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Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:00 AM Apr 2020

U.S. Republicans warn coronavirus aid program running out of cash

Source: Reuters

APRIL 14, 2020 / 10:54 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

David Morgan, Susan Cornwell
3 MIN READ

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans in the U.S. Senate and the Trump administration on Tuesday warned that a key program to help small businesses survive the coronavirus pandemic was running out of money, pressuring Democrats to agree on an emergency infusion of aid.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell warned that the $349 billion Paycheck Protection Program could run out of money this week unless Democrats agree to let a Republican bill adding $250 billion in forgivable loans pass by unanimous consent.

Democrats favor the $250 billion infusion but want broader legislation that would ensure PPP financing for minority-owned and rural businesses, and add assistance for hospitals, state and local governments and the poor. Republicans oppose the Democratic measure.

“There is no time to insist on sweeping renegotiations or ultimatums about other policies,” McConnell, the top Senate Republican, said in a statement. “Clean funding for worker pay in a crisis should not be controversial.”



Read more: https://in.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-usa-congress/u-s-republicans-warn-coronavirus-aid-program-running-out-of-cash-idINKCN21X0D1?rpc=401&

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U.S. Republicans warn coronavirus aid program running out of cash (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2020 OP
Has any DU business owners gotten help from this program? Last I read, small Tech Apr 2020 #1
I filed, received a number and was told i wouldnt get an email about it. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #13
Oh, you need money for small business? Repeal the Postal Service pension provisions and greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #2
And open up the ACA to new enrollment... Rollo Apr 2020 #4
Let's get an accounting of where all this money went. NBachers Apr 2020 #3
+1000000 pandr32 Apr 2020 #5
Another +1000000 Sugar Smack Apr 2020 #19
This first... angrychair Apr 2020 #26
No helping business unless you help individuals with at least JCMach1 Apr 2020 #6
Dear Mitch, cstanleytech Apr 2020 #7
They Had Better Cave To Madame Speaker Then, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #8
Hurry up and print more money then, and send us a check! Whats the problem? Baclava Apr 2020 #9
No shit! Nacht Owl Apr 2020 #10
They've stuffed so much money up their god damn asses that you'd think they couldn't cram any more, NBachers Apr 2020 #11
No, you're ok. Just wish you wouldn't tavernier Apr 2020 #21
Spot on! 2naSalit Apr 2020 #24
Trump and the GOP duforsure Apr 2020 #12
"forgivable loans" bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #14
The money that was to go to small businesses Igel Apr 2020 #20
"There is no time to insist on sweeping renegotiations...." "Why?" you ask. Because.... mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #15
Just have MF45 divert some more money from the Pentagon/wall. sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #16
Going Postal? moonseller66 Apr 2020 #17
GOP investigate this!!! neohippie Apr 2020 #18
Time for a Bake Sale at the Pentagon! McKim Apr 2020 #22
Time to cut taxes on the rich again. :sarcasm: nt raccoon Apr 2020 #23
I'm self-employed/small business Bayard Apr 2020 #25
redistributing wealth is what they do best. stillcool Apr 2020 #27

Tech

(1,769 posts)
1. Has any DU business owners gotten help from this program? Last I read, small
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:15 AM
Apr 2020

businesses were having difficulties accessing the benefit.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
13. I filed, received a number and was told i wouldnt get an email about it.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:53 AM
Apr 2020

And nothing since. But its been about a week or so, so I really didnt expect an answer this quick anyway.
No one i know has said anything about getting anything, but i dont know how many have filed

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. Oh, you need money for small business? Repeal the Postal Service pension provisions and
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:36 AM
Apr 2020

fund the Postal Service through 2030.

Thanks.

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
26. This first...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:27 PM
Apr 2020

Seems interesting that small businesses, real small businesses, are not getting that money.

I would bet "small businesses" that are trump supporters are getting a lot of that money.

cstanleytech

(26,243 posts)
7. Dear Mitch,
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:18 AM
Apr 2020

You have fucked the american people more than enough so if you want more taxpayer money for businesses (most of whom do not even pay their workers a wage they can live on let alone save enough for retirement) so if you want more money now you better be prepared to make an honest and fair deal for a change.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
8. They Had Better Cave To Madame Speaker Then, Ma'am
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:27 AM
Apr 2020

And vote for measures demanded by the House that McConnell has sidelined.

Small business owners are by and large a Republican constituency. There are exceptions of course, just as there are older white men who voted for Mrs. Clinton. But by and large, that is a vociferously Republican constituency. It should get nothing till Republicans give in, and if many go to the wall, that is just the breaks for electing shit-heels to office. I have only a certain amount of sympathy, and there are many others with superior claims upon it than those of small business owners bankrupted by the intransigent determination of Senate Republicans to refuse adequate assistance to working people and medical personnel.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

 

Nacht Owl

(66 posts)
10. No shit!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:02 AM
Apr 2020

Gee, I wonder if giving over half the money to obscenely-rich companies and individuals kinda/sorta maybe has something to do with it?

