rather “wet-noodles out.”

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
28. He's always been punking Trump, and if he fires him then all hell will break loose
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 10:54 AM
Apr 2020

and he knows it..................I think.............. because every time he does this stuff he first comes out and says X should be fired, and then while he is on his golden toilet he does it...........he just doesn't care, his ego is so big that he cannot let someone get more air time than him............and he is "always right, always"...........

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
29. Based on past experience, if trump fires Fauci, his zombie followers will turn on Fauci.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:12 AM
Apr 2020

I wish there would be fall-out, but there won't, not on the right anyway.

I think the only upside would be that Joe Biden could hire Fauci and start a REAL national response plan. Work with the Governors, and show everybody what it would look like if we had a responsible, competent president with an actual, coordinated national response plan. In a few weeks the deaths in the southern states will start ramping up, and maybe then the trump followers (some of them anyway) will get a clue and vote in their own best interest.

Yeehah

(4,568 posts)
33. Fauci is now Public Enemy #1 with trump bumpkins
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 11:53 AM
Apr 2020

How DARE the stupid doctor criticize DEAR LEADER!?!

Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
34. And lo, the retweeting doth began (reposting from locked thread)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:01 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:19 PM - Edit history (1)

And the retweeting begat the tweet-firing
And the tweet-firing begat the Daily Briefing
And the Daily Briefing begat the lying
And the lying begat the denying
That he kneweth well the man.

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