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SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:28 AM Sep 2012

After Complaint, Miss. Man Allowed to Change Name

Source: ABCNews.com

A Mississippi man has taken his wife's last name after the ACLU complained he was told by state officials that he would need a court order to do so because it was not traditional.

Robert Everhart, 28, of Pascagoula, born Robert McCarthy, changed his last name on his driver's license Wednesday by using his marriage certificate, as many women do in taking their husband's last name.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Mississippi sent a letter to Mississippi Department of Public Safety Commissioner Albert Santa Cruz on Tuesday, saying the agency was violating state and federal law.

DPS spokesman Warren Strain said Tuesday that Everhart's request was unusual, and employees at driver's license stations were operating under an old practice. He said the employees were informed that men can use marriage certificates to change their names, just like women do.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/complaint-miss-man-allowed-change-17329753



A true Southern gentleman.
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After Complaint, Miss. Man Allowed to Change Name (Original Post) SunSeeker Sep 2012 OP
Ah, Pascagoula. My home town. Some good people there. nolabear Sep 2012 #1
Indeed. You can't do better than a sweet Southern drawl coupled with a progressive mind. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #3
Why thank y'all. nolabear Sep 2012 #4
Well at least they corrected themselves quickly. David__77 Sep 2012 #2
Wait, so now she is Mrs. Man? jberryhill Sep 2012 #5
Hahaha JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #10
Why is it that its always women who has to change, but men are suppose to remain the same? jonesgirl Sep 2012 #6
Patriarchy; sexism. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #7
+1 jonesgirl Sep 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bamacrat Sep 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Sep 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author bamacrat Sep 2012 #23
Traditionally, men have better last names. Bucky Sep 2012 #15
Since all of our last names are from men originally,..... efhmc Sep 2012 #20
Because marriages were traditionally patrilineal to insure dynastic succession. Sirveri Sep 2012 #26
This used to happen fairly often when the wife's family was rich and the husband's was poor. dimbear Sep 2012 #9
Oliver Cromwell, for instance Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #24
In Quebec, I believe it's a mandatory hyphenated name OnlinePoker Sep 2012 #11
Actually, in Quebec FlaGranny Sep 2012 #13
Sounds like Venezuela. You keep your birth name, but kids traditionally get the dad's Bucky Sep 2012 #16
Italy too... WilmywoodNCparalegal Sep 2012 #21
Oh my! FlaGranny Sep 2012 #12
My husband took my last name LittleGirl Sep 2012 #14
Wow, and I just recently read about Oregon's name change laws, which Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #17
I have stongly mixed feelings about the name McCarthy slackmaster Sep 2012 #18
"Not traditional"??? Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #25
When my daughter got married she kept her maiden name much to Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #27
I took my wife's name as well Paulie Sep 2012 #28
I am changing my last name to Brat. n/t babydollhead Sep 2012 #29
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Wait, so now she is Mrs. Man?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:51 AM
Sep 2012

Or is it his wife who is now Mrs. Miss Man?

I'm confused, so I'm alerting on the OP.

jonesgirl

(157 posts)
6. Why is it that its always women who has to change, but men are suppose to remain the same?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:58 AM
Sep 2012

Traditions change, and just because the man changes his name after marriage, doesn't make him any less of a man. It will probably make it harder for future relatives to search their ancestry, mainly because the search begins with the last name of the man (usually stays constant). Whereas for women, it's hard searching ancestry because the constant change of the last name being changed due to marriage.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. Patriarchy; sexism.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:16 AM
Sep 2012

And I agree, the decision of who changes their name, if anyone, should be up to the couple, and based on the couple's private reasons. In this guy's case, his wife was the last of the Everharts, and he wasn't particularly enamored with being a McCarthy. And yes, a man changing his name after marriage doesn't make him any less of a man. In fact, Mr. Everhart is one fine male specimen:



http://www.sunherald.com/2012/09/26/4210587/pascagoula-man-needs-aclus-help.html

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efhmc

(14,725 posts)
20. Since all of our last names are from men originally,.....
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:12 AM
Sep 2012

As I always tell people both of my last names were/are from men. I offered to change my daughters last names to Ellendaughter but that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
26. Because marriages were traditionally patrilineal to insure dynastic succession.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:51 PM
Sep 2012

Occasionally to preserve title a matrilineal marriage would be granted, but that was fairly rare. It's basically a legacy holdover from 1000 years ago. Nowadays folks really don't care all the much about things like that.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
9. This used to happen fairly often when the wife's family was rich and the husband's was poor.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:22 AM
Sep 2012

Keep one eye on the inheritance, it comes in handy eventually.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
24. Oliver Cromwell, for instance
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:20 PM
Sep 2012

who would properly have been Williams if his great-great-grandfather hadn't taken the name of "Cromwell" after his uncle Thomas (who was Henry VIII's Lord Chancellor).

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
13. Actually, in Quebec
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:01 AM
Sep 2012

both partners keep their original name, neither takes the name of the other. It's the law, I believe for the last 20 or 30 years or so.

A thought - I wonder whose name the children take? I'll have to ask my friends from Quebec.

WilmywoodNCparalegal

(2,654 posts)
21. Italy too...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:32 AM
Sep 2012

My mom is legally known by her first name and last name with the addition of 'married to [dad's last name]' and my sister and I have my dad's last name, though we could have technically had both last names as it is done in many nations including Mexico, Central and South America.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
12. Oh my!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:59 AM
Sep 2012

All I can say, as a person who has been working on my family's genealogy, I pity the poor folks 100 years from now trying to do the same.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
14. My husband took my last name
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:33 AM
Sep 2012

when we got married in Dec 06. His name was freakishly long and hard to pronounce. I struggled with it.

My husband changed it immediately after we married. You can also change your name when you become a citizen in this country. You just put in the name change on the application forms and they will change it when you are sworn in.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Wow, and I just recently read about Oregon's name change laws, which
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:22 AM
Sep 2012

sure aren't dictating who takes whose name, the article mentioned that a newish but growing trend for new married couples is the taking of an entirely new name, not his, not hers, a brand new family name. Sounds like that would cause blown gaskets in Mississippi!

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
27. When my daughter got married she kept her maiden name much to
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:22 PM
Sep 2012

her husband's dismay. But now he's used to it...so is his family. I'm glad she did as I like her name and didn't particularly like his.

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