NBachers

(17,082 posts)
11. They've stuffed so much money up their god damn asses that you'd think they couldn't cram any more,
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:10 AM
Apr 2020

but the black hole of their souls has bottomless ravenous aching hunger and capacity. These motherfuckers are damaged beyond redemption.

Sorry, it's the late night scotch talking. Let me know if I've been amiss.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
12. Trump and the GOP
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:16 AM
Apr 2020

Are stiffing the American people and small businesses, just like trump does to contractors. We paid the money into the treasury only to watch trump and the gop manipulate it into the donors and their pockets, and now claim they are running out of money. Reverse the tax scam bill giving the likes of Walmart family a billion dollar refund yearly. trump screwing over many of his own supporters should wake them up now, while they're being forced to go back to work while a pandemic is still actively attacking us. trump and the gop lying and policies now are turning this country a lot bluer.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
14. "forgivable loans"
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:31 AM
Apr 2020

Not much of a loan if forgivable. Businesses use this to emerge unscathed, while people can't pay bills. Would have been cheaper to just write checks to all adults for 3 months so they could pay bills and keep business cash flowing.

Igel

(35,275 posts)
20. The money that was to go to small businesses
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 09:23 AM
Apr 2020

to keep people on their payroll was forged as forgivable loans.

The business takes out the loan. Then, if they get their paperwork all worked out and meet all the conditions--something like no more than 10% taken for expenses, funding their employees at the right level, etc.--the loan is forgiven.

This money does absolutely nothing for employees except to keep them on the payroll, all of it, except a measly 90% or so, goes to business owners.

Yeah, that's what people are saying.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,318 posts)
15. "There is no time to insist on sweeping renegotiations...." "Why?" you ask. Because....
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:42 AM
Apr 2020
Bailout Is Windfall For Wealthy Real Estate Investors

April 15, 2020

From opinion columnist Dana Milbank:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) have insisted that Congress spend another $250 billion on small businesses devastated by the pandemic, but they refuse to “renegotiate unrelated programs” from last month’s emergency coronavirus bill. What are they afraid of?

Well, maybe it’s this: As the dust settles on the $2.2 trillion legislation, it has become clear that one of its largest provisions, a $170 billion tax giveaway, appears to be tailor-made for the benefit of wealthy real estate investors such as President Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is running one of Trump’s coronavirus task forces.

The giveaway, primarily to real estate investors and hedge funds, is larger than the total amount in the legislation for hospitals ($100 billion) and for relief for all state and local governments ($150 billion). Worse, the bonanza for these millionaires and billionaires has little to do with the coronavirus: It lets them offset losses not just from 2020 but from 2018 and 2019, before the pandemic.

Read the full column.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
17. Going Postal?
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 08:09 AM
Apr 2020

Sooner or later, someone who has lost everything maybe even including a loved one because of trump is going to decide when they have nothing left, they have nothing to lose. But this time instead of taking it out on their fellow Americans, they will search for those who caused the problem...right or wrong.

I'm thinking the Tea Partiers from 2010 once they realize what's been done to them after they supported those who caused this mess.

Hopefully those who tried to help won't be the ones these people choose.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
18. GOP investigate this!!!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 08:18 AM
Apr 2020

Perhaps the GOP should investigate why the last pandemic spending bill gives more money away to wealthy real estate investors, like Kushner and Trump that it did to hospitals and state and local government. Why are we giving away money to real estate investors in this crisis?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/trump-kushner-could-reap-pandemic-windfall/

Well, maybe it’s this: As the dust settles on the $2.2 trillion legislation, it has become clear that one of its largest provisions, a $170 billion tax giveaway, appears to be tailor-made for the benefit of wealthy real estate investors such as President Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is running one of Trump’s coronavirus task forces.

The giveaway, primarily to real estate investors and hedge funds, is larger than the total amount in the legislation for hospitals ($100 billion) and for relief for all state and local governments ($150 billion). Worse, the bonanza for these millionaires and billionaires has little to do with the coronavirus: It lets them offset losses not just from 2020 but from 2018 and 2019, before the pandemic.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
22. Time for a Bake Sale at the Pentagon!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:12 AM
Apr 2020

It’s time for a bake sale at The Pentagon! Our tax dollars are being wasted by the Pentagon and we need that money to shift to actually using our money to help our own people here!

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
25. I'm self-employed/small business
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

And no employees--I'm it. When I checked into this, the $10K initial payment sounded great, especially since it was forgivable, and my business is in the toilet right now. Come to find out, if you don't have employees, you can only file for 25% of your other expenses (in my case, professional organizations, part of mortgage, etc.) I would get about $200.

Not worth it.

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